PDA

View Full Version : Check this out - PC Party Emailed my ISP for spamming..


r0f
December 12th, 2001, 01:05 PM
From: Eric L'Heureux [mailto:elheureux@videotron.ca]
Sent: December 11, 2001 10:16 PM
To: 'isp@videon.ca'
Subject: FW: Supreme Court of Canada Decision on US Mini-Dish Reception
to be ignored by Sheila Copps
Importance: High

To whom it may concern,

Lately, I've been flooded by people sending this email over and over.
THIS SPAM practice in unacceptable and would ask you to inform your
member.

I've included the full header of the message (extracted from outlook XP)
for your references

Thanks you

Sincerely,

Eric L'Heureux


--------

Hahah! I emailed Eric and My ISP back:

Dear Eric,

Your email address was obtained from this URL:

http://www.legal-rights.org/pclist.html

You are listed as a member of the PC Party of Canada. If this is an error, I
apologize, but I am not "spamming" you. It was simply a mistake. I suggest
contacting http://www.legal-rights.org and requesting that your address be
removed.

Thanks,

Shaun Willingham

------

Then Eric sent me this back:

Unfortunatly this is SPAMING

I've inform you ISP of your practices and he will be the last to decide.
I would suggest you to read this http://spam.abuse.net/

It was no mistake. You know what you were doing. The SITE EXPLAIN HOW to
spam and try to TRICK ISP from believing that you are spaming.

" Some ISP's will think you are SPAMMING and so you may have to put less
at a time."

" Please DO try it and get the E-mail out to many people per time. By
MANY people sending emails this WILL get the attention of these
political people. The more they receive from different parties the MORE
they will PAY ATTENTION."

Your isp as nonetheless been put aware of this and you will have to pay
the price of your "devotion" and "actions"

Sincerely

Eric L'Heureux

--------

Then I sent this back to Eric:



Not really. Spamming would be if I sent you an advertisement for enlarging
your ----- or a link to my geocities.com page with 40 --- banners you could
click on.. No wait a better one would be if I sent you a 4 paragraph letter
on how you can get rich in 4 days and not have to worry about bills for 4
years.

I sent out a letter to all the MP's and people involved with politics (which
your email address happened to be on a list for contacting such entities)
because I am worried about my country bending me over backwards and ----ing
me up the ass. John Chretien's Brother-in-law who is a partial owner of Bell
ExpressVu is on a rampage to take the right of watching Foreign programming
away from all Canadians. I was at the Supreme Court of Canada last week, and
heard both parties present their case in this matter. Sheila Copps, who is
that fat bitch we call our "Heritage Minister" wants to make it illegal for
Canadians to receive foreign programming regardless of what the Supreme
Court of Canada decides.

Doesn't that make you sick? Wouldn't you want to email your MP's as well?

>
> I've inform you ISP of your practices and he will be the last to decide.
> I would suggest you to read this http://spam.abuse.net/

What an ultimatum. You really know how to word your threats. Perhaps you
suffer from Rectal Cranietus (Head up your ass syndrome) and fail to realize
some 19-34 year old who is being paid $10/hr to read your worthless ----ing
complaint is going to be delighted when I offer to take them out for lunch
in a carefully plotted bribe to avoid the unimaginable Armageddon you wish
to punish me with, for sending you an email of which you couldn't see at the
time, due to your vision being obscured (See the Rectal Cranietus diagnosis
above)

>
> It was no mistake. You know what you were doing. The SITE EXPLAIN HOW to
> spam and try to TRICK ISP from believing that you are spaming.

Wow, now that's a new concept. Tricking the ISP into believing I am not
spamming. Kind of funny how I've been a customer of theirs for about 3 years
now, and have never had a problem with anyone, ever, until some drivel like
you received an email of which you were too lazy to read. Did it ever occur
to you that if you weren't the intended recipient, that maybe you shouldn't
have read it? Pass it on to your boss, champ.

I'll be sure to send you a copy of my new book, entitled "HOW TO TRICK YOU
ISP FROM BELIEVING YOU ARE SPAMMING - FOR DUMMIES!"

>
> " Some ISP's will think you are SPAMMING and so you may have to put less
> at a time."

Some ISP's have so many problems with their moronic uni-brow customers
sending chain-mail to 8,000 of their friends at once, they must implement
filters like this to control the chaos. I happen to run my own servers and
send out as many emails as I want. But I don't spam. Isn't spam something
you put on your sandwich?

