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whittles
March 7th, 2003, 06:32 PM
Has anyone been busted using COD or money orders ? There were several sites that used to operate COD or money orders and I was wondering if anyone has received a letter for using this mthod of payment? The sites that I bought from our busted dealer sites now.
ekati
March 7th, 2003, 09:17 PM
Thats the best way to do it. I've been telling people for years to buy stuff that way. Use a MO or cod and use a fake name. If a letter comes to your address you send it back return to sender because no one lives there with that name.
Tomcat1
March 7th, 2003, 09:43 PM
Yes , I know someone who got the letter from ordering from Mountain Electronics by M.O.
lawdawg
March 8th, 2003, 01:33 AM
The evidence I got from DTV’s attorney doesn’t show a payment type, or shipping information. That did not stop them from sending the letters.
ragingranger
March 8th, 2003, 02:36 AM
Yeah I know of somebody, my father in law got a letter and he used COD. He bought from KICK A-- Clones. I do not understand this idiotic companies saving peoples ordeing info. They are all IDIOTS, they have caused a big headache for many people now. IDIOTS!!!!!!
Jeet
March 8th, 2003, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by ragingranger
Yeah I know of somebody, my father in law got a letter and he used COD. He bought from KICK A-- Clones. I do not understand this idiotic companies saving peoples ordeing info. They are all IDIOTS, they have caused a big headache for many people now. IDIOTS!!!!!!
Yep they are idiots alright for not wanting to get screwed by the IRS!!!
Endeavor
March 8th, 2003, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by Jeet
Yep they are idiots alright for not wanting to get screwed by the IRS!!!
Jeet if you go down to your local electronics store and pay cash for electronics. Do they ask you for your name and address so they wont get "screwed" by the IRS. No I didn't think so. They do not need to keep that info. Just how much product was sold and for how much money it was sold for.
ekati
March 8th, 2003, 04:20 PM
Prob doesn't help you if you use your real name. Like i said if you use a fake name you have no worries.
whittles
March 9th, 2003, 05:15 AM
Jeet,
I would think these types of businesses would want to eliminate as much paper trails as possible. They were/are selling products that could be used against them if in the right court.. You think the local drug dealer is saving how much he sold and to who..........Now since these businesses were busted, the feds now know how much they sold and now they are going to pay for it. If you didn't have the paper trail then they would have a much harder case to prove.........
How do you know the product is illegal. That has not been proven in any court and I highly doubt that an ISO7816 programmer is illegal.
Please see my last post in the thread at:
http://www.dsschat.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=149632
Regards,
To The Real King!!
gandalf_thegrey
March 9th, 2003, 12:07 PM
But without a client list the dealer doesn't have any leverage to pull his ass out of a crack. I beleive the reason any dealer kept records is for bargaining power in the case of being busted.
Some say it was for warranty, but a invoice number is all that is needed to claim a warranty on an item.
jones07
March 10th, 2003, 06:37 PM
Busted dealers are looking out for Number 1. And Ex-customers are NOT number 1 :D
JD490
March 10th, 2003, 10:03 PM
I know a guy that used a fake name on a money order the letter came in the fake name "harry potter". Dave sent a second one that was it. They just use whatever name they get.
OB1KnObE
March 13th, 2003, 11:49 AM
Deleting email and sales receipts should be no problem for money order purchases by dealers.....
If the money order was blank the dealer could have numerous people cash them for him.
As for the device in inventory, it fell off the shelf and broke, deductable as loss.
So the dealer comes out with a profit on the money order and on the cost of the item.
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