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Steve Long
September 25th, 2002, 08:35 PM
Dear recipients of the "strong-arm" tactics of Direct TV and their auspices and so called "investigators":

Thanks to many of you who have responded to my previous posts and have retained my services, I have sent out many letters to the Direct TV threatening letters and I have to say that the response has been great. I am receiving many calls from these investigators and it kills them that they can't call many of you "techies" out their who would otherwise incriminate themselves by calling them and telling them you have been bad.

Don't let these threatening letters disturb you any longer. I have been retained by many of you from California to Massachusetts to handle the communications with Direct TV and their claims of illegal interception of encrypted signals.

I am Steven F. Long, Esq. an Alabama lawyer, in good standing, that is involved with helping those of you that are being harrassed by Direct TV. Remember; 1. Don't call them; 2, don't send them any money; and don't write any letters to them. As many of you have heard, my small fee of $200.00 covers a letter of representation to them which keeps them from harassing you, and it covers any pre-lawsuit communications. I am also happy to report that so far, no lawsuits have been filed against my clients. IF you need to discuss this more in detail, feel free to contact me at HonestLawyer1995@aol.com. I will respond in timely fashion. Time is of the essence. Thanks again.




Hi Steve,

Please take a moment to read my post below and contact me or Risestar about a banner. I think there are many distinct advantages for you and you will be surprized when we converse about it. We will even make the banner for you.

Many Thanks

To The REAL king!!

deeznut
September 26th, 2002, 02:41 AM
eh, you check out at martindale.

Steve Long
September 26th, 2002, 05:39 AM
Yes I check out at Martindale. "Very High" rating.

Speedp3
September 26th, 2002, 07:04 AM
Steven F. Long
Birmingham, Alabama
(Jefferson Co.)

Lawyer's Rating - BV*

Admitted: 1995.


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*The Martindale-Hubbell BV rating indicates high to very high legal ability and very high ethical standards as established by confidential opinions from members of the Bar.

justhappytobehere
September 26th, 2002, 03:09 PM
i would also like to see some info.

no one seems to know any specifics in these civil trials. does one HAVE to defend themselves.... or can they plead the fifth?
do i HAVE to speak during discovery.... and am i under oath during the process?
what if i felt that i was not guilty, but, maybe kindof straddled the legal lines in a couple of areas of 'testing'?

anyone else?

justhappyforhucards

gunsmoke2
September 26th, 2002, 03:16 PM
Yes I personally don't approve of the Free advertizing. You are solicitating buisness off this site for Free when we have advertizers who pay for the right to advertize. This site relies on revenue from advertizers and as a professional that shouldn't be hard for you to understand.


The Alabama state bar did comfirmed that you are in good standing and have never been suspended.



GS2

Lager
September 26th, 2002, 05:22 PM
If Dave nails enough people to the wall then this site won't need advertisers. Considering the postings in the past regarding the Z lawyer from Fl, I don't see that big of an issue here. This gentleman is offering a very decent price for his service. 200 bux to keep the wolves at bay is nothing. At least this is a guy that appears willing to not roll over and play dead for the vultures.

Lager

JD490
September 26th, 2002, 07:07 PM
I think this guy is nice to offer his service for such a low amount. I had to fork over $2500 to my local attorney just to get started. I knew about Mr Z's price, but I wanted a local attorney to handle it. Who cares if he post's what he is charging, but I would also like to hear some ideas from him on this matter.

gunsmoke2
September 26th, 2002, 08:46 PM
Who cares if he post's what he is charging


Advertizers on this site who pay for the right to advertize here who also help support this site with revenue that it depends on. We might as well let accountants and doctors advertize for free.


At least this is a guy that appears willing to not roll over and play dead for the vultures.


He says that he never went to court with any client with DTV so I assume then that he works out settlements. What do you thinks he does Lager ?



