Cape Breton Bust from last Year. Cards must go back to Directv

[sirjohna]

http://www.canada.com/sydney/story.asp?id=%7B4947296A-C48B-4455-896D-E774581894D6%7D

Check this out, the judge told him the cards must be sent back.

[sirjohna]

I read some more "A police witnesses said it is not illegal to bring a satellite system from the U.S. into Canada, so long as duty was paid, nor is it illegal for individuals to sell systems to one another."

So the police do see a big difference between the sub customers and the testers.

Very interesting, eh.

[maird57]

If you can bring in satellite systems then why is it illegal to have a card in your possesion. Some systems come with cards.

[CVU]

From the Cape Breton story: "Chronis is scheduled back in court July 17 for Charter arguments and, pending the outcome of those arguments, for trial on Oct. 21."

Hope someone able to report back on this July 17th.

[gunsmoke2]

I bid on 12 DTV access cards from the Government of Canada Crown asset website and won the bid on them...the Canadian Government did not send them back to DTV..


If you read this billy ? you might want to contact me..



GS2

[ELF-CO]

gunsmoke, which asset website were you on? (Since they have several, depending on area)

[gunsmoke2]

Didn't know they had more than one... I picked them up at the Distribution center in Missassauga, Ontario. They were seized by Customs at Windsor and I have the original paper showing who shipped it and who was to receive them.. they had two lots of access cards to bid on at the time..



GS2

[ELF-CO]

Yes, they have one (or more) per province... as many items are not worth shipping to a central location. (Although I have never seen listings on the atlantic provinces.) The Missassauga one would be the best for that kind of stuff, since so many were seized at the border crossings in Windsor, Sarnia and Niagara.

Could I ask you what the URL is for the one you were at? (If you have it handy. You could PM it to me if you prefer.)

[gunsmoke2]

This is the URL I used to search for the items..



http://crownassets.pwgsc.gc.ca/text/home-e.htm




GS2

[sirjohna]

Did anyone get an update from the July 17th court date?

I have not seen any news about it and can not find anything online.

[CVU]

If the Judge in the Cape Breton Charter challenge decides not to allow the challenge to proceed - and nothing has been posted on that case, and it is now a day after - does this mean other Charter challenges will be not heard....like the Dean M Love one on the 29th, or any subsequent ones? And would this not mean The Charter result we all hope for will not come about?

[To The Real King!!]

Hi CVU,

No not at all. Firstly Dean Love has already made his arguments and we are awaiting a DECISION from Judge Rubin on the 29th of July.

And a judge has no choice but to hear charter arguments but they are usually heard at the beginning of a trial.

But in my humble opinion, apart from the charter arguments, the ruling the judge made in this case is tantamount to finding him guilty but without the trial. If he is to be tried in October, why would the judge be in such a hurry to return the cards when they trial could show they were properly his. And that he may , in fact, NOT have broken the law.

That is what a trial is all about, to determine if a defendant had broken the law. And NO JUDGE would return property to some third party BEFORE he has determined if there is GUILT in the case.

This screws him and his chances are ZERO at trial if he does NOT appeal this ruling. His best move by FAR is to appeal this judges ruling and try not to go to trial BEFORE that appeal is determined arguing that it gives the appearance of GUILT, without the defendant having his day in court. This is BLOODY important and it should be done. And then, if this judge is assigned to him for a trial judge he needs to get that changed at all costs.

Remember that NOVA SCOTIA is where Mr. Justice Haliburton made a very important ruling in the Stan Leblanc case so the state of jurisprudence is very much in his favor.

And what if he argues a charter 8 right against illegal search and seizure and the judge GRANTS that it was illegal and the proper remedy is to return all seized material to the defendant and rule that it never be used against him in any prosecution because the search and seizure was illegal. How the HELL will he return cards to the defendant that have already been returned to NDS.

This judge is jumping the GUN here and Billy does NOT seem to have a lawyer that understands the law. This is an outrage but why the hell is he NOT talking to Alan Gold or Ian Angus or someone who KNOWS what this is all about. It seems to me he is cooking himself BEFORE it gets to trial and is diminishing his chances down to zero. If someone here KNOWS BILLY CHRONUS, please print this out and ask him if he has considered these scenarios and if he is appealing something that has virtually found him guilty WITHOUT a trial. There is some urgency to this as well since he has only 30 days to file and appeal and I see no evidence of this in the cards.

This started BAD but there is still lots of room to appeal it and turn it around, especially since this is a bad judgement and not in conformity with many others where the defendant was deemed to OWN the cards. Anyhow I have said my peice but it does tend to open up a lot of questions to which we have no answers.http://www.legal-rights.org/images/ttrk.gif

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