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MercurE1
August 18th, 2002, 04:05 PM
I got this letter in my email box, and thought it kinda summed up how a lot of people feel

The following is abridged from a speech delivered at Hillsdale's
All-College
> Spring Convocation, held at the College Baptist Church, on April 4, 2002.
>
> Here in this quiet, peaceful corner of Michigan, you might not have a
sense
> of your importance in the world. I come from a community that has the
> opposite problem. Because it is so big and so powerful, so great and so
> well-known, it has an exaggerated view of its significance. That community
> is Hollywood. Not Hollywood, the town. Not much Show Business actually
goes
> on there. Most of the studios are spread around other Southern California
> communities, like Culver City or Burbank. But I mean Hollywood, the
> Entertainment Mecca -- which includes parts of Southern California and New
> York City, and, because news has become entertainment, some of Washington,
> D.C., as well.
> While I work in Hollywood, I live elsewhere. My family and I live in a
quiet
> suburb of Annapolis, Maryland. The kids go to school there. They live near
> their grandparents -- my in-laws -- and most of my neighbors care very
> little about overnight ratings, box office grosses and sweeps weeks. We
> don't hate L.A. In fact, we like it, and we spend a great deal of time
> there. But I happen to have a job that allows me a great deal of
> flexibility, and that gives me the luxury of living a real life in
addition
> to my fake one.
>
> You see, one of the dangers of my business is that it has the potential to
> fill you with a distorted view of life and of your importance in it. And
> it's understandable in a way. If you are part of a successful enterprise,
> people treat you very well. They send limos for you. They tiptoe around
you.
> They pretend that the most outlandish or inane things you might say are
> important and quotable. Drugs? Adultery? Alcoholism? Deviant behavior?
Don't
> worry. You go on Oprah-you cry-people call you heroic for being so
open-and
> your career soars to new heights.
>
> You're treated importantly, so you must be important. Suddenly your views
> are not just your own private opinions; they become part of the public
> record. They quote you on Entertainment Tonight and in People magazine.
You
> can endorse a candidate, fight for a cause, call people names -- it's
pretty
> heady stuff. The world waits breathlessly for your next pronouncement.
>
> Rosie O'Donnell -- a daytime talk show host -- goes public with her ---ual
> preference, and she is lauded as brave. What exactly is brave about that?
> First of all, who cares? And what's brave about getting the chance to be
> interviewed by ABC and landing on magazine covers? I characterize it as
> bravery-as-a-career-move.
>
> I don't mean to pick on Ms. O'Donnell, but it's just another example of
the
> self-importance that Show Business can bestow on you -- the idea that your
> ---ual preference matters to anyone other than your immediate family and
> your partner, or partners, seems rather silly to me.
>
> Speaking of silly, Alec Baldwin, an actor, recently compared the election
of
> George W. Bush to the terrorist attacks of last September. This is the
same
> Baldwin brother who promised to leave the country if Bush were elected.
> Sadly, he reneged on that one. Baldwin also went on Conan O'Brien's
> late-night show during the Clinton impeachment to say that Illinois
> Republican Congressman Henry Hyde should be shot -- along with his family.
>
> Do remarks like that get you chastised in Hollywood? Ostracized?
> Marginalized? No, it's Alec Baldwin. He's an actor. He's in Show Business.
> He's important.
>
> The silliness and outrageousness that emanates from Hollywood comes from
> non-performers as well. Ted Turner once mocked his employees who had ashes
> on their foreheads for Ash Wednesday as "Jesus Freaks." Mr. Turner, a
> self-proclaimed protector of human rights, apparently has his limits.
>
> Filmmaker Rob Reiner -- a cofounder of Castle Rock Entertainment -- is
> reportedly upset by what he sees in many films these days, and he plans to
> do something about it. In fact, he's so upset about this thing, anyone who
> wants to depict it in a Castle Rock film must meet with Reiner first in
> order to justify its inclusion.
>
> So what's got Rob so upset? Gratuitous violence? Casual ---? Disrespect