GS2

Lager
September 26th, 2002, 11:17 PM
Hmmm, now that you put it out there and I reread it....It is possible that is what the refrence meant about his clients not being sued. With his being a respected lawyer and the wording in his post I am leaning the other way. Both the tone and the advice is similar to my personal lawyer, and he is a very very good one. I am frankly suprised that he is willing to handle any pre-trail back and forth for a flat 200 dollars. You can certanily run the whole gambit of hourly rates from 100-1500+$ an hour. Just about every case I have ever seen along these lines runs more like 2500$ for anything leading up to trial and an additional 2500$ if it goes to trial. That includes typical civil suits like these and minor criminal cases alike. Perhaps he will clarify now that the question has been asked?

Lager

PS: I do understand the idea of advertisers and this site, but if the guy does nothing else but negotiate for only 200 dollars, it is a great service for the good of the community. There are so many people that are willing to settle that is scares me personally but the service is one that appears to be needed.

Edit: More to the point of your question. It is possible he has put Dave in a holding pattern by telling them to leave his clients alone and prove it.

mmadmikes1
September 26th, 2002, 11:44 PM
Rules say no but a ton of members ask for help he is offering everyday. I hope something could be worked out. GS is a mod of this forum so I guess it's his to figure out,maybe with some help from his friends. Being as he hasn't edited the post he is still thinking about it himself. I have faith He will get it worked out.

morgana
September 27th, 2002, 06:41 AM
I do not think that this lawyer would have such a hard time buying the advertising on the site, as long as he is allowed to do it in his own way. Lawyers in the USA are allowed to advertise in most forms of the media, so why not this. Yes he will do quite well if he can just do exactly as he claims. There maybe some others that would also want a crack at this opportunity as well. Being that dealer advertisements are going to dwindle away, this maybe a way to get some back. If he checks out as ok, which so far seems to be the case, then we should approach him on running a banner. I would guess since he has a large group looking for this service in just this one forum, he will not hesitate to take the opportunity.

gunsmoke2
September 27th, 2002, 03:06 PM
Hmmm, now that you put it out there and I reread it....It is possible that is what the refrence meant about his clients not being sued. With his being a respected lawyer and the wording in his post I am leaning the other way. Both the tone and the advice is similar to my personal lawyer, and he is a very very good one


Lager,


The way I look at it is if he had won any cases against DTV including cases that are dimissed I would think he would include that in his post along with docket numbers. He left alot of questions unanswered except send me $200.00. What comes next ? I also feel announcing his posts with his name so DTV can read them is very questionable.


A very good lawyer or not he says he has represented quite a few and I just think one the clients would have posted about him.



GS2

gunsmoke2
September 27th, 2002, 03:16 PM
Rules say no but a ton of members ask for help he is offering everyday. I hope something could be worked out. GS is a mod of this forum so I guess it's his to figure out,maybe with some help from his friends. Being as he hasn't edited the post he is still thinking about it himself. I have faith He will get it worked out.



I already posted my personal feeling on this. By now the lawyer has read about this issue and yet he ignores it. I have trouble with that because he has the time post and advertize. On the other hand I don't want to interfer with folks getting access to these services so for now I have left it up.


The solution would be for the lawyer to pay for his advertizing just like anywhwere else such as TV..Radio.. Newspaper and so on.



GS2

Kool Aid
September 27th, 2002, 03:26 PM
And the cost of advertising would be passed along to the consumer.

Kiss the $200 fee good-bye. :(

justhappytobehere
September 27th, 2002, 03:41 PM
uh, GS.... instead of us all debating whether this post is within the rules, lets just close the thread and watch tv with our hu 3m's.

my opinion
justhappyforhu

freetv4mee
September 27th, 2002, 04:23 PM
I think it behooves the entire community to have this lawyer offer affordable services. I mean, aren't we all in this together? If underground forums become the medium for combatting dave's harrassment letters, we all win!!! If other lawyers want to write letters on our behalf for less than $200, we certainly shouldn't discourage them from posting here.

giveupdave
September 27th, 2002, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by Kool Aid
And the cost of advertising would be passed along to the consumer.