>
> " Please DO try it and get the E-mail out to many people per time. By
> MANY people sending emails this WILL get the attention of these
> political people. The more they receive from different parties the MORE
> they will PAY ATTENTION."
>
> Your isp as nonetheless been put aware of this and you will have to pay
> the price of your "devotion" and "actions"

I'll be sure to send you first-class airline tickets to Winnipeg, so you can
watch the guillotine come swinging down with my head landing in a bucket.

I run a discussion forum with 45,000+ members. I say to them sometimes "A
conversation needs at least 2 people debating to be considered valid, 1 if
you're insane." I'll let you ramble on all night with your tongue hanging
slightly ajar from your mouth punching away one key at a time on your
keyboard like a madman trying to explain how he was violated after receiving
one email which was sent in good faith to the PC Party of Canada.

If this is how the PC party of Canada is going to act on behalf of this
issue, I think it's fair to say we're screwed as a nation... And to think
the Liberals were bad! Haha!

Shaun Willingham

-------

LOL! Then Eric sent me 75 copies of a sh|t-eating .mpg video, and this reply:

SPAM, FYI, Is UNSOLICITED MAIL. I did not ask to be on this mailing
list. SPAM is not justified by HUMBLE cause.

If you cared truly about your country you would easily know that only
email ending in GC.CA are government official email. MPs for instance .
When you send this to any other email, these are PRIVATE emails.

Your well written REBUTAL is really interesting. LMFAO. Now we can
REALLY SEE the SERIOUSNESS of your..... INTEREST.

Please accept my most SINCERE expression

-------

What a -----! I hope he doesn't work for the PC Party.. What a loser!

Shaun

simple
December 12th, 2001, 01:21 PM
you should send that email to the PC party itself... and if indeed this person is a member I believe he has commited political suicide....



Simple.

1 CRAZY CANUCK
December 12th, 2001, 01:28 PM
Save yourself the "hassle" learn to read! PLEASE.
Goto "posting" : [caption] "REMEMBER TO USE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR YOUR MP'S RIDING!"...it is that simple!"

gunsmoke2
December 12th, 2001, 02:21 PM
LOL! Then Eric sent me 75 copies of a sh|t-eating .mpg video, and this reply


Maybe he works for Bell ExpressPuke :R



GS2

To The Real King!!
December 12th, 2001, 08:57 PM
Hi Shaun,

I got about 50 of this idiots letters too including listing the owner of the legal-rights.org site (me) and making real threats. I was polite at first but after his next round I told him EXACTLY where to go.

The idiot's name is on the PC list so its up to HIM to get it off if he does not like that MANY Canadians are sending him E-mail.

Because the letter has legal-rights.org just below the name the idiot thinks they are all from legal-rights.

I have had about 5 PC Party jerks send me emails so I have forwarded them all to the PC party after admonishing them for not caring about political issues that interest the Canadian public. I eventually got pissed and said Either take your name off the PC parties E-mail list or don’t bother me. So long as you are on that list you will get lots of mail.

Politics are a public issue so that’s YOUR problem. Ask the PC party to take you off, not me.

Regards

Reg


What absolute JERK offs in the PC partyhttp://www.legal-rights.org/images/ttrk.gif
http://www.legal-rights.org/images/ttrkblack.gif

Thanks & Good Luck,

To The REAL King!!

Freedom has nothing to fear from the truth!
http://www.legal-rights.org/images/bllrbanner.gif

http://www.legal-rights.org/images/lrbanner.gif
Now open with lots of useful resources at your disposal AT:
http://www.legal-rights.org

Please REMEMBER OUR WAR HERO’S (http://www.legal-rights.org/remembrance.html) <-- Click here Please!


Please DONATE for the SUPREME COURT BATTLE (http://www.legal-rights.org/donation.html) <-- Click here Please!

Por favor dona para la BATALLA EN LA SUPREMA CORTE (http://www.legal-rights.org/donation.html)<-- Haz Click aqui!

RiseStar
December 12th, 2001, 09:18 PM
He spammed me with 50 or so copies of forwarded email earlier.

I replied that maybe he should get off his ass and do something about this outrage rather than spend time spamming me with multiple messages

r0f
December 12th, 2001, 09:21 PM
Yeah, I got that too Rise. Tell your mail server admin (or you, if you aren't a lowtec) to add this line to /etc/mail/access :

elheureux@videotron.ca 550 SPAMMER

Then type: makemap hash /etc/mail/access < /etc/mail/access

It'll add him to the mail server's spammer list, and he won't be able to email us anymore. That guy is a big jerk. He sent me about 85 emails this AM, and I received all the other spam that Rise got too. He also spammed Reg, which probably wasn't a good idea! :)

Reg, I sent you a reply I got from Joe Clark's Media Manager. They are going to bring it up in the next question period at House of Commons.