> toward Christianity? Bias against Big Business? Is that what he wants to
cut
> down or eliminate? No, of course not. That would be censorship. He wants
to
> get rid of smoking. There's too much smoking in movies.
>
> To quote Mr. Reiner, "Movies are basically advertising cigarettes to
kids."
> No knock on Rob. In fact, I agree with him. But why is smoking open to
> censorship and not these other issues? And what happened to Hollywood's
> argument that movies and TV shows don't cause bad behavior, they just
> reflect it? Or is it merely a health issue? But surely, health is involved
> when it comes to violence and casual ---. The answer is, there is no
answer.
> It's just Hollywood being Hollywood. It's monumental hypocrisy. Kids can't
> pick up bad habits from what they watch... oh, except for smoking.
>
> You see, if you complain about what you see as excesses on the screen, you
> are a book-burning prude who wants to tell everyone else how to live. You
> are a censor. You have no right. That is a right saved for the wise. They
> know better. They are important.
>
> It's the same kind of nonsense that brings celebrities to "Save the Earth"
> benefits in eight-mile-per-gallon limos. Or that allows them to make a
> public service announcement urging recycling -- filmed at their 20,000
> square foot homes. They can lecture to you and you should listen, even if
> they don't, because... well, because they're celebrities. They're from
> Hollywood, for goodness sake-and you live in Michigan!
>
> I could go on with a laundry list of silly and hypocritical things said
and
> done by some of my fellow Show Business luminaries, but the point here is
> not to make them look silly. They're perfectly capable of doing that
without
> my help. The larger point is the disconnect between the realities of this
> nation and its people, and the perceived realities of many in the
> entertainment community.
> I don't mean to sound too harsh -- or hypocritical. After all, I seem
> perfectly happy to have cashed my checks for the more than 30 years I've
> been in television. And I'm not exactly working on the Dead Sea Scrolls. I
> do make a living by selling vowels and spinning a giant multicolored
wheel!
> So who am I to be pointing fingers? Well, I'm just someone who wants to
feel
> prouder than he does -- as proud as he once was -- about what goes on in
his
> industry. And that's why I spend only part of my time around it. I need to
> step back occasionally. I think it does help me see the world more
clearly.
>
> And that's the irony of it all. Whether it is from my home in Maryland or
> from your classroom here in Hillsdale, you -- in a very real way -- are
more
> aware of what this nation and this world are about than the supposedly
> well-connected and in-tune people who inhabit our media culture.
>
> Former CBS News-man Bernard Goldberg has written a best- selling book
called
> Bias, in which he maintains that the real problem with the media is not a
> bias based on liberal vs. conservative or Republican vs. Democrat. It is a
> bias based on the sameness of worldview caused by social, intellectual,
> educational and professional inbreeding. These are folks who travel in the
> same circles, go to the same parties, talk to the same people, compare
their
> ideas to people with the same ideas, and develop a standard view on issues
> that makes any deviation from them seem somehow marginal, or even weird.
>
> They think they have diversity in their midst because they take pains to
> hire a representative mix of gender and race. But there is no diversity of
> thought. On the great social issues of our time, there is an alarmingly
> monolithic view held by what has become known as the "media elite." You
can
> bet that the New York Times is careful about how many women it hires, but
> you can also bet that it is not very careful that these women hold diverse
> views on issues they'll be writing about, such as the environment, gun
> control or abortion. My guess is that a pro-life view within the walls of
> the Times is a pretty rare one. And the same holds true on the
entertainment
> side. It is just assumed that "right thinking people" hold certain views.
If
> you don't... well there's the problem. How can you portray people fairly
in
> film or on TV if you think their attitudes are so foreign?
>
> How can you write about people fairly if they seem so out of touch with
what
