Fulfillment Plus

[Boojer]

Does anyone know exactly what records DTV obtained from Fulfillment plus(Derek E. Trone)case. I did a search but couldn't find anything solid?

[JD490]

From what I have heard they settled with Dave which means dave got everything they wanted from them. I would figure every record they had. Everyone one I know that purchased from there has now received a letter.

[Boojer]

The fulfillment plus case took place in may 2001. I june 2002 the only evidence DTV could supply was an illegible slip of paper. I'm wondering what else they have.

[GhostDog]

Originally posted by Boojer
Does anyone know exactly what records DTV obtained from Fulfillment plus(Derek E. Trone)case. I did a search but couldn't find anything solid?

derek and rick trone are brothers that ran whitevip;er... from what i understand they got the shipping records from fulfillment plus and the sales reciepts from whiteviper as part of a settlement

[Boojer]

Ghostdog,

Thanks.
Were Derek or Rick Trone affiliated with any other vendor?

[GhostDog]

whiteviper was their only retail site... they did plenty of wholesale however... i think we will see some criminal indictments against them shortly

[hotty]

Does anyone know if Vcipher/avantec, were part of the FULFILLMENT Plus bust?



Yes and NO they never had anything to do with any of that group and nothing was seized legally from them. Whatever DirecTV™ obtained was obtained illegally and all the time limitations have long ago expired since VC were raided in Nov 1998 and DirecTV™ claim to have learned about it in 1999 accordingf to court documents in Central Californai district (on PACER). They took a $19 million lawsuit against me which they won and I never cooperated or gave them any documents at all.

Hope this helps.

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[KneeJrk]

Fulfillment Plus was run by a guy named Scott. They got his customer list, but no details of specific transactions. Additionally, the staute of limitations regarding any purchase made through them is about to expire. Three sites run by AJ, who is the only dealer I know of fighting Dave, all shipped from Fullfilment Plus (DSS-Stuff, Hangout, and DSS-Islands). This went on for several years. Nearly everyone that ordered from these sites received a letter, but NOT ONE member has received a summons. Finally, when contacted via an attorney regarding the letter, they have yet to have details regarding purchases, including the payment method. I know that I will most likely get flamed for this, but if you only ordered from Fulfillment Plus, you have little, if anything, to fear....

[Rydman313]

NOT ONE member has received a summons.
Not anymore. We were served today for a purchase from CanSat2000. The merchandise was shipped from Fullfillment Plus. BTW, the raid at FP was on the 25th of May, 2001, so for those of you out there that haven't received a summons yet relating to Fullfillment Plus, you only have a couple more days to go........:Z

[dracko712]

Has the 2 year statute been verified as applying??

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TYhe 2 year statute of limitations applies ONLY from the first date they has reasonable opportunity to become aware of the alleged crime. In other words not from the date of the raid at all but from the date they first came into LEGAL possession of the documents. If they got them illegally then they should not be able to present them to court. If you cannot steal their electronic property, then they cannot steal yours either, even to make proof of a claim.

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[stackunderflow]

In court docs posted here and at other sites Dave uses 5/25/01 as the date they claim to have become aware of the "violations". If they try to use a later date the Judge would not be happy once this fact is presented. If there are no filings before then those who waited Dave out don't have much to worry about. This date may only apply to the 2510, 2511, 2512 parts but that is the meat of daves argument, and the only allagations they have any evidence for. I doubt Dave would file the remaining allagations with no evidence. That would be a sure slam dunk win for some lawyer and bad news for Dave.