Does Roy Jones Have A Chance??

[ozzy67]

Does Roy have a chance against Ruiz?
If you saw the Hollyfield-Ruiz fights I think you would have to say Jones wouldnt be able to knock Ruiz down.
I say Ruiz, because Hollyfield couldnt hurt him, not even with the headbutts and elbows.

[Sgt_Stedenko]

A chance, Yes. Will he win? I say No.

[mouse01]

Holyfield was one of my favorite boxers when he was in his prime. He was one of my favorites all the way through the Tyson fights. Holyfield has however slowed down and lost something over the last couple of years. Ruiz is good but he really would have been no match against Holyfield a couple of years ago.
I personally think this is a hard fight to call. It is basically going to come down to how good is Roy's chin. Roy is without a doubt the better boxer in the ring. He is not the hardest hitter so he is going to take some hard shots. My .02 is on Roy. If i lose can someone lend me .02?:)

[Dane]

MY ;) Money is on Roy!:D Dane

[crownvic]

No I wouldn't say it's a hard fight to call,in fact this is the easiest fight in some time as far as prediction.
It's really simple when you think about it, Roy Jones Junior does not loose fights.
Besides,who is RUIZ ?? LOL he darn sure ain't no Lennox Lewis..
Roy Jones all the way,unanomous decision.
Don't get me wrong I darn sure ain't a Roy Jones fan...But...LMAO

[depomas]

The question should really be, "how long will Ruiz last?". I see Roy hitting Ruiz at will and there's nothing he could do about it.

[Fullmonte]

Roy Jones Jr. is a great fighter BUT he it totaly out of his league fighting John Ruiz. Jones has very fast hands but he is not a power puncher like Ruiz is. I feel that Jones will not be able to hurt Ruiz. Considering Jones's speed Ruiz will have a hard time connecting to him, but when he does Jones will feel punches like he never has before. I predict Ruiz with the win. KO in the 9th round.

-Full-

[ozzy67]

Be practical in your predictions.
Yes,Roy is fast and he can sneak some shots in on Ruiz, but there is one thing that is true if you have seen ruiz fight, he is one tough nut to crack.
I "think" what will happen is that Roy wil hit him a few times, but eventually Ruiz will just beat on him from that height(and reach) advantage until Jones will wish for the bell. just mhy .02

P.S. I need to borrow .02 myself, so lets just all enjoy the fight.
After all, it's got to be better than the damn Tyson-Etienne fight right??

Good luck to Jones and Ruiz, at least they WANT to fight unlike SOME WE KNOW!!!

[depomas]

I should've put MORE money on it. Exactly what I said, Jones hit Ruiz at will.

[Fullmonte]

Well, I stand corrected. Either I underestimated Jones's ability or thought to highly of Ruiz. Roy Jones Jr. is a great fighter, period.

Congratulations to the new WBA Heavyweight champion Roy Jones Jr.


Whats next for him. Byrd vs. Jones ? ? ?

-Full-

[depomas]

Maybe........................Hopkins? I'd pay to see that!

[centric]

If Jones would'a pressed Ruiz, Jones, I think, would have got a knock out. But.....Ruiz may have done the same(knockout) if Jones had pressed him. Good display by Jones.

[CHAMP10N]

Jones doesn't take any fight unless he is 100% sure he can win. That's why he pick John 'the quietman' Ruiz to win a portion of the heavweight title instead of challenging Lennox Lewis or Chris Byrd.

I bet he's been checkin' out tapes of all three of those title holders to see which one is the most beatable. Eventually he picked Ruiz who lost his last fight to Kirk Johnson before Johnson got himself DQ'd. Where Lennox and Chris looked dominant in their last fights.

The only reason why Ruiz is even in the top 5-10 is because he beat a name boxer(holyfield), who is way over-the-hill, old and had been beaten in alot of wars. Ruiz is a paper champion, now former paper champion and now roy is the paper champion.

It's all Lennox's fault. He should of just took on his mandatories, than none of this would be happening with this paper champion stuff.

Roy Jones Jr. better not wait for Lennox to turn 40 to fight him. I'd be pissed off.

Lennox Lewis is still the Linear,
universally recognized heavyweight
champion of the world.