> you are used to in your everyday life? That might help explain why
religion
> is rarely depicted as a natural part of life in the average sitcom or
drama
> series, despite the fact that tens of millions of Americans say that it is
> important to them.
>
> At a dinner party in Los Angeles recently, our hostess was about to say
some
> grudgingly kind words about President Bush and the way he was handling the
> War on Terror. She prefaced her remarks by saying, "Now I know everyone at
> this table voted for Al Gore, but ..." Well, she knew no such thing. She
> just presumed it. It's what "right-thinking" people did. This "false
> reality" is a phenomenon that permeates media circles.
>
> It's the phenomenon that caused Pauline Kael, former film critic for The
New
> Yorker, to remark after Richard Nixon's election sweep in 1972, "I can't
> believe it! I don't know a single person who voted for him." This was a
man
> who won in 49 out of 50 states, and she didn't know one person who voted
for
> him. And I don't think she was dealing in hyperbole. She simply had never
> met those people. She couldn't believe they really existed.
>
> It's the phenomenon that allows the media to "rediscover" patriotism and
> heroism in the wake of September 11, when those of you in Hillsdale, and
> millions of others in St. Louis, Cleveland, Salem, Phoenix, Cheyenne, and
a
> thousand other cities and small towns, know that those traits never went
> away.
>
> It's the phenomenon that explains Hollywood's disdain for Big Business.
You
> read about it in the newsmagazines and see it in the movies. Big Business
is
> bad. The people who run these businesses are heartless, often criminal,
> brutes. There is no regard for the little guy. Thousands are laid off
while
> the greedy business executives reap windfall profits. Never mind that some
> of the biggest and least-competitive businesses are in entertainment. They
> merge, they lay off thousands, while stock options accrue to the top
> executives. Top talent at networks and in movies get tens -- even
> hundreds -- of millions while so many of their co-workers, the little
people
> they care so much about, lose their jobs. They simply don't see the
> contradiction. They are above it.
>
> And, perhaps worst of all, it's the phenomenon that allows movie studios
and
> television networks to program with an utter disregard for your kids and
> your communities. It's not that they're evil people. They have kids and
they
> care about them. But they see no connection between what they do and the
> results of what they do. And, besides, you're not really families and
> communities. You're ratings, demographics and sales.
>
> You see, they are -- for the most part -- clueless. Clueless about this
> country and its people. Clueless about you. And they are afraid. They are
> afraid of the new technologies-afraid of the dwindling numbers of viewers
or
> readers or listeners... afraid for their very existence. So, don't you
see,
> they have to do what it takes to survive. They must survive. They are
> important. Who do you people out here -- the ones they fly over on their
way
> to the other Coast for meetings -- who do you think you are?
>
> Well, you are this country. You are its future. And I think that's a very
> good thing to be. The world can look mighty dark and forbidding at times.
> But how exciting to be in a position to help change all that. And you're
at
> the center of it. The center is not Los Angeles or New York. The power is
> not in Hollywood or Washington. The power is here.
> Oh, you may end up in one of those other locations, but look what you will
> bring with you. This place. Its ideals. Its strengths. Its traditions. You
> will have spent these formative years in a setting where ideas can be
> discussed and treated with respect. Where the great traditions of this
> nation and its cultural heritage have been passed on to you... and,
through
> you, will be passed on to countless others.
>
> No matter how you eventually make your living or where you live your life,
> your time here at Hillsdale helps assure that you will have a positive
> impact on your generation. That strikes me as an excellent start on your
> legacy.
>
> I will take a small part of Hillsdale with me when I leave. I envy the big
> part that each of you will carry throughout your lives. This resource --
> this power -- is reality. Not the media's version of it. And you possess
it.
> Use it wisely. Thank you.

