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Bohanjian
June 5th, 2003, 12:19 PM
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DirecTV takes aim at Ky. signal pirates
142 SUED FOR ALLEGED ILLEGAL USE OF SERVICE
By Louise Taylor
HERALD-LEADER STAFF WRITER

DirecTV, the satellite television giant, has begun aggressively pursuing Kentuckians who illegally intercept its programming.

By yesterday afternoon, the company, based in southern California, had sued 142 people in the eastern half of Kentucky it claims bought access cards and other equipment to descramble signals and get hundreds of channels without paying for them.

Nationwide, DirecTV has sued about 8,700 such people, and more are being added to suits every day. Just yesterday, the number of federal lawsuits pending in Eastern and Central Kentucky grew from 19 to 25, most of them with multiple defendants.

While some people think they are doing no wrong by unscrambling signals to get the programs beamed down from space, DirecTV spokes-man Robert Mercer said they are "really stepping into very new and very painful world of exposure to damage and criminal liability.

"There's the argument that 'the signal falls in my back yard' and the perception that it is OK to steal signals.

"Well, it's not OK," he said. "It's like walking into Blockbuster and stuffing a bunch of DVDs under your shirt and walking out."

The lawsuits are filed only against those who have failed to reply to a letter from DirecTV demanding that they stop stealing the services, surrender the pirating equipment and pay damages of about $3,500 per illegal device.

That's less expensive than duking it out with DirecTV in U.S. District Court, Mercer warns. Pirates face a $10,000 price tag for each violation of federal telecommunications laws the company proves against "end-users," or people who pirate for their own use, and $100,000 from those who sell equipment or share codes used to descramble its signals. Add to that the possibility of being ordered to pay for DirecTV's lawyers and punitive damages, and $3,500 looks like a bargain, Mercer said.

Derek Gordon, a Lexington lawyer who is representing one of the people sued, said he questions how DirecTV is going to prove the amount of time pirates stole the satellite signal.

If users unplug the phone line to which the descrambler is attached, DirecTV can't track them, Gordon said. "And the fact a person got a descrambler doesn't mean he ever used it. How can they prove damages?"

DirecTV is targeting people whose names it found on invoices, e-mails, credit card receipts and other documents seized during raids in May 2001 at businesses that distribute pirating devices, including Vector Technologies, DSS-Stuff, Shutt Inc., Intertek, Whiteviper and DSS-Hangout, according to the suits filed in Lexington and other federal courts in Kentucky.

The lawsuits are just one part of DirecTV's anti-piracy campaign, Mercer said. The larger targets are the distributors of the equipment, which stands to become extinct soon anyway, Mercer said.

Pirating satellite TV service involves the use of special computer equipment to rewrite the service's access cards. Satellite TV hackers can rely on regular but unpredictable blasts from DirecTV that sound a little like they hail from Star Wars: The company sends electronic codes over its satellite signal that strike every access card on the globe, including subscribers. While subscribers' cards are rewritten by DirecTV via a phone line, pirated cards are disabled.

But an organized network of hackers in Canada and elsewhere quickly posts computer codes on the Internet to repair pirated cards and reestablish illegal service.

The technological wizardry of the war between pay TV companies and hackers, reminds Gordon of stories about Fuzzbuster radar detectors: "The guy making Fuzzbuster was also working for the cops. He'd make a better Fuzzbuster, then he'd make a better thing for the cops, and it kept on going that way."

DirecTV wants to break that cycle. (from als site)

"We're in the process of developing an access card that is built to be unhackable, and we're now distributing it to customers, but it will take a while because there are millions of cards to replace," Mercer said. "It is a system that changes the way we do business and will transform the pirate landscape."

Response by the 8,700 people sued thus far has fallen into "different buckets," Mercer said. One bucket is filled with people who settle almost as soon as they get served with the suit; another with people who continue to ignore court action as steadfastly as they ignored the demand letter that preceded it and have default judgments entered against them; and a small group that defends itself in court and goes to trial.

