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Steve Long, Esq
September 22nd, 2002, 11:15 AM
I am an Alabama lawyer that has helped many in the recent controversy with DirectTV and their "BS" threatening letters to those of you out there that have purchased equipment in which they claim you have used for illegal purposes. I am happy to report that any letter that I have sent in reply to my client's letter they received from Direct TV has never resulted in any lawsuit. I send a very strong letter to the author of the letter(s) with threats to countersue them for filing frivoulous lawsuits as well as other claims we may have against them. They want you to contact them and admit that you are illegally tapping into their system by use of equipment you have purchased from various suppliers (e.g. loopers, card readers, etc.) that have many legitimate purposes. I have posted here before and have helped many. Let me take the heat for you and keep them off your backs. Once they receive my communication, they cannot ever contact you again. They will sue you if they do not get an attorney letter of representation after you get their 2nd letter. Please contact me at:

Steven F. Long, Esq.
2330 Highland Avenue South
Birmingham, Alabama 35205
e-mail: HonestLawyer1995@aol.com

The cost to get them off your backs is $200.00. Send me the letters, a brief story of your facts along with a money order to the above address, and I will take care of the preliminary matters. Of course if suit is ever filed, there will be additional charges on an hourly basis, but there probably not be any more come of it once I advise them of my representation. I have helped many in this area. Remember, do not contact them or send them any money.

Steve Long

Alabama Bar requires the following message in all attorney advertisements: "The quality of legal services performed is not greater than the legal services performed by other lawyers."

:)




Hi Steve,

Please take a moment to read my post below and contact me or Risestar about a banner. I think there are many distinct advantages for you and you will be surprized when we converse about it. We will even make the banner for you.

Many Thanks

To The REAL king!!

davidnb
September 22nd, 2002, 11:27 AM
YEA, RIGHT, lol

GhostDog
September 22nd, 2002, 01:19 PM
can anyone verify this? I would not send any information to this poster until it can be verified by an admin. that he is an actual lawyer.

PB&J
September 22nd, 2002, 01:26 PM
good reply ghost dog
i will try and contact him on monday

PB&J

Edward
September 22nd, 2002, 02:56 PM
A search of Findlaw does return the following:

Steven F Long P.C.
Firm: Steven F. Long, P.C.

Address: 2330 Highland Ave S
Birmingham, AL 35205-2912


Phone: (XXX) XXX-8444
(XXX) XXX-XXXX

Fax: (XXX) XXX-XXXX

E-mail:

I edited out the phone numbers. You can do your own search to find them.

crownvic
September 22nd, 2002, 04:31 PM
Yes there is an attorney listed by that name at the address that Mr long posted.
Some of you folks are just to suspicious.

CARTERJ
September 22nd, 2002, 05:56 PM
We can just fax him our letters and a brief factual sheet and kick back with a nice cold Coors Light.:D Think I'll send him an e-mail 2C.

justhappytobehere
September 22nd, 2002, 08:40 PM
Hey, Steve... esquire...

an ambulance just went screaming by my house....

go get em big boy!!!!!!


hahahahah

CARTERJ
September 22nd, 2002, 09:14 PM
Thanks.:)

gunsmoke2
September 23rd, 2002, 12:10 AM
I have posted here before and have helped many.


Hows that. The last time we had a so called lawyer he turned out that his license was suspended. He then Scammed members on two sites.


I personally voice a Big Caution here. Also this site is not responsible for any dealings that go bad.



GS2

sirjohna
September 23rd, 2002, 07:46 AM
His count is 1 because he re-registered with the ESQ on the end of his nick.

morgana
September 23rd, 2002, 07:50 AM
I can see nothing really wrong in a lawyer advertising his abilities and for lack of a better word wares, here in the forums. In the USA lawyers are allowed to advertise openly on TV and other media, so why not this.

Now that being said though, he should at least donate or buy an ad from the site, as he is really here to make money, just like any other seller here. I would like to see him give all the particulars though in his posting and also a list of any complaints against him, wether successful or not. If he wants to set himself up as an expert in these matters and devotes the time and hard work into making himself abreast of all the intracies of these lawsuits, then he will be doing himself and also the members a great service. Lets say that before DTV is done they will send out 500,000 letters, and this guy only gets 1% of these people as clients. That will generate $1,000,000.00 of income. That is not bad, and it is not something we should see as unexpected. Having a lawyer or two who will build their emerging law practice in comunications law and devote his time and resources to the test card side, is not really unimaginable. What I find surprising is that this has not happened more often.