See guys, if we bitch and complain about the Beast (Sheila) things can get done. We must keep pushing this!

Shaun

TestCardStore
December 12th, 2001, 09:33 PM
Hah Hah.. Thanks rOf for sending the mail I wanted to. The moron sent me back a flood also. With people like that involved its no wonder they almost lost official party status... Typical of some of the people in politics who only care when they are being paid money and have the golden handshake to look forward to. Does anyone know this idiots association with the party?

Itchy
December 12th, 2001, 09:40 PM
I recognize why we all sent emails to the PC's and as a card carrying member I must say that I am very dissapointed, hopefully they will see the fire through this smoke and offer some assistance, but let's face it they are are about a politically powerful as the NDP's are today. I was very dissapointed to hear today that good old Stock dropped out of the leadership role for the Alliance. It is very unfortunate the Budget is on the top of everyones plate right now, it would be easier to get some attention if there was nothing else to pay attention to in the House currently. Has any one heard from the Beast or Jean Crouton as of yet, I know I have not, but am still holding out hope that this will get someones attention.

To The Real King!!
December 13th, 2001, 05:24 AM
Hi rof,

Glad to hear you have a commitment to bring it up in question period, that's exactly what we need.

We should also complain about these PC candidates (to the party authorities) who are spamming us and uninterested in the concerns of Canadians. They aught to be tossed as candidates. Look at this idiot Eric L'Heureux who has a web page at:

Sherbrooke
Mr. Éric L'Heureux
475, Papineau
Sherbrooke, QC
Tel:819.821.1159
Fax:819.562.0811
Res:819.563.0883
E-mail: elheureux@videotron.ca
http://pages.infinit.net/elheureu/

And who has a full PC candidate page with the invitation to E-mail him at the bottom of the page. He is also listed on the public PC web page at:

http://www.pcparty.ca/En/contact/Candidates-of-record.asp

Yet the moron has been spamming several of us. I will complain to the Quebec leader and have already complained to Network Solutions.

Imagine just how likely this type of idiot is to be elected when he cannot tell the difference between SPAM E-mail and genuine issues that he should be concerned about.

And the PC Party think they are going to get somewhere in Canada. However its the overall result that counts and i\I have now answered several PC's who stated that they wont talk about it because its "before the courts." How stupid these guys are in that we are not interested in comment on the case but rather the fact that COPPS did comment when she should not have. Its incredible to me that these so called "executive assistants" completely MISS the point and have to be told.

This is a great opportunity for them to make points with the public yet 99% of them miss the point completely. And these nitwits hope to be electedhttp://www.legal-rights.org/images/ttrk.gif

Sorry but my patience for their ineptitude is on the wane right now.


http://www.legal-rights.org/images/ttrkblack.gif

Thanks & Good Luck,

To The REAL King!!

Freedom has nothing to fear from the truth!
http://www.legal-rights.org/images/bllrbanner.gif

http://www.legal-rights.org/images/lrbanner.gif
Now open with lots of useful resources at your disposal AT:
http://www.legal-rights.org

Please REMEMBER OUR WAR HERO’S (http://www.legal-rights.org/remembrance.html) <-- Click here Please!


Please DONATE for the SUPREME COURT BATTLE (http://www.legal-rights.org/donation.html) <-- Click here Please!

Por favor dona para la BATALLA EN LA SUPREMA CORTE (http://www.legal-rights.org/donation.html)<-- Haz Click aqui!

Just The Facts
December 13th, 2001, 07:08 AM
I wrote him


Eric

My name is Stephen Gallagher

I am the Chairperson for the Canadian Alliance for Freedom of Information and Ideas.

I recently read your email reporting a concerned Canadian to authorities for spamming you.

He was only trying to get those WHO ARE PAID BY CANADIANS to get off of their behinds and defend
Canadians Rights against the Liberals attempts to misrepresent Legislation your party passed in its last stint as
government.

You would think that your party would have learned by now that heartless response to Canadians concern is what
decimated your party to begin with. Judging from your response you still have a lot to learn.

If you ever hope to get back into power your party will have to lose crass heartless people like yourself.

I am now going to write Joe and inform him of how poorly you have represented your party to Canadians.