An even smaller group hires lawyers. Of the 142 defendants in Eastern Kentucky, fewer than five had informed the court by yesterday that they have hired attorneys.

ILUVPUSC
June 5th, 2003, 08:46 PM
This article is a little inaccurate and a few months behind. the only new suits they have file were on 06-03-03 and it was 1 suit with 3 defendants. The article is just a little misleading. Notice the wording...
By yesterday afternoon, the company, based in southern California, had sued 142 people in the eastern half of Kentucky it claims bought access cards and other

Key word HAD sued... So if you live in Ky dont go getting your panties in a bunch there is nothing new that im aware of (at least its not showing up on pacer)

Im going to start a thread and post ALL current suits(last names only of defendants) that are currently being sued. maybe this will help some of ya.....

Seventhlost
June 21st, 2003, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by zhadum
Hmm.. Mercer's analogy about blockbuster is poor. What's more accurate is if blockbuster employee took stack of DVDs and threw them in your backyard. Does this mean the DVDs are yours to keep since it falls on your property? This is exactly what the satellite providers are doing.

Don't flame me but anyway.. its more of DTV's fault for allowing their IRDs made to be hackable unlike StarChoice, C or Ku band IRDs with VCII encryption which are difficult to hack. They're the one who should be kicking their own butt for allowing this to happen but they are going after the end-users. That's not gonna solve their long term problem because people come and go. The only way to stop it is to change the IRD's technology.

BTW, I'm not into DTV stuff so I'm gonna step off the soapbox.

Even that's not quite correct. It would have been better to use the analogy of walking into blockbuster with a laptop, taking a DVD off the shelf, copying the DVD onto the harddrive, placing the origional DVD and case back on the self, and walking out of the store. But even that analogy would bring up some copyright issues. With testing, the best argument is "if you do not want me to view your data, take your signal off my backyard. Stop blasting electromagnetic radiation at my house."

Jeet
June 21st, 2003, 12:28 PM
Why do people even try to bother using the arguement "Because it is in my backyard it is legal." Well you fail to acknowledge that they have permission to broadcast into your backyard. Fine you never gave them permission, but they don't need your permission. They only need permission from the FCC (in the U.S.) or the CRTC (in Canada). If you don't like that then go sue the FCC.

That arguement works in Canada, because Directv and Echostar are not authorized to broadcast (correct word would be "distribute") their signal in Canada in the first place.

If you guys want a good analagoy that Mercer should have used then here is one. Your next door neighbor is flying his kite and it is in the air but it is over your back yard. Can you now grab it and keep it? It was in your back yard after all, well sort of.

godzla
June 22nd, 2003, 10:20 AM
WHEN YOU CAN TONE DOWN, YOUR ANALOGIES...............
I might just take you out of the reading club.

HAPPY READING......................:eek:


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SBCS
June 23rd, 2003, 05:20 AM
Originally posted by ILUVPUSC
This article is a little inaccurate and a few months behind. the only new suits they have file were on 06-03-03 and it was 1 suit with 3 defendants. The article is just a little misleading. Notice the wording...


Key word HAD sued... So if you live in Ky dont go getting your panties in a bunch there is nothing new that im aware of (at least its not showing up on pacer)

Im going to start a thread and post ALL current suits(last names only of defendants) that are currently being sued. maybe this will help some of ya..... I live in the weastern part in Ky
and was served in the mail with a summons to request a answer within
20 days.I have been to the court dates for DTV v The so called end user an. Have not seen anly thing.The eastern part all i have seen is
16 case`s form dtv.I think it would be nice to have a thread from ky
cases v dtv an case #.An just see how many people are going to court.
SBCS

IBM9000
September 9th, 2003, 09:07 PM
Can someone with a pacer account please list the KY cases? I would really appreciate it.