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Shayla
August 2nd, 2002, 05:59 PM
I have tried the search and I know I have come accross the name of dealers who were raided, but now I can't find a specific list. I have recieved the famed letter due to whiteviper purchase but am wondering about arrowsat and dssbyte. Have they been raided am I too expect more harrassment If records show additional equipment purchases from these dealers?

JD490
August 2nd, 2002, 06:11 PM
http://www.legal-rights.org/DTV/dtvdocketpage.html I believe is the page you want. If you want to settle with them get an attorney to make sure they cant come back at you again with a good agreement. This should cover you for anything they might dig up between then and the date of the agreement. If you plan to ignore it or fight in court then I would still have your attorney ask them what documents they have.

Shayla
August 2nd, 2002, 06:58 PM
Thanks for advice My attourney has already sent a letter out stating extortion and how outrages there claims are and ended in his desire to bring it to the attourney generals attention should such harrassment continue. I of course expect from reading to recieve another letter, my husband wants to fight but with my name being on the letter I am more weary. In any case I am expecting the worst I guess.

thegeek50
August 3rd, 2002, 11:52 AM
Vector Technologies
Dss-stuff
Dss hang out
White Viper Technologies
DSS-Pro
J Neil
Shutt Industrys
shanty.com
jt-tek.com
Canadian Security & Technology
Meadco
Intertek
EQ STUFF INC
USA Card Cleaners
HU-Cards express
Axxess Card
Starlight Satellite
MEGA ELECTRONICS INC
R & M Electronics,
Magic Communications.
USAISO.COM
DSL.com
Queue Systems
H3-Electronics
Fulfillment Plus

Arlodawg
August 4th, 2002, 05:53 AM
In some of the cases, directv filed for dismissal after they got an injuction agaisnt the company to stop doing business. Dose this mean there was a sealed agreement between the two parties that wasn't in the court docket or not enough evidence to pursue the case.
I'm not a attorney, but my take on it is, nobody was found guilty if the charges where dismissed by directv.:R

mikecooler
August 4th, 2002, 09:54 PM
were all of this dealers located in US?

gdmanry
August 5th, 2002, 02:44 PM
It's interesting that with this many dealers being busted, and with so many purchases (I would think), that we're not getting hundreds of emails a day regarding letters. I wonder what criteria they're using to send letters, and if there is any correlating time frame between purchase and letter.

Also, has anyone actually been taken to court yet? I have not heard of a single person, other than dealers, or people who are selling cards, programming, etc. Have they taken a "regular joe" to court yet?

Just curious...see ya!

Arlodawg
August 5th, 2002, 06:50 PM
Hey,thepoet
Your civil 101 was what I was looking for.:cool:
If it never went to trail and was dissmissed, the company was not found guilty of doing anything wrong. So, how could some who purchased something from that company who was not found guilty be guilty of doing something wrong?

climateau
August 7th, 2002, 12:10 AM
Well I know it is a stretch but what about Canadian companies that sell all the stuff to grow pot, or even Magic Mushroom syringes,
both are completely legal, companies are fine, but the customer is not fine if they purchased said goods for an illegal purpose.

The same problem in the states that many companies are selling "cleaning sollutions" and different legal chemicals that are the precursors to other illegal drugs. (Mix bottle A with bottle B and boil for 1 hour... you end up with Illegal drug C)

Is is possible the companies are completely legal if they sell programmers, but not the cards or sell both programmers and cards but not the 3ms that need to be present to be illegal?

(dont know)

(seems to be my favorite line as of late)

Please be kind, Not looking to get flamed, just looking for similarity to other cases/hobbies that have come up in the legal arena as of late. (some of the above examples may be exagerations to apply to a programmer and card... but there are many similarities)

Clim

captbillfl
August 7th, 2002, 03:17 PM
Yes there are filed Federal actions, a NUMBER of them and growing, see other posts and lists on this board. A civil law suit is based upon claims for relief or compensation for some harm or loss. When settled prior to a judicial decision no public record of the outcome is made every case/action is looked at as unique, even if based on similar claims. A criminal action is based on charges of violation of some criminal statute. I wonder is involving a high law enforcement official, ie: Attorney General a wise move with even the most remote possibility of potential criminal offense? When a settlement with Dave is made I am sure Dave’s side includes a strong non-discloser clause, he can tell the world but you cannot. That may be why there are NO postings about the details of MANY settled cases. The laws used by Dave do not seem to be on the side of the hobbyist look at the rulings in the ALCU case. Good luck to all of you that have “letter” problems.