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treblat
July 19th, 2002, 04:22 AM
I got my 1st letter this week and have been thinking about settling.
But my question is. Has anyone ever tried to contact a web site where they have purchased hardware and asked to be taken off of their database and have all records remove? because now I am affraid to buy anything on the web. It might Get back to Dave.
Technazz
July 19th, 2002, 12:24 PM
You dont have to keep personal information of sales for tax records. Think of a convienience store. Do they keep personal information for sales?
Tzz
morgana
July 19th, 2002, 01:11 PM
Technaz
Yes you are correct, and that is exactly how and what I did. I am also going to point out, I have been fighting Revenue Canada now for 3 years and it will be probably another 2 years before I can get it to court.
It does not matter if you are right or wrong with Revenue Canada. There you are guilty if they think so, and you must prove them wrong. So yes while in the end you will win(if you call spending $40,000 on accountant and legal fees winning), it is not such an easy path to hoe. Beleive it from some one who is in the thick of it. This will cause much worry and frustration for over 5 years before it has run full course. If I was sentenced for murder I would be paroled in less time. There is no justice in the tax system period.
All of this because I paid my taxes as legally obliged to do. Many others who never declared a nickel are smiling for now, but I will not take any bets on whether they will for long.
To The Real King!!
July 20th, 2002, 08:07 AM
Hi Folks,
People who have bought something from a DSS dealer should UNDERSTAND that they WILL be getting one of these onerous letters. While they CANNOT stop that from happening, there is MUCH they can do to prepare for the enivitable day when they will get it. And it may be important for people to know that having a SUB will NOT help them and in fact in almost all cases WILL HARM THEM FURTHER.
Many who would rather NOT post the name of their lawyer, are writing me at ttrk@legal-rights.org and offering their lawyers name. CO-OPERATION like this can be helpful to everyone INCLUDING the person sending it. The MORE the lawyers know about this and the more experience they have, the better.
Someone wrote me and there is a very important factor (A SUB) that I realize could be important So here is a post I made eleswhere that could be IMPORTANT TO YOU.
I have been getting a lot of E-Mail from people who have no DirecTV® system and are getting their accusatory love letters demanding money. Its VERY CLEAR to me that if you have no DirecTV® system today and /or if you have a Dish Network system (even with a RCA dish because you swapped) then it will be exceedingly difficult for them to be able to win in a court and prove that you stole their signal (in the PAST).
I have no objection at all for people who want to settle and this FACT should even be helpful for a settlement. On this Mr. Zakarian can help and is almost SURE to negotiate a better deal if you want to settle and buy peace or even if you did steal. Those people SHOULD settle since they cannot win in court.
If you discontinued your DirecTV® system some time ago and then later changed it for a Dish system, how can you be stealing DTV's signal. I would think that without an admission its VERY difficult to prove you stole something without their system. And they have no proof of you having sold anything because they have a simple invoice. If you don't have their system you would have to have assisted someone ELSE but how likely is that if YOU don't have their System?
Even if you bought a ISO-7816 Programmer or unlooper (they are virtually the same as to what they do) and you used it to read anything out of curiosity, that is NOT illegal. The ONLY use that is illegal and concerns the letter is if you use this unlooper or programmer to STEAL THE DirecTV® SIGNAL since they are sending the letters. If you have a DISH system or NO SYSTEM it will be almost impossible for them to prove that usage.
The people who are in the WORST POSITION are people who subscribe to DirecTV® so if you have not received this letter yet then you can take steps to make sure to PROTECT yourself that they can not win against you when this onerous letter comes. And it probably will.
There is no problem with having a DISH NETWORK system but it can go a long way toward circumstantially proving that you could NOT steal the DirecTV® signal. And remember all they have is an invoice which IS totally circumstantial evidence, NOT proof of any wrongdoing.
People can NOT undo having bought something from a DSS vendor if they did, but there is a LOT they can do to prepare for the inevitable day when the letter comes. Just because you now have a DISH system does not mean you did anything wrong with that. I highly DOUBT that DISH will EVER send out this type of threatening letter, they seem more confident in the function of their system and its just not their business style to hammer people this way without actually knowing if anyone is guilty.
So I imagine that most people who know they made a purchase have already taken steps to be sure they are in the right position whenever the letter comes. Unfortunately those who have already received the letter and who have a DirecTV® sub can not do much other than FIGHT this onerous thing if they did noting wrong. But those with a DISH system or NO SYSTEM will certainly be in a much BETTER position, than anyone who owns a DirecTV® system.
Isn't it amazing how this company is HARMING THEMSELVES by thanking their own customers for their business by this outrageous letter. I have been told by HUNDREDS that they are cancelling immediately. They seem like the Buddhist priests who "SELF IMMOLATE" since WHY would anyone want a DirecTV® system when it can cause you SO MUCH GRIEF. And anyone who has one or HAD one sure probably does NOT anymore, knowing this.http://www.legal-rights.org/images/ttrk.gif
Talk about committing suicide, geeezzzcchhhh!!!!
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