[depomas]

[i]


Lennox Lewis is still the Linear,
universally recognized heavyweight
champion of the world. [/B]

The point is not that Jones beat a champion, the point is that Jones beat a boxer that is almost 40 pounds heavier than he is.

[ozzy67]

:o I have to admit, Roy has got a heavyweight punch.
He shocked me at how he stood in front of Ruiz and showed his talent which is endless.

Can you imagine, Im not saying Jones has anything for Lennox Lewis, but Jones is going to show the heavyweight class he can beat a few of them.
Congratulations to Jones, he showed me, thats all I can say.

[CHAMP10N]

Ruiz did not take advantage of that
weight edge because of his passive style.

It's not like he had good skills.
Ruiz was a never champion, he was a beltholder,
who got exposed by Kirk Johnson. that's why
Jones took the fight.

Did anyone actually think
Ruiz is a skilled technicion?

[crownvic]

I would love to see JONES get KO'd,I can't stand the Cocky SOB.
But really he was up against a fighter who is really a FLUKE champion,Lennox maybe interested if the money is right.
JONES never will enter a fight knowing there is doubt in his mind of winning and this fight was no different.
I really don't care for the JONES fights they are almost always predictable and boring.

[Bone Daddy]

I'm going out on a limb here..But Jones will win the fight...

[phoztech]

me too bone daddy.. i think it will go the full 12 rounds... and jones will win most of the individual rounds .. he will fight smart and move around and not get into a sluggin match with ruiz.

I further predict that ruiz and especially his manager will cry foul when they lose.

[phoztech]

Originally posted by phoztech
me too bone daddy.. i think it will go the full 12 rounds... and jones will win most of the individual rounds .. he will fight smart and move around and not get into a sluggin match with ruiz.

I further predict that ruiz and especially his manager will cry foul when they lose.


man o man i cant believe how right i was.. i should have put money on it.

[Fullmonte]

Jones Vs Lewis will never happen. Both fighters base their fights on the purse. Unless Don King is willing to fork over a sum of 20-30 million per boxer, it will never happen. IE., Jones will not fight Hopkins because of the money. Jones has stated that he should be the highlighted fighter, and make the majority of the money, beacuse of the fact he is Roy Jones Jr. and that Hopkins is basically a 'standard' fighter. Of course Hopkins disagrees with this and therefore no fight.

It's a shame that the sport of boxing, as well as many others (maybe all), is now based on money. If a champion is a true champion, he will defend his title against anyone, regardless of whats in the contract. You fight because you love to fight. Money is a perk that comes with it. Just my 2 cents.

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[CHAMP10N]

Bring back yesterday's heroes
By CHRIS WILEY, Staff Writer


So this is what it has come to in the boxing world, people getting excited about a pumped-up light heavyweight beating a stiff.

If you watched Saturday's "heavyweight' fight between Roy Jones Jr. and John Ruiz and judging by the interest leading up to this sideshow, plenty of people did then what you saw was a bogus bit of history, an accomplishment that was neither intriguing nor impressive.

Jones, outweighed by more than 30 pounds, easily outclassed Ruiz a fighter who is maybe a half-notch above your average tomato can and gave boxing fans something to talk about around the water cooler. But that is about as far as it goes, in terms of significance.

Anybody who was surprised at the outcome obviously does not know much about Ruiz, an unremarkable heavyweight who has built a career fighting mostly other unremarkable heavyweights. He may have beaten Evander Holyfield twice (in 2001), but Holyfield by then was a shell of the fighter he once was.

Among those who have beaten Ruiz are Sergei Kobozev, Danell Nicholson and David Tua. Outside of the fight scene, those three are as anonymous as your average witness protection enrollees.

Jones, who bulked up to 193 pounds for Saturday's snoozer, was in much better shape than Ruiz, who appeared so listless, he should have been checked for a pulse.

While Jones certainly had the advantage with his trademark speed and quickness, it was hard for him not to look like greased lightning next to Ruiz, who shuffled around the ring with the energy of a dead man, never coming close to utilizing his three-inch height or four-inch reach advantages. It was clear early on that the only way Ruiz could win was to wind it up and get lucky with a big punch.