Bone Daddy
August 18th, 2002, 05:43 PM
So EAO you're saying what?LMAO..Almost didn't recognize the post without all the colors but the length gave it away...Hee Hee..So we're self-important?Are we hollywood or the cool ones??:eek:

Train7651
August 18th, 2002, 06:48 PM
Could someone please get me that on audiobook since i haven't the time to read it,

Psycho99
August 18th, 2002, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by MercurE1
I got this letter in my email box, and thought it kinda summed up how a lot of people feel

The following is abridged from a speech delivered at Hillsdale's
All-College
> Spring Convocation, held at the College Baptist Church, on April 4, 2002.
>
> Here in this quiet, peaceful corner of Michigan, you might not have a
sense
> of your importance in the world. I come from a community that has the
> opposite problem. Because it is so big and so powerful, so great and so
> well-known, it has an exaggerated view of its significance. That community
> is Hollywood. Not Hollywood, the town. Not much Show Business actually
goes
> on there. Most of the studios are spread around other Southern California
> communities, like Culver City or Burbank. But I mean Hollywood, the
> Entertainment Mecca -- which includes parts of Southern California and New
> York City, and, because news has become entertainment, some of Washington,
> D.C., as well.
> While I work in Hollywood, I live elsewhere. My family and I live in a
quiet
> suburb of Annapolis, Maryland. The kids go to school there. They live near
> their grandparents -- my in-laws -- and most of my neighbors care very
> little about overnight ratings, box office grosses and sweeps weeks. We
> don't hate L.A. In fact, we like it, and we spend a great deal of time
> there. But I happen to have a job that allows me a great deal of
> flexibility, and that gives me the luxury of living a real life in
addition
> to my fake one.
>
> You see, one of the dangers of my business is that it has the potential to
> fill you with a distorted view of life and of your importance in it. And
> it's understandable in a way. If you are part of a successful enterprise,
> people treat you very well. They send limos for you. They tiptoe around
you.
> They pretend that the most outlandish or inane things you might say are
> important and quotable. Drugs? Adultery? Alcoholism? Deviant behavior?
Don't
> worry. You go on Oprah-you cry-people call you heroic for being so
open-and
> your career soars to new heights.
>
> You're treated importantly, so you must be important. Suddenly your views
> are not just your own private opinions; they become part of the public
> record. They quote you on Entertainment Tonight and in People magazine.
You
> can endorse a candidate, fight for a cause, call people names -- it's
pretty
> heady stuff. The world waits breathlessly for your next pronouncement.
>
> Rosie O'Donnell -- a daytime talk show host -- goes public with her ---ual
> preference, and she is lauded as brave. What exactly is brave about that?
> First of all, who cares? And what's brave about getting the chance to be
> interviewed by ABC and landing on magazine covers? I characterize it as
> bravery-as-a-career-move.
>
> I don't mean to pick on Ms. O'Donnell, but it's just another example of
the
> self-importance that Show Business can bestow on you -- the idea that your
> ---ual preference matters to anyone other than your immediate family and
> your partner, or partners, seems rather silly to me.
>
> Speaking of silly, Alec Baldwin, an actor, recently compared the election
of
> George W. Bush to the terrorist attacks of last September. This is the
same
> Baldwin brother who promised to leave the country if Bush were elected.
> Sadly, he reneged on that one. Baldwin also went on Conan O'Brien's
> late-night show during the Clinton impeachment to say that Illinois
> Republican Congressman Henry Hyde should be shot -- along with his family.
>
> Do remarks like that get you chastised in Hollywood? Ostracized?
> Marginalized? No, it's Alec Baldwin. He's an actor. He's in Show Business.
> He's important.
>
> The silliness and outrageousness that emanates from Hollywood comes from
> non-performers as well. Ted Turner once mocked his employees who had ashes
> on their foreheads for Ash Wednesday as "Jesus Freaks." Mr. Turner, a
> self-proclaimed protector of human rights, apparently has his limits.
>
> Filmmaker Rob Reiner -- a cofounder of Castle Rock Entertainment -- is
> reportedly upset by what he sees in many films these days, and he plans to
