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suks2bu
May 4th, 2002, 10:22 AM
Check out these 2 links dealing with bell and starchoice in the US,
Wonder if this will surface up in court somehow and blow back into their own faces!!!!!

http://www.canadatotwincities.com/satellite.html

http://www.global-cm.net/CAN/canadiansolution.html

GhostDog
May 4th, 2002, 10:33 AM
I'm pretty sure you can subscribe legally to these systems in the US. As mentioned in a thread here by GS2, only Canada and Cuba bar foreign broadcasting. Hacking the systems within the US I believe is illegal, here is a link to the US law that is fairly broad that prohibits hacking of any system, be it lawful distributor or not.
http://www.tscm.com/USC18_119.html

Although, I do remember a debate here a while back about this and the consensus was that nobody is sure if you can hack Canadian satellites within the US legally.

However, the main point as TTRK has been saying is the legal reception of signals (ie. subscribing to foreign services), and that is clearly legal to do within the US and even within China, Russia, or even Iraq. However, not within Canada.

gunsmoke2
May 5th, 2002, 04:28 PM
They don't have FCC approval to broadcast into the US.


GS2

suks2bu
May 5th, 2002, 04:55 PM
Thanks GS2,
I didn't think they had licensing to do that out there!!!!
I just hope this surfaces in court!!!! :gg

ekati
May 5th, 2002, 07:09 PM
www.kusat.com will set up people south of the border aswell if you by a system from them. Not sure if "they" do it or if they get someone else to do it for them.

davidnb
May 5th, 2002, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by ekati
www.kusat.com will set up people south of the border aswell if you by a system from them. Not sure if "they" do it or if they get someone else to do it for them.
I don't think we are supsoed to post links. I would edit it out if I were you.

To The Real King!!
May 5th, 2002, 09:47 PM
Hi Guys,

No links are disallowed to sites that sell DSS or Echo equipment but links that illustrate a point like these ones are OK. If anyone complains in the legal -rights posts just say To The REAL King!! approved it. But please just use good taste and judgement in the choice of links.

Just so everyone knows I have sent Mr. Wagman, our Ontario lawyer some 7 reverse grey market sites because he is interested in finding a way to present this against BEV in court. GS2 also sent him others and we are doing everything possible to try to show up that these guys do this and that they benefit KNOWINGLY from Canadian grey marketing too. For instance DTV has cancelled DirecTV® dealers who operate in Canada (so they stop paying commissions) but have NOT turned off a single one of their customers because they pay with a Canadian credit card. So if they shut down the dealer, why do they NOT shut down the clients.

This will come out in court showing that they lied to the Supreme court in what their affidavits said. But for some strange reason they did NOT allow us to cross examine them on their lying affidavits.

Hum, I wonder why? We have been treated very unfairly by this court and it is now obvious as to WHY.

Can we get even. Well the only way is to
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To The Real King!!
May 5th, 2002, 09:48 PM
Hi Guys,

No links are disallowed to sites that sell DSS or Echo equipment but links that illustrate a point like these ones are OK. If anyone complains in the legal -rights posts just say To The REAL King!! approved it. But please just use good taste and judgement in the choice of links.

Just so everyone knows I have sent Mr. Wagman, our Ontario lawyer some 7 reverse grey market sites because he is interested in finding a way to present this against BEV in court. GS2 also sent him others and we are doing everything possible to try to show up that these guys do this and that they benefit KNOWINGLY from Canadian grey marketing too. For instance DTV has cancelled DirecTV® dealers who operate in Canada (so they stop paying commissions) but have NOT turned off a single one of their customers because they pay with a Canadian credit card. So if they shut down the dealer, why do they NOT shut down the clients.

This will come out in court showing that they lied to the Supreme court in what their affidavits said. But for some strange reason they did NOT allow us to cross examine them on their lying affidavits.

Hum, I wonder why? We have been treated very unfairly by this court and it is now obvious as to WHY.

Can we get even. Well the only way is to
Please DONATE for the SUPREME COURT ANTI-CENSORSHIP BATTLE (http://www.legal-rights.org/donation.html)
And we will get it before the lower courts who DO play fairhttp://www.legal-rights.org/images/ttrk.gif

This time we are going to plead our cases in both the courts AND the PUBLIC newspapers and they wont get away with keeping the public misinformed of what is happening. This should make a difference.
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Thanks & Good Luck,

To The REAL King!!

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Now open with lots of useful resources at your disposal AT:
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Please DONATE for the SUPREME COURT CENSORSHIP BATTLE (http://www.legal-rights.org/donation.html) <-- Click here Please!

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suks2bu
May 6th, 2002, 08:24 PM
TTRK and GS2,
Great to see the lawer get those reverse grey market sites to bring up in court!
Man i wish i could see the faces of the people from bell and starchoice when this comes up in court!!!
:gg

suks2bu
May 6th, 2002, 09:28 PM
here's some more info to read,ttrk or gs2 you can pass this on to the lawyer as well if you havn't already done so!!

http://www.legal-rights.org/bevreverse.html