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Bone Daddy
July 31st, 2002, 01:34 PM
If the only real problem we feel here is weather games should be allowed in the BS forum then we have no problems...I dare you to look into the American and canadian Freedom Forums....There are some real things happening under our noses..just look thru TTRK's postings..He's not crazy or being overdramatic..Members are being harrassed to death by DTV..These aren't just faceless blips on a screen, they're our sisters and brothers, fathers, family...Dave is politically and finacially killing us with baseless lawsuits and threats of lawsuits...No evidence given or burdon of proof..People are strongarmed into signing consent of wrongdoing papers that in our country open them up to further litigation after the fact!!!!It would be a crime in any other country and a travesty here...
For God's sake they bought Canada!! They came in and invaded with the only weapon for which there is no defense....MONEY...No weapons of mass destruction, tanks ,smart bombs...They left no ruins in their wake, only the human misery masked in market share...We should be ashamed!!!

bandit73
July 31st, 2002, 01:42 PM
YUP I just came from that forum ! I'm still waiting for my Ball's to drop back outa my stomach ! That read had a sphincter factor of 10 !
Dtv is one of the Biggest terrorist organizations out there !
And The way they went after the canadian goverment Prove's how ruthless they are !

Always remember Money Talk ! Money Make the rules ! Money writes the laws !

Bone Daddy
July 31st, 2002, 02:23 PM
In olden times people would bond together to fight a common foe..We have ours (DTV)I guess no one fears DTV, well I'll give you my version of scared straight..
Some say it's only dealers getting hammered, but I beg to differ...Joe Smith breaks his family's savings to pay $3500 and is branded a thief the rest of his life...Forced to knuckle under the weight of a prohibitively expensive court battle.. This is wholly Unamerican and wholly uncanadian...We sit back and watch as others are hung out to dry while we nest in the shadows praying our rock is never kicked over..I guarentee you won't like what the light shows you..
Today freedom is petaled in dollars by large multi-national corporations and we were bought and sold a long time ago..I ask you what is the price for human expression?????
Ask if I'm mad? Hell yes I'm mad; mad at myself for ignoring the pain that is all around us..Put your ear to the wind and you can almost hear libertys death throughs...Don't laugh it starts small, almost inperceptable, gains acceptance, then apathy...
I guess I posted in the wrong forum..Because there is NO BS in this thread....

virgned27
July 31st, 2002, 03:55 PM
You want to know the sad this is our canadian government will take the money and run with it.:mad:

V27

Psycho99
July 31st, 2002, 05:25 PM
Well, i make it a point to look in there everyday...Dave is coercing folks into confession, even if they cannot prove it....$h!t, if it were left up to Dave, he'd start spelling America with a K....., and place a tiny spy cam on each and every IRD....Big Brother is watching you :eek:

~~The Psycho

Bone Daddy
July 31st, 2002, 05:31 PM
61 views and 3 replies>>>>>>Pathetic But thanks to my friends with the balls to reply...You guys are great..

Psycho99
July 31st, 2002, 05:34 PM
61 views and 3 replies>>>>>>Pathetic


IT SURE IS, BONES.....:(

~~The Psycho

Bone Daddy
July 31st, 2002, 05:44 PM
I hate to think only my friends would reply because they know me..What set me off was a post in the newbie forum yesterday..This poor guy was scared sh!tless..He received a letter and his lawyer spilled the beans to DTV's lawyers about his possition of an iso programmer..Now he's screwed..the posts go on for miles in the freedoms forums..Everyone here should check the freedom forums to cover their butts!!!

xyle
July 31st, 2002, 06:06 PM
Well I must say it makes me wonder how much the government will let dave make his own rules. Dave has the $$$$ and the government is greedy....that makes for one bad combo!

X

Psycho99
July 31st, 2002, 06:12 PM
I hate to think only my friends would reply because they know me..What set me off was a post in the newbie forum yesterday..This poor guy was scared sh!tless..He received a letter and his lawyer spilled the beans to DTV's lawyers about his possition of an iso programmer..Now he's screwed..the posts go on for miles in the freedoms forums..Everyone here should check the freedom forums to cover their butts!!!