> do something about it. In fact, he's so upset about this thing, anyone who
> wants to depict it in a Castle Rock film must meet with Reiner first in
> order to justify its inclusion.
>
> So what's got Rob so upset? Gratuitous violence? Casual ---? Disrespect
> toward Christianity? Bias against Big Business? Is that what he wants to
cut
> down or eliminate? No, of course not. That would be censorship. He wants
to
> get rid of smoking. There's too much smoking in movies.
>
> To quote Mr. Reiner, "Movies are basically advertising cigarettes to
kids."
> No knock on Rob. In fact, I agree with him. But why is smoking open to
> censorship and not these other issues? And what happened to Hollywood's
> argument that movies and TV shows don't cause bad behavior, they just
> reflect it? Or is it merely a health issue? But surely, health is involved
> when it comes to violence and casual ---. The answer is, there is no
answer.
> It's just Hollywood being Hollywood. It's monumental hypocrisy. Kids can't
> pick up bad habits from what they watch... oh, except for smoking.
>
> You see, if you complain about what you see as excesses on the screen, you
> are a book-burning prude who wants to tell everyone else how to live. You
> are a censor. You have no right. That is a right saved for the wise. They
> know better. They are important.
>
> It's the same kind of nonsense that brings celebrities to "Save the Earth"
> benefits in eight-mile-per-gallon limos. Or that allows them to make a
> public service announcement urging recycling -- filmed at their 20,000
> square foot homes. They can lecture to you and you should listen, even if
> they don't, because... well, because they're celebrities. They're from
> Hollywood, for goodness sake-and you live in Michigan!
>
> I could go on with a laundry list of silly and hypocritical things said
and
> done by some of my fellow Show Business luminaries, but the point here is
> not to make them look silly. They're perfectly capable of doing that
without
> my help. The larger point is the disconnect between the realities of this
> nation and its people, and the perceived realities of many in the
> entertainment community.
> I don't mean to sound too harsh -- or hypocritical. After all, I seem
> perfectly happy to have cashed my checks for the more than 30 years I've
> been in television. And I'm not exactly working on the Dead Sea Scrolls. I
> do make a living by selling vowels and spinning a giant multicolored
wheel!
> So who am I to be pointing fingers? Well, I'm just someone who wants to
feel
> prouder than he does -- as proud as he once was -- about what goes on in
his
> industry. And that's why I spend only part of my time around it. I need to
> step back occasionally. I think it does help me see the world more
clearly.
>
> And that's the irony of it all. Whether it is from my home in Maryland or
> from your classroom here in Hillsdale, you -- in a very real way -- are
more
> aware of what this nation and this world are about than the supposedly
> well-connected and in-tune people who inhabit our media culture.
>
> Former CBS News-man Bernard Goldberg has written a best- selling book
called
> Bias, in which he maintains that the real problem with the media is not a
> bias based on liberal vs. conservative or Republican vs. Democrat. It is a
> bias based on the sameness of worldview caused by social, intellectual,
> educational and professional inbreeding. These are folks who travel in the
> same circles, go to the same parties, talk to the same people, compare
their
> ideas to people with the same ideas, and develop a standard view on issues
> that makes any deviation from them seem somehow marginal, or even weird.
>
> They think they have diversity in their midst because they take pains to
> hire a representative mix of gender and race. But there is no diversity of
> thought. On the great social issues of our time, there is an alarmingly
> monolithic view held by what has become known as the "media elite." You
can
> bet that the New York Times is careful about how many women it hires, but
> you can also bet that it is not very careful that these women hold diverse
> views on issues they'll be writing about, such as the environment, gun
> control or abortion. My guess is that a pro-life view within the walls of
> the Times is a pretty rare one. And the same holds true on the
entertainment
> side. It is just assumed that "right thinking people" hold certain views.
If
> you don't... well there's the problem. How can you portray people fairly
in
> film or on TV if you think their attitudes are so foreign?