These forums are one very big fishing pond, teeming with those who are in need of legal services. Does anyone even have a hard time seeing this as a huge opportunity for lawyers. The main problem is going to be in filtering the lawyers that can and will do all of this as expected, from those who will just want to do a quick contact and settlement. I am sure that some of these guys are having success at turning the pressure back on to DTV's own legal department, as it is quite easily seen that DTV's tactics are injust and some what bending the frame work of the justice system. Since DTV wants to operate in this murky grey area of cival law, it should not be surprising to find other lawyers who feel they can fight them in this grey area. DTV would also not want to have any case won that would give this murky area any clarity, so yes, it would then go to show that cases getting dropped will become common to those who choose to fight them.

Since the possible money generated will be quite high, and claims are very easy to make, I would suggest that we all be careful in choosing a lawyer. It is not something you should do lightly. If anyone makes contact with any of the lawyers who choose to advertise in these threads, should do as much background checking as possible, and also ask many questions about him. If he passes muster, then go with him making sure that he and you have all the terms set out in writing, and nothing is left out. Most of this is just common sense, but how many times have we heard from people who just never used common sense at all.

mrself_destruct
September 23rd, 2002, 08:45 AM
Great point Geo.

Whether you believe he's legit or not, I think his advise is sound. You gotta play hardball with these guys. They're not going to pursue people they think will give them a hard time in court. They're going after those that IGNORE the letter and those that contact them and admit something - the easy money. They don't make money off people who fight back.

Of course that's just my opinion - I could be wrong

Originally posted by Geo2
GS, I saw the post that he posted before and found it again, it's in the "About The Damn Dtv Letter" thread. It was posted on Sept 3 this year in this forum by "Steve Long". In it he indicated his fee as well for advice and posted his email and telephone numbers. Of course I agree with you on a caution too, nobody should hire somebody to represent them without personally talking to them and making their own conclusions as to whether they want that person to act in their behalf on legal matters. My point was that he should not, in my opinion, be slammed because he posts to let people know about himself and that what was said in his post need a few other things said about them. Many keep saying things like wish we had a lawyer here to clarify this or some such similar thing and it seems a defeating thing to call them ambulance chasers or other things when one does post. It would be nice if one would post with helpful opinions about legal aspects though rather than a "I can help you, send me some money" but who am I to judge another's actions in trying to develope business when he sees a possible opportunity, I'm just a reader here. :)

BTW, I do not know anything about this person, have never had any contact and cannot say anything about his professional services or anything else relating to him or his abilities, so whoever wants to find out more should decide themselves whether to contact him or not. :gg :gg

ragingranger
September 23rd, 2002, 10:48 AM
i'll send a letter for 150.00 LOL hahahahha

jimbo11
September 23rd, 2002, 11:15 AM
Well i sent my money last week so i will get back to you guys if & when he does any thing for me.
What is another $200.00 doun the drain a local lawyer wanted 200 per letter.

Petman
September 23rd, 2002, 01:52 PM
Let's hope he is not one of Dave's lawyers fishing for incriminating evidence.

BrainDamage
September 23rd, 2002, 02:01 PM
All I know is that most any of us would be in breach of the rules on this site for trying to sell our services.

Even if this attorney is 100% legit and can do as he says, the post is against the rules.

Am I out of line with this? Does this thread belong on PD?

Thank you for your time ladies and gentleman of the jury.

phoztech
September 23rd, 2002, 02:38 PM
brain damage i think in general its for places and people that sell satellite equipment and services .... like if i where to post a link to oshmans (sporting goods store) i doubt seriously that they would have a problem with it.

allthough it would be interesting to see a lawyer get a banner add here..

Speedp3
September 23rd, 2002, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by mrself_destruct
Great point Geo.

Whether you believe he's legit or not, I think his advise is sound. You gotta play hardball with these guys. They're not going to pursue people they think will give them a hard time in court. They're going after those that IGNORE the letter and those that contact them and admit something - the easy money. They don't make money off people who fight back.

