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500hpvette
May 28th, 2003, 07:52 PM
As a web engineer and software developer, I feel that the time has come whereby others could use a truely simple to use service that will allow everyone their privacy while still being able to use all our popular websites, IRC and messengers without the worry of being tracked and later questioned or sued about our activities.
Although there are products out there now to partially accomplish this, I feel there truely is a need for a simple to use yet effective program to ensure online security. With the use of the program my team of designers are laying out, you will be able to use all your favorite browsers, irc clients, ftp clients and any other software without the worry of electronic tracing and monitoring. This will not be a copy of an anonymizer that allows slow but secure browsing, we are planning on developing a solution to handle all your internet needs.
This service would have to have a small fee attached to it. With our early estimates, we feel that for less than $3-$4 per month, each person can be assured that they will not be electronically traced until everyone gets to prove once and for all that we are still entitled to our freedoms of speech. Once this is accomplished there will be no need for this type of service but until then, the peace of mind of posting, chatting on irc and browsing free of electronic monitoring should be well worth it to everyone. It is unfortunate that our freedoms have to come at a cost.
If anyone thinks that this project is truely needed or desired, let us know. We have a team of extremely skilled engineers that will assemble this and make it available to everyone. This is not only geared towards DSS related monitoring, we are all being monitored to one extent and I dont think that everyone is willing to submit to this. This is not illegal to use in any way, it is your right to online privacy.
Let us know your opinions on this. If it is deamed as a project of true interest, we will put all our efforts into making our design work a reality. As can be seen by the recent lawsuit against one person posting on the forums, we are being monitored and recorded and this is a violation of our rights.
jjbadd
May 28th, 2003, 11:26 PM
i hope you are contacted, your offer seems to me, to be a great offer to us.
iwillfindu007
May 28th, 2003, 11:44 PM
You Got my Vote!! I would be very interested!! Can't wait to see it!:)
zhadum
May 29th, 2003, 12:58 AM
Excellent Idea! We do really need something like this since US and Canada government are increasingly becoming a police state. Funny as it seems that Russia is moving away from communist government and US is moving toward to a totalitarian government being run by multi-corporations. RIAA, Dave, MPAA, DCMA.. what else is left to destroy our freedom?
legal one
May 29th, 2003, 07:29 AM
I think that we should not get too excited about this kind of software as both the U. S. and Canadian governments (FBI, CISIS, etc will not allow this to happen. We are now living in a Big Brother environment. Case in point, a Canadian company in the Province of Alberta developed a 1024 bit encription, virtually unbreakable, OUT OF BUSINESS today. The powers that be have it, not the general public. Just my two bits worth.
All the best
500hpvette
May 29th, 2003, 02:29 PM
Everyone has the legal right to protect their own identity to what ever level they chose. Now if they impersonate someone else in the process that is illegal but simply using software to protect your identity online is not illegal in any form.
gator489
May 29th, 2003, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by legal one
I think that we should not get too excited about this kind of software as both the U. S. and Canadian governments (FBI, CISIS, etc will not allow this to happen. We are now living in a Big Brother environment. Case in point, a Canadian company in the Province of Alberta developed a 1024 bit encription, virtually unbreakable, OUT OF BUSINESS today. The powers that be have it, not the general public. Just my two bits worth.
All the best
Screw Them All (FBI, CISIS, etc.) Count Me In.
L Rissler SI
May 29th, 2003, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by 500hpvette
Everyone has the legal right to protect their own identity to what ever level they chose. Now if they impersonate someone else in the process that is illegal but simply using software to protect your identity online is not illegal in any form.
Yikes!!! JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'M NOT Larry Rissler from DTV's Signal Integrity Department. I'm not trying to impersonate anybody. Just because you see me post negitive comments towards DTV, that is not the claim that Larry Rissler would have those same feelings.
(Now my lawyer is happy...)
Speed1
May 29th, 2003, 06:00 PM
Count me in also... I am so sick and tired of all the things going on that violates our rights and freedom of speech...
lustinspace
May 29th, 2003, 06:09 PM
Sorry but I will pass.
We have recently seen a large number of dealers exposed for the lying scum that they are, and a large number of dealers taking the money and running. But any dealer knows that there is a still a large amount of money to be made, and it doesnt take a rocket scientist to tell them that they can still tap into the money flow, safely, by setting up a proxy business. We dont know you or if any of your claims are true, its obvious that you are opportunistic and I dont see the need to risk my identity to some newcomer in an area that he doesnt really seem to understand.
There are a large number of established, well known proxy sites out there, although only about 20% of them are sufficiently insulated to be of relatively safe. there are some minor legal restrictions depending on where they are based, but some thorough searches will find ones that are proven to be safe.
And the biggest thing going for them----- they have absolutely no connection with dss dealers of any type so we know they are not scum in sheeps clothing just milking the lemmings.
larryrissler
May 29th, 2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by 500hpvette
As a web engineer and software developer, I feel that the time has come whereby others could use a truely simple to use service that will allow everyone their privacy while still being able to use all our popular websites, IRC and messengers without the worry of being tracked and later questioned or sued about our activities.
Although there are products out there now to partially accomplish this, I feel there truely is a need for a simple to use yet effective program to ensure online security. With the use of the program my team of designers are laying out, you will be able to use all your favorite browsers, irc clients, ftp clients and any other software without the worry of electronic tracing and monitoring. This will not be a copy of an anonymizer that allows slow but secure browsing, we are planning on developing a solution to handle all your internet needs.
This service would have to have a small fee attached to it. With our early estimates, we feel that for less than $3-$4 per month, each person can be assured that they will not be electronically traced until everyone gets to prove once and for all that we are still entitled to our freedoms of speech. Once this is accomplished there will be no need for this type of service but until then, the peace of mind of posting, chatting on irc and browsing free of electronic monitoring should be well worth it to everyone. It is unfortunate that our freedoms have to come at a cost.
If anyone thinks that this project is truely needed or desired, let us know. We have a team of extremely skilled engineers that will assemble this and make it available to everyone. This is not only geared towards DSS related monitoring, we are all being monitored to one extent and I dont think that everyone is willing to submit to this. This is not illegal to use in any way, it is your right to online privacy.
Let us know your opinions on this. If it is deamed as a project of true interest, we will put all our efforts into making our design work a reality. As can be seen by the recent lawsuit against one person posting on the forums, we are being monitored and recorded and this is a violation of our rights.
As you stated, there are a number of services that *somewhat* offer this. For example (freedom.net) can mask your IP, however they do NOT state if they do or don't keep detail logs of what you visit. Shell accounts, etc will hide a IRC ip and of course good ol SOCKS servers can be used for MSN\email. As your aware, any person (with a judges orders) can obtain whatever logs\payment information for this.
So I commend you on your stance to provide service with no logs such that the constitution still holds firmly. Especially if you provide all these services, something no other privacy company does to my knowledge.
Keep in mind, however, that it's still possible to find a person's identity via this method. If payment records exist, the name of the user can be found (with court orders) and then this user can be monitored via the ISP side connection. To be truly anonymous would virtually require no personal information being involved in your fee. If you can do this, I'd personally pay 20-30 bucks a month (prepaid in the form of a MO\cash) for such service.
If this can't be done, then frankly a person is better off just using anonymous chained SOCKS\Proxy type stuff (annoying as it can be).
Good idea and best of efforts!
L
ELF-CO
May 29th, 2003, 09:14 PM
Lustinspace, nice post. And accurate to the point of disturbing. Food for thought to many people, hopefully.
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