...NOT THE CASE BONES....replying just cause it was you who started the thread, that is....i read that post yesterday, and was a little upset about the lawyer tellin' 'em that....I wuz at werk and couldn't respond right away...when i did have time, i had fergot about it...I really feel fer the dude....someone should find out who the idiot who passed his Bar exam is....

~~The Psycho

To The Real King!!
July 31st, 2002, 06:24 PM
Hi Guys,

There is "economic terrorism" that is going on that is worse than Al-Quida and its affecting almost everyone in this community. And I am sure they read these forums and see that people are scared and love it.

People need to cancel subs and return their receiver to where they bought it from and tell Best Buy or whomever what kind of terrorism they have got people mised up with by selling these units. If enough people make a fuss with the vendors and there are enough cancellations, then perhaps something will happen. But right now its a crying shame.

They lose 3K off their evaluation for each sub that cancells so people should make it a VOW to have at least 5 others cancel and go to the competition to make sure that this stops. THe only way to fight econimic terrorism is to use the same tactics, I am told.http://www.legal-rights.org/images/ttrk.gif

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Thanks & Good Luck,
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To The REAL King!!

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Bone Daddy
July 31st, 2002, 06:51 PM
To The Real King for posting on my thread..It is an honor to have you here...What you do is soo unappreciated by the general masses..And Psycho, xyle, Bandit73 you guys are the best..Be informed , it's your best defense...Love to all ..BoneDaddy

blcjet
July 31st, 2002, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by To The Real King!!
Hi Guys,

There is "economic terrorism" that is going on that is worse than Al-Quida and its affecting almost everyone in this community. And I am sure they read these forums and see that people are scared and love it.

People need to cancel subs and return their receiver to where they bought it from and tell Best Buy or whomever what kind of terrorism they have got people mised up with by selling these units. If enough people make a fuss with the vendors and there are enough cancellations, then perhaps something will happen. But right now its a crying shame.

They lose 3K off their evaluation for each sub that cancells so people should make it a VOW to have at least 5 others cancel and go to the competition to make sure that this stops. THe only way to fight econimic terrorism is to use the same tactics, I am told.http://www.legal-rights.org/images/ttrk.gif

http://www.legal-rights.org/images/ttrkblack.gif

Thanks & Good Luck,
http://www.legal-rights.org/images/rotate_rib.gif
To The REAL King!!

Freedom has nothing to fear from the truth!
http://www.legal-rights.org/images/satelliterights.gif
http://www.legal-rights.org/images/freedomblack.gif

Please REMEMBER OUR WAR HERO’S (http://www.legal-rights.org/remembrance.html) <-- Click here Please!


Please DONATE for the SUPREME COURT CENSORSHIP BATTLE (http://www.legal-rights.org/donation.html) <-- Click here Please!

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Well, I can concur with TTRK here 110%.....This is why he has been fighting for so long, and why some of us are trying to help him and the others involved! This is not a silly or small insignifigant battle, but something that can effect all those who are involved here. After the last supreme court ruling, how many websites shut down? How many companies quit? There were significant numbers that did, and that is when we still have the ability to appeal the decision based on charter issues......

Now, what happens if we loose again.....You can bet the face of this will change dramatically, and the only people we can truely blame our ourselves for not becoming involved with this.

virgned27
July 31st, 2002, 08:23 PM
Well, I can concur with TTRK here 110%.....This is why he has been fighting for so long, and why some of us are trying to help him and the others involved! This is not a silly or small insignifigant battle, but something that can effect all those who are involved here. After the last supreme court ruling, how many websites shut down? How many companies quit? There were significant numbers that did, and that is when we still have the ability to appeal the decision based on charter issues......

A-men.

You my friend are the best min/mod i've ever met. Keep up the good work;)

V27

P.S. bonedaddy this is one of the best threads ive read in along time you even woke up TTRK...LOL

take care all

Bone Daddy
July 31st, 2002, 08:34 PM
To get the guy outta his slumber...And thank you blcjet again I am humbled you would grace this thread with your presence..Thanx Virgned27..10% response and I'm on here multiple times...as are others..Please read the freedoms forums it's important...