>
> How can you write about people fairly if they seem so out of touch with
what
> you are used to in your everyday life? That might help explain why
religion
> is rarely depicted as a natural part of life in the average sitcom or
drama
> series, despite the fact that tens of millions of Americans say that it is
> important to them.
>
> At a dinner party in Los Angeles recently, our hostess was about to say
some
> grudgingly kind words about President Bush and the way he was handling the
> War on Terror. She prefaced her remarks by saying, "Now I know everyone at
> this table voted for Al Gore, but ..." Well, she knew no such thing. She
> just presumed it. It's what "right-thinking" people did. This "false
> reality" is a phenomenon that permeates media circles.
>
> It's the phenomenon that caused Pauline Kael, former film critic for The
New
> Yorker, to remark after Richard Nixon's election sweep in 1972, "I can't
> believe it! I don't know a single person who voted for him." This was a
man
> who won in 49 out of 50 states, and she didn't know one person who voted
for
> him. And I don't think she was dealing in hyperbole. She simply had never
> met those people. She couldn't believe they really existed.
>
> It's the phenomenon that allows the media to "rediscover" patriotism and
> heroism in the wake of September 11, when those of you in Hillsdale, and
> millions of others in St. Louis, Cleveland, Salem, Phoenix, Cheyenne, and
a
> thousand other cities and small towns, know that those traits never went
> away.
>
> It's the phenomenon that explains Hollywood's disdain for Big Business.
You
> read about it in the newsmagazines and see it in the movies. Big Business
is
> bad. The people who run these businesses are heartless, often criminal,
> brutes. There is no regard for the little guy. Thousands are laid off
while
> the greedy business executives reap windfall profits. Never mind that some
> of the biggest and least-competitive businesses are in entertainment. They
> merge, they lay off thousands, while stock options accrue to the top
> executives. Top talent at networks and in movies get tens -- even
> hundreds -- of millions while so many of their co-workers, the little
people
> they care so much about, lose their jobs. They simply don't see the
> contradiction. They are above it.
>
> And, perhaps worst of all, it's the phenomenon that allows movie studios
and
> television networks to program with an utter disregard for your kids and
> your communities. It's not that they're evil people. They have kids and
they
> care about them. But they see no connection between what they do and the
> results of what they do. And, besides, you're not really families and
> communities. You're ratings, demographics and sales.
>
> You see, they are -- for the most part -- clueless. Clueless about this
> country and its people. Clueless about you. And they are afraid. They are
> afraid of the new technologies-afraid of the dwindling numbers of viewers
or
> readers or listeners... afraid for their very existence. So, don't you
see,
> they have to do what it takes to survive. They must survive. They are
> important. Who do you people out here -- the ones they fly over on their
way
> to the other Coast for meetings -- who do you think you are?
>
> Well, you are this country. You are its future. And I think that's a very
> good thing to be. The world can look mighty dark and forbidding at times.
> But how exciting to be in a position to help change all that. And you're
at
> the center of it. The center is not Los Angeles or New York. The power is
> not in Hollywood or Washington. The power is here.
> Oh, you may end up in one of those other locations, but look what you will
> bring with you. This place. Its ideals. Its strengths. Its traditions. You
> will have spent these formative years in a setting where ideas can be
> discussed and treated with respect. Where the great traditions of this
> nation and its cultural heritage have been passed on to you... and,
through
> you, will be passed on to countless others.
>
> No matter how you eventually make your living or where you live your life,
> your time here at Hillsdale helps assure that you will have a positive
> impact on your generation. That strikes me as an excellent start on your
> legacy.
>
> I will take a small part of Hillsdale with me when I leave. I envy the big
> part that each of you will carry throughout your lives. This resource --
> this power -- is reality. Not the media's version of it. And you possess
it.
> Use it wisely. Thank you.