Of course that's just my opinion - I could be wrong

:gg :gg Right now DTV's collection agency’s are shooting fish in a barrel.

gunsmoke2
September 23rd, 2002, 08:23 PM
Long Steven F Attorney
Birmingham, AL 35216
205-xxx-xxxx

Information :
Practice Areas
Family / Divorce
General Legal Practice
Personal Injury / Malpractice


Payment :
Fees
Free Consultations


This is all I could fine so far. This all Public Information



JUDGE YATES

2970982 O.L.D. v. J.C. (Appeal from Montgomery County
Juvenile Court: JU 97-606.01).
Remanded With Instructions

Circuit Judge Richard H Dorrough (334)832-4950
Family Ct. Clerk Teresa Allen (334)261-4100
Court Reporter Laura Head (334)832-4950
Aplt. Attorney* Steven F Long (205)323-8444
Aple. Attorney* Elna Lee Reese (334)271-4406



ON REHEARING

2970982 O.L.D. v. J.C. (Appeal from Montgomery County
Juvenile Court: JU 97-606.01).
Reversed And Remanded For Further Proceedings
After Remand From Supreme CourtApplication for
Rehearing Overruled; Affirmed

Circuit Judge Richard H Dorrough (334)832-4950
Family Ct. Clerk Teresa Allen (334)261-4100
Court Reporter Laura Head (334)832-4950
Aplt. Attorney* Steven F Long (205)323-8444
Aple. Attorney* Elna Lee Reese (334)271-4406





GS2

jimbo11
September 27th, 2002, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by jimbo11
Well i sent my money last week so i will get back to you guys if & when he does any thing for me.
What is another $200.00 doun the drain a local lawyer wanted 200 per letter.

I told you i would get back to you .
Well today i got a copy of the letter Steve sent SSI i was more than satisfied .
It was a 2page single spaced letter telling them the facts .
I already got my moneys worth.

ny888
September 27th, 2002, 05:01 PM
And what exactly are the facts ?

GhostDog
September 27th, 2002, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by crownvic
Some of you folks are just to suspicious.

I really don't think you can be too suspicious when dealing with Dave and the disinformation and moles that he plants in forums. It would not be beyond Dave to fabricate something like this.;)

As Gunsmoke2 pointed out, there is another lawyer that has scammed many for hu cards on another site, and he is a lawyer, however he never mentioned his suspension.

With that said, just because somebody is a lawyer, does not mean that they should be trusted. Of course this is a generalization, but most lawyers that I know have less knowledge about this sat law than some of the legal expert posters here at Pirates Den.

Keep in mind that you don't even need to be that smart to be a lawyer these days, especially with employment equity. My suggestion is to avoid those that come here to advertise their so-called expert services, if they were so good they would be listed legal-rights.org with the other competent sat law lawyers. I imagine that TTRK has taken due care in selecting competent legal representation for the community. Why take a chance on an unknown lawyer to represent you for probably the same amount of money anyhow?

GhostDog
September 27th, 2002, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by ny888
And what exactly are the facts ?

how about posting the letter?

jimbo11
September 27th, 2002, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by ny888
And what exactly are the facts ?

My scanner is not working & i can't type or spell worth a sh$t.
Fact i cannot cease & desist actions that i am not committing
I did not purchase any illegal devices with the intent to receive encrypted programming.
Do not contact my client MR---- all future correspondences must be directed to me (the lawyer)if they wish to proceedwe we will asert many counter-claims.

they should answer a letter i sent asking for proof that they said they had in the letter to me.
and a page of personal infomation and all the lawyer talk about their strong arm approach

justhappytobehere
September 27th, 2002, 08:42 PM
ssschit... jjjjimmmmbo....

can ya spare a beer?

To The Real King!!
September 27th, 2002, 09:29 PM
Hi Folks,

I have had Mr. Longs contact information posted on legal-rights.org for several weeks now so he is getting that exposure as do the other lawyers there.

I would expect that Mr. Long is (was) simply not aware that there is a modest fee to advertise here. But as we all know there is but you get a flashy banner ad which many people see. This advertising would probably be worth its weight in gold to Mr. Long and the response he would get would mean nothing in overall expenses and would not change his fees.

I like his spirit and the way he deals with them but he needs to know there is a cost to advertise here.

Steve please just contact Risestar <risestar@nisa.net> and he will set it up for you in a painless way. And if there are general information questions that people here ask and if you don't mind posting answers to them, I believe that would get you a lot of good advertising as well as make people feel more comfortable about you. As a banner advertiser you would be able to do that, no problem. You could explain how you can handle people from other jurisdictions and the many general questions people need to know when they are looking for a lawyer. This would be valuable information and could save you having to deal with a lot of separate requests for this information.