Kiss the $200 fee good-bye. :(

What about the cost of running this board where you get all this great info?

morgana
September 27th, 2002, 05:43 PM
This site as well as many others has relied on advertising money to offset the costs. As you can see that dealer advertising is dropping in a very big way, so yes it would not hurt if we had a couple lawyers who wanted to take out banners. If these lawyers live up to their claims and do a good job, it would not be unheard of them getting enough clients to make a very handsome income. This is like anything else you would buy here, in that you must do your own checking out of the person and claims. So far this one looks promising. That is not to say that he can not turn rogue later. So yes I think he is doing people a service. It is up to each of you to decide the same thing for your case.

Kool Aid
September 27th, 2002, 06:00 PM
I think in this instance, the circumstances are a little different.

This guy is not in here trying advertising satellite signal theft equipment, in order to make a profit. I agree that those people should pay to advertise here.

But, this guy appears to be offering a much needed service, at a very reasonable cost (if you consider what it cost for a private lawyer). It's not like this is his only source of income, or his main customer data base.

I would think that the people that run this place would welcome all lawyers in here that are willing to work with us, and not rip anybody off.

I think $200 is a blessing, if it keeps DirecTv off your back, and out of court.


Can you see the difference?

Salty Jizm
September 27th, 2002, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by Kool Aid
I think in this instance, the circumstances are a little different.

This guy is not in here trying advertising satellite signal theft equipment...

Careful here... Especially given the forum this is posted in, I would prefer we do not jump to conclusions about what type of hardware is available from advertisers on this web site.

The only thing I know is some very general purpose hardware is sold by some of the advertisers. OK????

GhostDog
September 27th, 2002, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by Steve Long
HonestLawyer1995@aol.com

now there's an oxymoron...:D

GhostDog
September 27th, 2002, 08:05 PM
why should a lawyer get free advertising?

Hell, if I was a lawyer, I'd have banners on every DSS site out there, it just makes for good business sense. C'mon Steve Long, dish out a couple hundred bucks, if your service is as good as you say you will make a hundred times that... Personally I just hate people that expect something for nothing.:(

bigcat27
September 27th, 2002, 08:27 PM
I have spoken with Steve Long, from what he told me he has not had any of his clients sued. He said that doesn't mean that they won't be sued later. I did like his attitude, he said he wouldn't talk settlement with Dave until they proved they have a case. It does seem like he is chasing after ambulances, but at least he isn't try to screw us like most sharks do.

justhappytobehere
September 27th, 2002, 08:43 PM
ok mr. ipostedtwice

thanks

Edward
September 27th, 2002, 09:12 PM
justhappytobehere I see how you get your post counts up.

To The Real King!!
September 27th, 2002, 09:16 PM
Hi Folks,

I have had Mr. Longs contact information posted on legal-rights.org for several weeks now so he is getting that exposure as do the other lawyers there.

I would expect that Mr. Long is (was) simply not aware that there is a modest fee to advertise here. But as we all know there is but you get a flashy banner ad which many people see. This advertising would probably be worth its weight in gold to Mr. Long and the response he would get would mean nothing in overall expenses and would not change his fees.

I like his spirit and the way he deals with them but he needs to know there is a cost to advertise here.

Steve please just contact Risestar <risestar@nisa.net> and he will set it up for you in a painless way. And if there are general information questions that people here ask and if you don't mind posting answers to them, I believe that would get you a lot of good advertising as well as make people feel more comfortable about you. As a banner advertiser you would be able to do that, no problem. You could explain how you can handle people from other jurisdictions and the many general questions people need to know when they are looking for a lawyer. This would be valuable information and could save you having to deal with a lot of separate requests for this information.

Right now I am other members try to answer but because we are not lawyers many people just take it with a shrug nd still do not know what to believe. But if it came from a lawyer I am sure it would be much more meaningful. Like NOT to contact DirecTV™ or their lawyers BEFORE they talk to their own lawyer or YOU. Many people put themselves under the gun by not following this ONE simple rule. And they do not believe the damage they can do but perhaps would understand much better if YOU were to tell them directly. I believe that this would be a VERY useful arrangement since DirecTV™ are sending some 500,000 letter, they claim. that means there is a VERY LARGE number of people who need assistance and the $200.00 fee pre trial should be readily accepted by most people. People always claim they cannot afford a lawyer but at $200.00 to start there is virtually nobody who should NOT get the lawyer they need. It will take away a LOT of heartache from these people. And posting small bts of GENERAL INFO would be most helpful too since people would then KNOW that it comes directly from a lawyer.