:D...LMFAO......Good Read!! :).....LMFAO:D:D

~~The Psycho

Bone Daddy
August 18th, 2002, 08:04 PM
Psycho did you habe to repost that? My finger hurts from scrolling my mouse down...LMAO..We have short attention spans.....

Psycho99
August 18th, 2002, 08:07 PM
;) ROTFLMAO, bones....I HAD to...lmfao...What's up, man?? I decided to do sum late night prowling....gotta get up early, though....kids in bed, had to come around :D

~~The Psycho

Bone Daddy
August 18th, 2002, 08:18 PM
I'm great!!! Did you give the little some good luvin last night??? Hate to waste a good buzz on sleep.......:cool: :gg :o

BrainDamage
August 18th, 2002, 08:21 PM
What did I miss? I got thru the first paragraph before my eyes got blurry..

Psycho99
August 18th, 2002, 08:24 PM
Yeah, bones...I got sum...:):D......No mental pix, please :eek:...

Brain, in case you need a recap, i reposted it in my reply:gg :Z :D ...LMFAO!! How ya been, dude?

~~The Psycho

Bone Daddy
August 18th, 2002, 08:56 PM
Hoo Hoo great..Clown loving!!!!You know it was good when your fake red nose is stuck to the crack of you a$$ the morning after.....Hi Brain...Glad you stopped by...

Psycho99
August 18th, 2002, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by Bone Daddy
Hoo Hoo great..Clown loving!!!!You know it was good when your fake red nose is stuck to the crack of you a$$ the morning after.....Hi Brain...Glad you stopped by...


yeah!...this wuz me when i found it------>:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

~~The Psycho

BrainDamage
August 19th, 2002, 04:51 AM
Originally posted by Psycho99
Yeah, bones...I got sum...:):D......No mental pix, please :eek:...

Brain, in case you need a recap, i reposted it in my reply:gg :Z :D ...LMFAO!! How ya been, dude?

~~The Psycho

Thanks for filling me in.. (I really should re-word that!)

How have I been? Well, I have not been able to speak for almost 2 weeks.. some sort of virus (non-computer variety) screwing with my body. My wife thinks it is a blessing! Other than that, same sh!t different day.

Whazzup with you?

BrainDamage
August 19th, 2002, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by Bone Daddy
.....Hi Brain...Glad you stopped by...

'tis always a pleasure! I like your new avatar.

Bone Daddy
August 19th, 2002, 05:13 AM
Same sh!t diff day...All's well up here...Beer's cold weathers' warm..:cool:

BrainDamage
August 19th, 2002, 06:19 AM
Originally posted by Bone Daddy
Same sh!t diff day...All's well up here...Beer's cold weathers' warm..:cool:

I guess I've got troubles.. women are cold, beer is warm.

Bone Daddy
August 19th, 2002, 06:22 AM
At least we have Monday night football coming up!!!!!ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL!!!!!!!:cool:

BrainDamage
August 19th, 2002, 07:14 AM
Originally posted by Bone Daddy
At least we have Monday night football coming up!!!!!ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL!!!!!!!:cool:

I am probably going to take some flack for this... but..

Football? Not my sport. Now, show me NHL Center Ice and you've got a very happy camper.

I never got into football much. Do the players like it when they get their a$$ patted and then a bunch of guys jump on them?

Go ahead... let me have it!:R

Bone Daddy
August 19th, 2002, 09:09 AM
It's OK I like hockey too..I wouldn't mention getting my butt padded to a 6'6" 320lb guy..I can run fast, but those guys run a 4.4 so I'd get my butt kicked..LOL At least it's better than baseball right now...:mad: Overpaid weiny pretty boys..

elk32170
August 19th, 2002, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by Bone Daddy
It's OK I like hockey too..I wouldn't mention getting my butt padded to a 6'6" 320lb guy..I can run fast, but those guys run a 4.4 so I'd get my butt kicked..LOL At least it's better than baseball right now...:mad: Overpaid weiny pretty boys..

I was having login problems to my ISP over the weekend, so I wasn't able to check in 'till today. Must have been quite the active weekend in the TP! Jeez, I had to go three pages back to catch up with all the new replies....Nice new avatar, btw, Bone Daddy (the text is a nice touch).

I hope those freakin baseball players shoot the golden goose right in the ear, and they end up working at Wendy's. Would serve the greedy rats right. If^H^H When they go on strike, I swear, I'll never watch another baseball game again. Not live, not on TV, not on radio, nothing. They almost lost me in '94, they'll surely lose me for good this time.

.elk

Sgt_Stedenko
August 19th, 2002, 10:01 AM
Does anyone have the Reader's Digest condensed version of this? :gg