But not only did Jones not let that happen, Ruiz never really tried to make it happen. And then Ruiz had the audacity to blame referee Jay Nady, complaining that Nady kept jumping between the fighters when they clenched, keeping him from throwing a potential knockout blow.

"I never got the chances to punch out,' Ruiz said.

A lame excuse, at best.

So Jones did what he does best build a lead, then coast and was helped out by Ruiz, who never presented any danger.

Big deal.

Jones may have become the second light-heavyweight champion to defeat a heavyweight champion Michael Spinks did it first by beating Larry Holmes in 1985 but it was a hollow victory because Ruiz is a mediocre heavyweight who didn't even bother to show up.

The fact that Jones' victory has caused such a stir shows how pathetic the heavyweight division has come, and how desperate boxing is that it has to resort to manufacturing what passes as a marquee matchup these days.

Other than the reigning WBC champion, Lennox Lewis (Ruiz was the WBA champ but that was obviously some sick joke), there is not a heavyweight worth getting excited about. Mike Tyson has freak-show appeal, but his salad days are far behind him. The overachieving Holyfield is too old and his skills have eroded. Chris Byrd is overrated. So is Wladimir Klitschko, who is suing the WBC to get a title match against Lewis.

Though it will probably not happen, the most interesting fight would be between Jones and Tyson. Not because Jones would have any chance against a halfway decent heavyweight (even in his twilight, we suspect Iron Mike would knock Jones' head off), but because of the curiosity factor.

That is what boxing has come these days, a traveling circus looking for a few suckers to scam at $49.95 a pop. With truly great fights coming along so infrequently now (maybe every five or six years, at best), sleazebags like Don King have to sell the sizzle instead of the steak. Tyson vs. Jones would probably be big at the box office and on pay-per-view, simply on the possible gore value alone.

Not that Jones is a bum, or that he should be blamed for all of this. Though he has fought credible opponents only four or five times in his career, that is not completely his fault. Jones has simply been better than most of his opponents, almost regardless of weight class.

But he is a not a serious contender in the heavyweight division. And other than dropping about 30 pounds to fight the likes of Oscar De La Hoya and Shane Mosley (which will happen only on a video game), Jones likely will fill out his career winning yawners against nondescript foes.

The fact that he defeated Ruiz is hardly worth getting excited about. But in the current world of boxing, people fussing over a Jones victory, as historic as it may be, shows just how sour the sweet science has become.

[Sgt_Stedenko]

(even in his twilight, we suspect Iron Mike would knock Jones' head off)

I certainly agree with that.

[Soimcrazy]

The only way Boy Jones jr. will defend his heavyweight title is if he can hand pick his opponent---which will be an un-heard-of part-time boxer !!
Maybe another cop...or a mailman.

Boy Jones jr. raises fighting cocks. Maybe he's been hanging around those cocks so long he's become a chicken $hit.

[Sgt_Stedenko]

Jones said in the post fight interview that he may not ever fight in the heavyweight division again.

I'd luv to see him fight a good boxer. He'd never survive the pounding.

[CHAMP10N]

Get this, he wants $100 million if anyone wants to see him fight Mike Tyson, $50 million to fight Evander Holyfield or any other heavyweights besides, Chris Byrd. He said because of Byrd's style is similar to his. He didn't mention Lennox Lewis's name though.

It looks like he'll be moving back down to fight Antonio Tarver.

[phoztech]

yall can call him chicken .. i call him smart...
i mean look at all these pro football players and baseball players.. he is doing the exact same thing they are doing... except he has to negotiate every single time and his career is likely alot shorter..

if i were him i would not fight lennox lewis cause the extreme height weight disadvantage... however poising to fight mike tyson might not be a bad idea... especially with a 100 million dollar payout... would he get his ass taken ya of course .. but who really knows mike is gettign old and is definitely not as quick as Jones...but hell mike lands a solid one and jones goes down.. but jones goes down and lands on a nice fluffy pile of 100 million dollars ...he never has to fight again....

but if jones takes tyson the distance it is a major embarassment to tyson and he may likely never fight again, and this is a great risk for tyson to take and thus he might be the one that never pursues the fight...

[Sgt_Stedenko]

What would the PPV cost if he got $100 million? $199.95???