So Please contact Risestar at the email address above, get a banner (which is at a very low cost) and then help some of these people understand why they NEED a lawyer, how you can represent them in various jurisdictions pre-trial and that they should not call or talk to DirecTV™ at all themselves. It has been said many times before but not by a lawyer which would add weight to it for people. I believe you would find that getting a banner and talking directly to a large body of people who need your services would be a great thing to do and would immensely benefit your practise.

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gunsmoke2
September 27th, 2002, 10:10 PM
I have spoken with Steve Long, from what he told me he has not had any of his clients sued. He said that doesn't mean that they won't be sued later. I did like his attitude, he said he wouldn't talk settlement with Dave until they proved they have a case. It does seem like he is chasing after ambulances, but at least he isn't try to screw us like most sharks do.



Well if his clients don't get sued and he doesn't make settlements then what exactly does he do ?


But he only will talked settlement until DTV proves their case. I would think that Steve would tell DTV that they don't have a case versus settling after DTV proved they had a case. ?


If he is going to make the typical settlement ( $3,500 ) and all it will cost you is $200.00 then thats good. But I just recommend that somebody clears that up with him.



GS2

To The Real King!!
September 28th, 2002, 06:00 AM
Hi GS2,

I think what he was getting at here is that HE does not suggest settlement himself but rather waits for THEM to make the offer.

Other lawyers have told me that if they suggest settlement it usully does not go well but that if DirecTV™ make the offer (because the lawyer has shown that they dont have a good case) then they are usually able to negotiate a lower settlement than what has been called the standard one ($3500.00).

If people do not take the time and effort to show them why they have no case against this defendant then why should they reduce the settlement offer. But if they suggest settlement then thats an acknowledgement that their case is not a slam dunk.

Frankly I hope Mr. Long does get a banner here because then if he did a little posting for simple GENERAL questions (not individual ones) then people may not get into trouble by listening to the aholes who say to forget it and that kind of trash talk. Lots of people here need some help and at this cost most people can afford to get to the point where the lawyer may be able to negotiate them A LOWER SETTLEMENT. The problem now is that people dont try PROPERLY and so they either forget it or settle for the full $3500.00 even if they are not guilty.http://www.legal-rights.org/images/ttrk.gif

The point that many people miss is that everyone has a story (verbally) but the only things that are taken seriously is when discovery is entered and directv™ believe they will have a court case on their hands. They don't really want that any more than a defendant does.because now it gets costly for BOTH ides. They just want to take the money and RUN and they don't want to chance a loss in court. And in many cases that would be the result for them as they often have very little that qualifies as "evidence".

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gunsmoke2
September 28th, 2002, 02:58 PM
Hi TTRK,


I agree that it would better for Mr Long to come here and answer some questions so it would be more clear. I am still not sure what is $200.00 covers and what is his rate per hour. Its not for me but for the others who might want his services



GS2

jimbo11
September 28th, 2002, 06:12 PM
This is what Steven Long told me the money is for

Dear Jim:
>
> The most important thing at this point is to let them know that you have a
> lawyer staring down their necks. Do not contact them at all. The $200.00
> covers advisement to you and correspondence with them and/or their
lawyers.
> If a case is filed, I can be admitted pro hac vice but that cost may be
> prohibitive when there are lawyers there that could handle the criminal or
> civil cases if they arise. If you need further info, do not hesitate to
> e-mail me. Thanks
>
> Steve Long, Esq.
> HonestLawyer1995@aol.com

Speedp3
September 28th, 2002, 06:17 PM
pro hac vice
['pro-'hak-'vi-se, -'häk-'ve-ka]

Latin

: for this occasion
Example: a motion to admit the attorney pro hac vice as counsel of record -- Huff v. State, 622 So. 2d 982 (1993) (used esp. when an out-of-state attorney is allowed to practice in a case without the appropriate state bar license)