Right now I am other members try to answer but because we are not lawyers many people just take it with a shrug nd still do not know what to believe. But if it came from a lawyer I am sure it would be much more meaningful. Like NOT to contact DirecTV™ or their lawyers BEFORE they talk to their own lawyer or YOU. Many people put themselves under the gun by not following this ONE simple rule. And they do not believe the damage they can do but perhaps would understand much better if YOU were to tell them directly. I believe that this would be a VERY useful arrangement since DirecTV™ are sending some 500,000 letter, they claim. that means there is a VERY LARGE number of people who need assistance and the $200.00 fee pre trial should be readily accepted by most people. People always claim they cannot afford a lawyer but at $200.00 to start there is virtually nobody who should NOT get the lawyer they need. It will take away a LOT of heartache from these people. And posting small bts of GENERAL INFO would be most helpful too since people would then KNOW that it comes directly from a lawyer.

So Please contact Risestar at the email address above, get a banner (which is at a very low cost) and then help some of these people understand why they NEED a lawyer, how you can represent them in various jurisdictions pre-trial and that they should not call or talk to DirecTV™ at all themselves. It has been said many times before but not by a lawyer which would add weight to it for people. I believe you would find that getting a banner and talking directly to a large body of people who need your services would be a great thing to do and would immensely benefit your practise.

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phoztech
October 3rd, 2002, 04:03 PM
Long get a banner ad cause heck it would be interesting to see, like TTRK said its cheap incomparison to the amount of business you would get, however also as a gesture of good will offer a trade in services... aka free representation to the designer of your banner ad.. just start a post asking for ideas or a competition for a banner ad for ya.

Edward
October 8th, 2002, 12:54 PM
I have a "friend" who used Mr. Long's services and is satisfied with the service he/she received. I won't comment on the argument for or against the need for Mr. Long to purchase a banner as it is not my call.

SammyBoy
October 8th, 2002, 03:03 PM
Is it a good idea to use a lawyer that would openly advertise on a Pirate message board?

freetv4mee
October 8th, 2002, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by SammyBoy
Is it a good idea to use a lawyer that would openly advertise on a Pirate message board?

Why not? If a lawyer can get money from you AND help you to incriminate yourself from dave's point of interest, what better place to advertise than on a Pirate message board?:K

rockfordpi
October 8th, 2002, 11:30 PM
Is my memory failing me? It seems like many here have been openly recomending Mr. Z Esq. out of Florida for quite some time now. People have been either posting his contact info or referring people to where to find it or how to find him as well as telling evryone about his $400 fee. I am sure Mr Z is great, but I have never seen his banner here and he gets lots of plugs, and he probably deserves them. However, the folks that are near to Mr. Long might appreciate a local attorney.

I do not think Mr. Z is the the officially recomended lawyer here at PD and I do not think PD would be one to thwart competition. It does not matter to me one way or another, though I think both should be allowed to have their names posted here for the sake of information sharing to benefit all.

However, it seems only fair if Mr long is to be forced to buy a banner or stop posting his name, posts recomending Mr. Z's should be deleted or he should have to buy a banner as well. If that is not the case, then it should be disclosed that Mr. Z is the offically preferred provider at this site (which I do not think he is, I am just using that to illustrate my point).

RockfordPI

gunsmoke2
October 9th, 2002, 12:19 AM
It would have been just fine if members recommended Mr long or any other lawyers. I and others recommended Canadian lawyers. However *not* one them came here and blantly advertize on their first post second and third. In fact I am not aware of ANY other lawyer posting and advertizing their services on this site.


There is a obvious difference and this site does not have an official lawyer. Mr long isn't being forced to do anything except myself and other Admins felt he should have paid for a banner which was expressed and ignored by him.



GS2

rockfordpi
October 9th, 2002, 09:11 AM
GS2,

I see your point, there is a difference in others recomending and one recomending himself. I guess I was a bit confused as I did not think the site would allow others to recomend product dealers here by name to who are not site sponsors for those looking for products. Because so many recomended Mr. Z, I assumed there was some leeway for attorneys given the special nature and that there work indirectly benefited all of us. I was concerned that same leeway was not being given Mr. Long. However, you are correct in that Mr. Z himself has never posted his contact info here and that is a difference.

I do not know Mr. Long nor have I ever spoken with him. However, I know somone in that state that may contact him soon and I will post positive or negative feedback for him here at that time and his contact info if the feedback is good.

RockfordPi

Anybody know a good dealer who ships COD to the USA?

gunsmoke2
October 9th, 2002, 03:44 PM
Hi rockfordpi,


This site feels that information including lawyers be available to help many end users getting letters from DTV. Its too important of an issue and has to be viewed differently. I don't know of any other site that provides as much imformation for legal matters as this one.


That's a direct link to the members here who contribute so much.


Thanks


GS2