To get your money back from DTV

[Fuzzball]

Takes organization, a collective effort that will not expose any one person to repercussions. If 50,000 (1/2) of the letter recipients were to acquire GMH stock (400 shares) a collective block of 20,000,000 becomes a powerful tool against management. Would require a fund manager and policy hostile to DTV.

You would also benifit from any gain in stock price and the percentage of ownership in the company raises the wisper of the single to a roar that cannot be dismissed.

Ok back to the real world

[Vonderbach]

I like the way you think Fuzzball! :)

[JWH]

If you owned stock in DTV, and used your "collective block" to allow pirating of signal, you would certainly lose your shirt. When you run a business you have to actually "sell" your product to make money. You have to try to stop anyone from getting your product or service for free. If you sold fruit and allowed the shoplifters to get away, pretty soon everyone would be shoplifting.
JWH

[Fuzzball]

Originally posted by JWH
If you owned stock in DTV, and used your "collective block" to allow pirating of signal, you would certainly lose your shirt. When you run a business you have to actually "sell" your product to make money. You have to try to stop anyone from getting your product or service for free. If you sold fruit and allowed the shoplifters to get away, pretty soon everyone would be shoplifting.
JWH

I do own some GMH (100 shares, peanuts), I'm thinking more of having a certain Dept head chopped, of certain activites ended. A 5% block of company stock carries a lot of weight in such issues. However pipe dreams being what they are.....

[giveupdave]

Originally posted by Fuzzball
I do own some GMH (100 shares, peanuts), I'm thinking more of having a certain Dept head chopped, of certain activites ended. A 5% block of company stock carries a lot of weight in such issues. However pipe dreams being what they are.....

5% precent of a company will do do anything and in this case the other 95% would out vote you

[blcjet]

Best way to get your money back...Become involved with this!!!


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[Vonderbach]

DTV needs to build a better mousetrap, not grab at straws like they are doing currently. Let's look at this from another point of view, to this date, nobody has publicly cracked the zero knowledge test, so why does DTV have such a difficult time protecting their signal?? SOunds to me like DTV needs to invest in some better cryptographers.

Maybe this is the type of decisions that Fuzzball was speaking about.

[thepoet]

Originally posted by Fuzzball
...However pipe dreams being what they are.....

I doubt the smoke you're blowing is coming out of a pipe... And the importance of that %5 block would vanish as soon as someone just passed out copies of your original post - it woouldn't matter whether the author could actually be identified or not. 100 shares of a company you're stealing from? Wow! Talk about having it both ways...

[Vonderbach]

hrmmm, poet, you might want to take another look at Fuzzball's post, I'm fairly certain he was just dreaming. We all know this isn't possible. ;)

[condmca]

Originally posted by thepoet
...as soon as someone just passed out copies of your original post - it woouldn't matter whether the author could actually be identified or not. 100 shares of a company you're stealing from? Wow! Talk about having it both ways...


Maybe I just don't understand the purpose of your particular reply here in this thread poet?? :confused: ??

The fact that this is an information forum and that people are using aliases in here should encourage everyone to post their opinions freely, and not to be scared that what they post in here will somehow be used against them at a later time. :mad:

It would be counterintuitive to even visit an underground forum if one couldn't exchange information without the fear of retribution. ;)