Have a good day

Stephen Gallagher
admin@caffii.net

cheebs318
December 13th, 2001, 07:50 AM
I say if this idiot really wants to know what spam is, each PD member send him a complaint with a nice bandwidth-hogging mpeg attached. Politicians really don't understand they are public SERVANTS. It's time they were reminded of that.

Deejay
December 13th, 2001, 04:05 PM
After sending this email to everyone on the lists, I have been getting returned emails saying their mailboxes are full!

Good job guys!

Deejay

opetero
December 14th, 2001, 08:56 PM
Email to Joe Clark

From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, December 14, 2001 7:34:11 PM
To: clarkj@parl.gc.ca
Subject: Eric L'Heureux

Dear Sir;

Enclosed below is a copy of an email I sent to him after seeing his response to Canadians who contacted him regarding statements made by Sheila Copps.

Regardless of his stance on this issue his response of SPAMMING people who contacted him is inexcusable.

Even if you can construe these people contacting him using a letter that was also sent by a number of other people with similar concerns as SPAMMING it does not excuse his using SPAM as a response.

He should have had the brains to see this issue concerns a lot of people and acted accordingly. If he represents the attitude of your party, your party doesn't deserve any support!!!

I happen to share the concerns over censorship that are at stake in the issue over satellite reception of signals originating from outside Canada.

Are we to become another Cuba or Russia where we are restricted from hearing any opinion other than those mandated by our government?

Sheila Copps disregard of the courts of Canada as stated in the article in the Financial Post on Dec 8, 2001 is a chilling wake up call of the intent of our government that should concern every Canadian.

My family has contributed substantial funds to your party over the years. I hope it has not been wasted on many people like Eric L'Heureux.

Sincerely

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sechelt, British Columbia
_______________________________________________________
>Eric L'Heureux
>Dear sir....
>
>Your response to people expressing a legitimate concern
>regarding Sheila Copps statements are unforgiveable.
>
>You represent yourself as a public servant in training. To
>SPAM people for contacting you because they are
>concerned about issues that are of great concern to them
>is the height of insensitivity.
>
>I for one hope you are never put in a position of public
>service. To help make sure that happens I am sending this
>opinion to the leader of your party.
>
>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sechelt, British Columbia

llurkin
December 14th, 2001, 09:18 PM
"CIVIL SERVANT"

What an oxymoron. They are neither civil, nor are they servants.

They must learn that the only thing in life that feeds the hand that bites it is a HOT DOG.

Voters are not hot dogs!

1 CRAZY CANUCK
December 14th, 2001, 09:47 PM
"This is hillarious! Please! Please! Stop! My sides are hurting; and, I can't see with all the tears from laughing so hard' they're blurring my vision!"
Not P.C. Joe Clark?
He's actually rejecting letters just because he beleives it is "spam'! he! he! [Even, if they are "SPAM"; he's got something to read! LOL!!]
You'd think he'd be rejoicing in his "Illussions" that his party was gaining ground; and, he could get a real bus to hit the campaign road in; instead of a VW Beetle. - eh!
The last convention the Conservative Party held; there were only four members there. LOL! And, when it came time for someone to get the coffee, Joe was the only one left sitting at the convention table, while the others took the VW Beetle to find a Tim Horton's.
:confused: :confused: :confused:

To The Real King!!
December 16th, 2001, 10:41 PM
Hi Guys,

Here is a little post I felt was appropriate so I posted it on the http://www.legal-rights.org/newspapers/coppsfp.html


Bell EXPRESSVU broadcast the most VILE PORNO channels on North American Satellite TV

-
Now I am not particularly a prude and I could care less about PORNO but for a company to claim that they are the protectors of Canadian broadcasting in the Supreme Court of Canada, I ask, IS THEIR VILE PORNOGRAPHY WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT? After all Bell ExpressVu do broadvast the most VILE PORNOGRAPHY on North American Satellite TV, in my opinion.
-
Is that DIRTY PORNO what they call "Canadian heritage."
-
They want to create an "absolute prohibition" against Sky Angel and its Christian television broadcasting and have Canadians face one year in Jail and substantial fines for receiving “Sky Angel” yet they broadcast and SELL the most VILE PORNOGRAPHY on North American Satellite TV, bar none.
-
I guess that what Bell ExpressVu broadcast is what Shiela Copps is so fond of and why she is defying the Supreme Court of Canada in BELL EXpressVu's favor. And is this VILE PORNOGRAPHY made in Canada? Perhaps people should call the CRTC to ask them if BEV‘S PORNO is produced in Canada and is what Bell ExpressVu mean by “Canadian Broadcasting“ and if that is what Shiela Copps wants to IGNORE the “RULE OF LAW” and the Supreme Court of Canada in favor of. This is society and the Canadian Liberal Government sinking to its LOWEST LEVEL EVER, in my opinion. Here below is what SHEILA COPPS thinks below.
-
To The REAL King!!
------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
-
-
Ottawa will dog grey-market satellite firms