Punky
July 31st, 2002, 10:54 PM
I also read that post yesterday. However, I was really interested in how the lawyer phrased it. If the lawyer stated that "yea, my client has a programmer" or "yea, my client has a programmer and uses it to hack DTV". To me there is a big difference. The first statement does not mean that the guy was using it for anything illegal, he just has one and it is up to DTV to find evidence that he is using it for stealing signal. Personally, if I was the guy, I would fight it. If the lawyer said the second statement, I would sue the stupid lawyer. What a dumba**!

And Bone Daddy, you are right. Everyone needs to read that forum everyday. It can happen to any one of us.

Take care.

bandit73
July 31st, 2002, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by Bone Daddy
To The Real King for posting on my thread..It is an honor to have you here...What you do is soo unappreciated by the general masses..And Psycho, xyle, Bandit73 you guys are the best..Be informed , it's your best defense...Love to all ..BoneDaddy


No Problem Bone Daddy !

I read in that forum almost everyday ! And I always leave it with that sick feeling right in the pit of my stomach ! TTRK is right and I will be the first to say that I have and have encouraged others to cancel there sub's (cable ain't so bad yeah right) and I try very hard not to purchase ANY GM products(That's hard cause GM makes alot of things) But some how Dtv has to be shied off and I think cancelling subs is a step in the right direction !

TheJesteR
July 31st, 2002, 11:59 PM
As a canadian, I have to say i feel This kind of pain everyday,..

The whole Bell-Vu/supreme court thing makes me sick, I dont matter who it is, a private citizen or a major corperation, Once somone can buy off the courts, Its all over.

Theres only one way to make these comapnys back down, Kill them.
Wait a moment....There is Method to my madness. I feel everyone has to deside why they are here, Its been said before, I'l say it again..
Are you here to
A. Rob, Plunder and kill major corperations that are sleeping with the government?.
B. Watch free tv so you can see your rights fade away little by little every night on the news.

I dont think there is any middle ground here, Im mean the lines have been drawn in the sand. What side are you standing on?.

Canada has been going to $h1t, The corruption in our government is unmatched, There are dictatorships who are more open with their citizens about the whys and hows of their policy, Now the rcmp is going to be the Sat police, Whos paying for this?, Bell?.. No i am, with my taxes..
We all know how to kill Dave forever.. ASIC hack..

Remeber all they Cyber punk thrillers where information is the more inportant and valuble than anything?.. We are seeing that SCI-Fi come true now.. Whats worse, is that the thought police read this and other forums every day.
Sad but true.. Thats my rant, Useless to say but all of its true. .
Jest

2gapa
August 1st, 2002, 07:42 AM
Originally posted by Bone Daddy
To get the guy outta his slumber...And thank you blcjet again I am humbled you would grace this thread with your presence..Thanx Virgned27..10% response and I'm on here multiple times...as are others..Please read the freedoms forums it's important...

hmmm...Read now! Once a letter shows up from Dave's flunky, it's too late.

Bone Daddy
August 27th, 2002, 09:04 PM
Has gotten another of our friends..i won't say his name but he's near and dear to all of us..I brought this thread back up to remind all that freedom is precious..be very careful big brother is watching!!!

Sgt_Stedenko
August 28th, 2002, 11:30 AM
I know who you're talking about. :( :( :(

elk32170
August 28th, 2002, 01:01 PM
I don't know who it is, but a good friend of mine here is facing the letter too. We all have to be careful.

Nice customer relations, Dave.

.elk

Sgt_Stedenko
August 28th, 2002, 01:02 PM
I think we're all talking about the same person.

bandit73
February 21st, 2003, 03:50 AM
This Thread needs to go to the top again since it seems that alot of people have gotten that FN letter !!
"read the legal rights forum and be on guard and be educated !"

phoztech
February 21st, 2003, 09:12 AM
i follow the legal forums everyday..

alot of people are choosing to fight DTV. and they should there are a couple of classactions from what i understand that both people that have not settled and those who have allready settled can participate in.

It is scary I am honestly expecting a letter at somepoint even though my legitimate purchase was made from electronics company that has yet to be "busted"...

what is really scary is I have seen people mention the only thing they bought was a power adapter or lnb or somesuch from a busted dealer and they are getting the letter.

one fellow has also gottne 2 seperate letters one after he allready settled, this makes it clear tht Dave is haphazardly attacking people without proper proof...
it also appears that most people that hire a lawyer get off and or dave does not pursue it any further.