HDTV info Must read for every one looking in to geting 1

[simian]

Here is a list of HD options for you all. I see there is not much info here on the topic. I hope you find this useful.

Simian
__________________
"Better living thru modern, expensive electronics devices"







WORKS WITH P4 ONLY
Available now:
· Zenith HD-SAT520 $799 (DVI)
http://www.zenith.com/index.asp?url...asp%3Fcat%3D42.

· Sony SAT-HD200 $899 (DVI)
http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/2587

· Samsung SIR-TS160 $699 (DVI)
http://www.atsc.org/memberpr/SIR-TS160.html


All BELOW HERE WORK WITH P3

Discontinued but still available:
· Hughes HIRD-E86 $599
http://www.hns.com/default.asp?curr..._definition.htm

· RCA DTC-100 $549
http://www.rca.com/product/viewdeta...,PI640,00.html?

· Toshiba DST-3000 $699
http://www.toshiba.com/tacp/homethe...nt/DST3000.html

· Mitsubishi SR-HD5 $799
http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/PDFs/srhdspecs.pdf

· Zenith DTV-1080 $799
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/show...threadid=177847

· Philips DSHD800 $849
http://www.philipsusa.com/global/b2...=TV&catId=DIGTV (click documents, search for model number)


Discontinued and generally not available:
· Sony SAT-HD100 $799

· Panasonic TU-HDS20 $999

· ProScan PSH-D105 $549


Coming, but not so soon:
· RCA DTC-200 has been delayed to first quarter of 03 (DVI)
http://www.rca.com/content/viewdeta...9-CI258,00.html

· Toshiba DST-3100 has been delayed to sometime in 03 (DVI)
http://www.toshiba.com/tacp/news/may_23_02_dst3100.html


NOTES:
All new DirecTV stb's must have DVI.
The Hughes E-86HD, Mitsubishi SR-HD400, Toshiba DST-3000 & Philips DSHD800 are all the same except for remote and appearance. All are made by Hughes.
The RCA DTC-100 & ProScan PSH-D105 are the same except for remote & appearance. RCA & ProScan are both brands of Thomson Consumer Electronics.
The Zenith HD-SAT520 & Sony SAT-HD200 are the same except for remote & appearence. Both are made by Zenith.
All prices are MSRP.
The required dish and/or antenna for the above units is additional.




Dish Network & Over The Air DTV/HDTV

Available Now:
· Dish 6000 w/optional OTA Adapter & 8PSK Adapter $747
http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/...000/index.shtml

· JVC TU6000RU w/optional OTA Adapter & 8PSK Adapter $747
http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL026665


Coming Soon:
· Dish 211 (Firewire, no OTA)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/show...threadid=175857

· Dish PVR 921 (Firewire, DVI, HDTV PVR, OTA)

· JVC TU-PVR9000 (Firewire, DVI, HDTV PVR, no OTA)
http://www.tvinsite.com/twice/index...y&doc_id=104429

Latest info on the 921 & 9000:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/show...threadid=192887



NOTES:
The 6000 does not come standard with the OTA DTV adapter, it must be ordered as an option.
The 8PSK module is for receiving all available HDTV channels, now & in the future.
The JVC 6000 is the same as the Dish 6000.
The 211 will only have Firewire & sat input connectivity, no analog or DVI is planned at this time.
All prices are MSRP.
The required dish and/or antenna for the above units is additional.




Over The Air DTV/HDTV

Available now:
· Samsung SIR-T165 $699 (Firewire, DVI)
http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/n...IRT165X%252fXAA

· Samsung SIR-T151 $499
http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/n...IRT151X%252fXAA

· Zenith HDV420 $399
http://www.zenith.com/index.asp?url...asp%3Fcat%3D42.

· Sensory Science/Loewe HDT-100 $1600
http://www.dtvbuyer.com/Htm/HDTV/20...e_converter.htm (Includes S-Video input for upconversion)


Coming Soon:
· Panasonic TU-DST52 $399
http://electroline4u.com/shopsite_s...nicTUDST52.html

· Mitsubishi Promise Module $999 (Firewire, QAM, HAVi)
http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/ (For use only with specific Mitsu HDTV Monitors)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/show...threadid=193207
Promise Module Fact Sheet


Coming, maybe?
· Macro Image MDR-500 Price not available.
http://www.mitinc.co.kr/e_index.htm (Includes S-Video input for upconversion & 1080p compatable)

· Macro Image MDR-200 $620 (approx.) (Firewire)
http://www.avkorea.co.kr/board/boar...5569&agroupid=5


Discontinued and not generally available:
· Samsung SIR-T150 $699
· Panasonic TU-DST50 $1699 (Firewire)
· Panasonic TU-DST51 $1199 (Firewire)
· Zenith IQADTV1W $5995
· Mitsubishi HD-1080 $3000 (for use only with specific Mitsu HDTV Monitors)
· Sharp TU-DTV1000 $2000
· Pioneer SH-D505 $2,700
· Pioneer SH-D09 $2,400 (for use only with specific Pioneer HDTV Monitors)
· Princeton Graphics HDT-2000 $899
· Macro Image MDR-100 $649
· Unity Motion HDR-1000A $2495
· Integra HD815


NOTES:
All prices are MSRP.
The required antenna for the above units is additional.