-
Ian Jack
Financial Post
8 December 2001
-
OTTAWA - The federal government will continue efforts to block grey-market satellite distributors from doing business in Canada regardless of a Supreme Court of Canada decision expected by next spring, sources say.
-
Ottawa is considering issuing a public statement before Christmas backing Bell ExpressVu and other licensed Canadian operators, and will change the legislation governing satellite distribution if the Supreme Court rules in favour of a small company that sells direct-to-home decoders that receive U.S. signals, sources said.
-
Sheila Copps, the Heritage Minister, told a Canadian industry group this week she will ensure the government's interpretation of the Radiocommunications Act, which is that it bans grey market satellite distribution, is upheld regardless of the court ruling.
-
She told the group she wants to issue a statement jointly with Brian Tobin, the Industry Minister, in the coming weeks.
-
Mr. Tobin would be prepared to sign off on such a statement, a source said.
-
The government's signalling of its intention is a blow to Can-Am Satellites of Maple Ridge, B.C., and other grey marketers. Can-Am has won two cases in provincial appeal courts, arguing the issue is freedom of expression and unfettered access to public airwaves. Both courts concluded it does not violate the Act, as written, to sell decoders in Canada.
-
<ijack@nationalpost.com>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Opinion.
-
Well Mr. Tobin are you a fan of this VILE PORNO too sir? Do you REALLY agree?
It looks like the Government and even Ministers such as Shiela Copps do not consider the Supreme Court of Canada as important since she is saying she will uphold the governments (possibly wrongful interpretation of the RC Act) regardless of the Supreme Court of Canada’s ruling. This basically means that even if the government is WRONG, she will uphold the wrongful law, if it is.
-
I am not sure how she will do this since our society is built on the "rule of law" and this seems to indicate that she will NOT go along with that. This is a very interesting position for a Government Minister to take and may well call for a General Election to be held since the Government openly states it will IGNORE the Judicial branch. Ms. Copps should RESIGN over this OUTRAGEOUS stance.
-
So now that Can-Am has spent a fortune of money, fighting its way through three levels of court from the B.C. Superior court, to the B.C. Appeals court and now to the Supreme Court of Canada, this means nothing to Ms. Copps who will STILL deprive them of their lawful right no matter what the Supreme Court of Canada decides. She will be backing Bell ExpressVu and their VILE PORNO broadcasting, no matter what the court says.
-
In other countries, when this attitude is prevalent in a backwards society such as Rhodesia, people yell that BRIBES and GRAFT have been paid. While I would not say that in Canada, I truly wonder "could this be about playing golf with Tiger Woods?" :)
-
What’s you stance on the PORNO’s Mr. Prime Minister; we KNOW you dont mind Bell ExpressVu’s parent BCE paying dollars for you to GOLF with Tiger?
-
What is it that would cause a Government Minister to behave in this manner which totally disrespects our Supreme Court, one of the bastions of Democracy in Canada? Is it going to be a trend of this Liberal Government to IGNORE our Supreme Court. If so then I think citizens have a lot to be worried about. In a DEMOCRACY it is often the COURTS that are the ONLY defenders of the CITIZEN and his RIGHTS against the GOVERNMENT. This is very worrisome and negative.

I sure hope she sees ithttp://www.legal-rights.org/images/ttrk.gif
http://www.legal-rights.org/images/ttrkhappyday.gif

Thanks & Good Luck,

To The REAL King!!

Freedom has nothing to fear from the truth!
http://www.legal-rights.org/images/bllrbanner.gif

http://www.legal-rights.org/images/lrbanner.gif
Now open with lots of useful resources at your disposal AT:
http://www.legal-rights.org

Please REMEMBER OUR WAR HERO’S (http://www.legal-rights.org/remembrance.html) <-- Click here Please!


Please DONATE for the SUPREME COURT BATTLE (http://www.legal-rights.org/donation.html) <-- Click here Please!

Por favor dona para la BATALLA EN LA SUPREMA CORTE (http://www.legal-rights.org/donation.html)<-- Haz Click aqui!