Do-Gooders... or something more...

[darthvader]

TTRK,
While I accept the possibilities of your point of view that the governing direction towards a police state is due to the actions of a "do-gooder" individual, I can't accept it as fact.
Biggest reason is that you don't kiss a rattlesnake on the lips, and when you are talking about someone trying to wipe out your life as you know it, you don't allow him ANY quarter! We cannot permit ourselves the lax attitude that will result when we fail to apply the most insidious reasoning to those who try to harm us.
From raising three children, I've learned that whenever you give them the benefit of the doubt, they'll cream you! But if you accept that their motivations are truely malicious and act accordingly, you'll have a chance to love them and teach them responsibility.
That's with kids; but now we're talking about freedom, our very existance. I'd rather be wrong by believeing there's more to it than you suggest, than be wrong by not believing the depth of the movement against us.
Consider Bill Clinxton.. is he a do-gooder because he is trying to eliminate "the guns that cause our problems"?
Then what is he for giving our military secrets to the Chinese?
People who believe they are acting in our best interest do so consistantly. When someone consistantly does something that hurts you, it's no longer the actions of a "do-gooder".
Look at the posts about RCMP burning barns. Are their actions consistantly for, or against you?
Don't kiss that rattlesnake on the lips!
dv

[megados]

I got this as a supposed joke one time, but it smacks of stark reality as far as governments in general go:


How to be a good Democrat
1. You have to believe the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.

2. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about ---.

3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat, than U.S. nuclear weapons technology, in the hands of Chinese communists.

4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.

5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical, documented changes in the earth's climate, and more affected by yuppies driving SUVs.

6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homo---ual is natural.

7. You have to be against capital punishment but support abortion on demand.

8. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.

9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony activists who've never been outside of Seattle do.
10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.

11. You have to believe the military, not corrupt politicians, start wars.

12. You have to believe the NRA is bad, because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good, because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.

13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.

14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinmen are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, General Robert E. Lee or Thomas Edison.

15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides aren't.

16. You have to believe Hillary Clinton is really a lady.

17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried, is because the right people haven't been in charge.

18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and --- offender belongs in the White House.

19. You have to believe that homo---ual parades displaying drag, transvestites and bestiality should be constitutionally protected and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.

20. You have to believe that illegal Democratic party funding by the Chinese is somehow in the best interest of the United States.

21. You have to believe that oral --- is not ---


While some people make a joke of it all, take a real look at what these thing say about the general state of things. Not just in the US, but Canada, and many other places. People try to laugh it off, but mostly because of a feeling of utter helplessness in the face of what was once a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.
It clearly shows the point. Once in a position of power and priviledge, even the most righteous people can be twisted by a government or body that seems to be more of a machine than human. A machine that grows more unstoppable with each passing moment . . .

[To The Real King!!]

Right on megados,

Its the old “POWER corrupts, but absolute power corrupts ABSOLUTELY“!

Hi darthvader,

Listen I wholehearted agree with you when it comes to the Police. They are the worst of the worst, simply would be criminals, without the balls for risk, especially the RCMP. I know exactly what their dishonorable motives are. I am in the midst of dealing with them for the last almost two years now. A brief report on what the did to me and my family is at

http://www.legal-rights.org/Documents/explanation.html


And there are many in Government with very bad motives too. A simple look at what our half baked Prime Minister did at Apex and how the Judge let him show that HE is above the law and the whole SHAWINIGANGATE corruption clearly show just how corrupt our present government is. There is NO doubt about their “desire for lawlessness” and PROFIT from that for them, in my mind.

My latest BANNER below tries to “sum up” how I feel . Its pretty clear, I hope, who THAT is!!

But I do believe that a lot of the damage is done by “do gooder“ idiots who are easily swayed by these sinister forces and are just too outright “DUMB” to realize the consequences of their actions.

But those who do the swaying, the police commissioners and the like, they know EXACTLY what they are up to. I have no illusions about them being “do gooders” or innocents. They are hard ball players, bought and paid for and they know exactly what they do.

The main REAL purpose of this is to get the government further into the BUSINESS of crime. Hey, if you stop the criminals BEFORE they make money, how will you get “Proceeds of Crime.” The Government today generates BIG revenue from “proceeds” and half the time they play both sides of the fence. They take money to allow the crime and then they seize the rest as a “proceed.”

This has become FAR too big a revenue for Government to drop and when they smell “proceeds” you should see what the get away with already.

Its much like tobacco taxes. They PRETEND to raise tobacco taxes to “stop people from killing themselves (like I do) but you DO NOT see them offering those increased taxes for Cancer research. Because its B U L L S H I T!!

No there is ABSOLUTELY a force at work here that knows EXACTLY what it is about and doing but that force DUPES the moronic faction in Government, a very large group indeed.

Pretty soon they will want Judges to have their offices in Police Stations.

I really hope people wake up before its too late. I am trying to help wake them up by posting these articles all over the front page at http://www.legal-rights.org and in the thread at

http://www.dsschat.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=13462

and using the signature (at the bottom) that I do.

But I don’t see many concerned responses, do you?

That is a “CRIME” in itself!!! Come ON people, lets have your views!!

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Thanks,

To The REAL King!!
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[Edited by To The Real King!! on July 6th, 2000 at 05:30 AM]

[gunsmoke2]

:) sorry

[ELF-CO]

Originally posted by fijix
crap omitted as well as fijix's account will be soon tooHi Lo-Tec... still lurking over here instead of bugging the RCMP with more annoyance phone calls I see, eh? Your adjenda is pretty clear... why doncha just grow up.

[Endeavor]

Originally posted by To The Real King!!

http://www.legal-rights.org/Documents/explanation.html



TTRK I just read this link you posted above for the first time this morning. Now before reading this I had a great deal of respect for you and a few others here and didn't think I could admire any of you more. But now I have found that I do respect you even more then I originally thought. The situation with Simple loosing his young child and your reaction to it makes my point even stronger. I don't think that there are words to describe how great a person you are.

I have been unemployed for the last month and this great state that I live in (US). Has deemed it necessary to hold my unemployment up. Even though its not enough to survive on in the first place they think I can manage on my own without it. This is why I haven't Donated to Legal-rights as of yet. As soon as I get back on my feet you will be hearing from me with as much as I can afford. I just hope it is soon.

This is just My honest Opinion about who is The Real King!


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