Cable DTV/HDTV

Available Now:
· Motorola DCT-5100 (Optional Firewire) (Comcast, AT&T)
http://gicout60.gic.gi.com/customer...95012-001-a.pdf
http://broadband.motorola.com/catal...nts/DCT5100.pdf

· Scientific Atlanta Explorer 3100HD (Time Warner, Cox)
http://www.sciatl.com/customers/sub...pdfs/745880.pdf
http://www.sciatl.com/highdef/749388B_Web.pdf


Coming Soon:
· Motorola DCT-5200 (Firewire, HDTV PVR)
http://broadband.motorola.com/catal...nts/DCT5200.pdf

· Motorola BMC-9000 (HDTV PVR and more)
http://broadband.motorola.com/catal...nts/BMC9000.pdf

· Scientific Atlanta Explorer 4200HD (Firewire)
http://www.scientificatlanta.com/news/02Dec03-1.htm


Discontinued and not generally available:
· Motorola DCT-2000 & HDD200 (Comcast & AT&T)
http://broadband.motorola.com/catal...nts/DCT2000.pdf
http://broadband.motorola.com/catal...> ProductID=161

· Scientific Atlanta 2000HD (Time Warner)


NOTES:
None of these units are OTA DTV capable.
Multichannel News reports many of the currently available units and units soon to be introduced will have optional DVI.




C/Ku Band DTV/HDTV

Available Now:
· Motorola 4DTV (920, 922, 905) & HDD200
http://www.4dtv.com/HDTV/HDD200.html


NOTES:
It has been confirmed by Motorola this will be the last HD receiver for C/Ku Band for the foreseeable future.
The required dish for the above unit is additional.
This unit is not OTA DTV capable.




Canadian DBS & Cable DTV/HDTV

Available Now:
· ExpressVu 6000 $589 CD (Optional OTA)
http://www.bell.ca/shop/application..._item_sku=99999

· Starchoice 405 & HDD201 $588 CD
https://secure.starchoice.com/english/store/default.asp

· Rogers Cable Scientific Atlanta 3100HD
http://www.sciatl.com/customers/sub...pdfs/745880.pdf
http://www.sciatl.com/highdef/749388B_Web.pdf

· Shaw Cable Motorola DCT-5100 $689, or $589 w/program credit
http://gicout60.gic.gi.com/customer...95012-001-a.pdf
http://broadband.motorola.com/catal...nts/DCT5100.pdf

Discontinued and not generally available:
· Starchoice 401/410/411/421b/921 & HDD201


NOTES:
ExpressVu hardware is made by Echostar but will not receive Dish Network programming.
Starchoice hardware is made by Motorola. The HDD201 & HDD200 are interchangeable.
ExpressVu & Starchoice hardware pricing reflects programming commitment.
The required dish for the ExpressVu & Starchoice units is included.
All prices are in Canadian Dollars and are typical Internet examples.

[oldschoolwizard2000]

do any of the directv units include Tivo type (pvr) abilities?

[simian]

As of right now.... NO but according to the Jan/Feb issue of "The Perfect Vision" DirecTV will demonstrate a new HD capable TiVo at CES with delivery sometime in 2003. The actual quote is near the bottom of the following thread:

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-v...6244#post896244


Simian
__________________
"Better living thru modern, expensive electronics devices"

[ddm]

Simian:
Thanks for all this info. Very helpful!

[duffus]

Simian, Thanks for the excellent post.

One question, you wrote, "All new DirecTV stb's must have DVI."

When is DTV changing to this requirement?
Do you know if retro fit kits for the older sets are in the works?
I take it that DTV will be available only in 480p for those of us without the DVI. Is this correct? What is your source for the DTV change?

Again, thanks for the info.

[golfman68]

Great info Simiam nice job!

[simian]

When is DTV changing to this requirement?
Do you know if retro fit kits for the older sets are in the works?
I take it that DTV will be available only in 480p for those of us without the DVI. Is this correct? What is your source for the DTV change?


DTV has already said that all NEW models will have to have a DVI. The DVI will be for show that are "flaged" meaning the broadcaster, HBO, SHO, HDNET, or your OTA stuff ABC, NBC, CBS will decide then they want to send a flag maybe on a movie of foot ball game so you cant "copy" or "hack" the HD signal and send it over the net. As far as I know there will be no upgrades for curant IRD, every one will have to upgrade(I bought a Toshiba 57H81 a year ago and it has no DVI so it looks like I am getting screw'd on my $3200.00 inverstmant..... kind of piss's me off.


Simian
__________________
"Better living thru modern, expensive electronics devices"

[whathehell]

dame simian you are everywhere ...:R C-ya

[simian]

LOL my brother.... I like to spread the wealth!!

Simian
__________________
"Better living thru modern, expensive electronics devices"

[spr]

so I have read the above, however will the new rca and toshiba that have dvi work with the p3, hu? thanks. I have already screwed up and bought a hd300 only to return it. I desperately want the dvi function for my plasma, but yeah you know... Any idea about the new pvr's that are going to come out with the dvi out? Any news about compatibility with dvi out and p3hu? thanks. spr