I would like some answers

[Jhawkerman]

The following is posted at this site :

11/21/2004 12:22 PM by ArcticWind
IRC users beware of DSSTRUST
It is confirmed that the admin at DSSTRUST are using the passwords and logins of their users on other IRC servers to spam and gain access to accounts with privilage. They have also been hacking peoples computers, MSN accounts and email accounts. Also confirmed is that at least one of the admin at DSSTRUST was recently busted by a local taskforce involving both Dave and Charlie and they may be using the information obtained for the purpose of identifying other pirates of interest or pretending to be one of the more popular pirates in hopes of gaining access to current projects in the works (P4 hack and Dish Unlooper no doubt). People are advised to steer very clear of DSSTRUST and if they have accounts there and elsewhere to change their passwords right away. IRC server admin are advised to have all their key people change their passwords right away. THIS IS NOT A DRILL!

I AM AN ADMIN AT DSSTRUST - AND I DON'T FIND THIS FUNNY ... I WANT TO KNOW WHO IS DOING THIS IF YOU HAVE ANY PROOF.. I CAN PROMISE I WILL NOT BE A PART OF ANY IRC WHO WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THAT ACTIVITY AND WILL NOT BE IF PROVEN.... SO EITHER SHOW SOME PROOF OR I EXPECT A RETRACTION WITH THE SAME VIGOR THAT YOU POSTED THIS ACCUSATION...

[Johnny_HU]

i own Dsstrust and i agree with Jhawker show me proof i will gline whoever is doing it dont make these posts unless u have proof myself i think its just rumors but if it is a fact true email me proof i will handle it Johnny_HU1@hotmail.com

[XMyth]

Where's it posted? I can never find this news section that someone is posting stuff on....

[ed12]

well now theres 2 of us.
2%
regards
ed

[Johnny_HU]

http://www.digitalinsurrection.com/echonews/index.php3

this is the url its been 24 hrs and no one has contacted with any proof well heck no one has contacted me at all if this is a fact wheres the proof
who got hacked who pc is messed up and wheres the passwords "show me"
i will remove the violater i think its just some dum a** making trouble and causing trouble as a mater of fact look at this if u know anything about hacking u will know what this is that my firewall caught
characters: 'GET /scripts/..%252f../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0'
2004/11/21, 22:33:01.017, GMT -0600, 3005, 68.125.217.32: HTTP URL has high-bit characters: ''
2004/11/22, 00:41:23.012, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (2 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:41:23.092, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (2 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:41:23.803, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (2 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:41:25.014, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (2 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:41:26.857, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (2 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:41:35.530, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (1 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:41:36.150, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (1 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:41:36.741, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (1 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:41:37.853, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (1 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:43:43.373, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (2 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:43:44.014, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (2 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:43:44.865, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (2 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:43:46.298, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (2 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:43:48.260, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (2 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:43:50.674, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (2 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:43:56.022, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (1 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:43:56.102, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (1 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:43:56.873, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (1 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:43:58.345, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (1 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:44:00.778, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (1 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:44:02.962, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (1 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:44:05.796, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (1 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:44:48.387, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (4 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:44:48.998, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (4 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:44:49.679, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (4 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:44:50.991, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (4 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:44:52.893, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (4 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:44:55.137, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (4 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:44:58.051, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (4 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:47:38.922, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (6 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:47:39.693, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (6 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:47:40.935, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (6 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:47:42.697, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (6 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:47:45.001, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (6 bytes)
2004/11/22, 00:47:47.795, GMT -0600, 2072, Device 1, Blocked short incoming packet, incomplete UDP header (6 bytes)

[XMyth]

Strange....ArticWind and SATKAT never post on the forums....who are they?


I remember a while back someone was complaining about something SATKAT posted too.....

[Jhawkerman]

:mad: ATTENTION: - ArcticWind...ArcticWind...ArcticWind...ArcticWind

I came here in a honest effort to get to the bottom of this alligation that you posted in your Dish Network News Section:

I Posted this yesterday :

I AM AN ADMIN AT DSSTRUST - AND I DON'T FIND THIS FUNNY ... I WANT TO KNOW WHO IS DOING THIS IF YOU HAVE ANY PROOF.. I CAN PROMISE I WILL NOT BE A PART OF ANY IRC WHO WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THAT ACTIVITY AND WILL NOT BE IF PROVEN.... SO EITHER SHOW SOME PROOF OR I EXPECT A RETRACTION WITH THE SAME VIGOR THAT YOU POSTED THIS ACCUSATION...

You say: "What these losers have been doing violates the simple, implied and sacred trust that each IRC user places in their individual server admin."

Aren't you doing almost the same thing ... I came here in a honest effort to get to the bottom
of your allegations. I ask with respect for information so I could look into the allegations .. And what do I see .. More allegations and NOT ANY RESPECT FOR ANOTHER IRC ADMIN !!! That is as childish and wrong as what you say this ADMIN is doing ..

I will ask one last time today ... Why you continue to post unsupported accusations about an IRC that I admin on without a common morsel of respect to ME another IRC ADMINISTRATOR.
Even a simple PM to me here ( which is obviously very easy for you to do )... with the information you think is so compellingly truthful that you see no reason to share with a fellow ADMIN that wants to correct a wrong if one is actually happening - Which without any proof of wrongdoing I can only assume is a total lie by a disgruntled ex-member of the IRC.. I AWAIT THE COMMON COURTASY OF YOUR REPLY

[CLONEGOD]

I also would love some more detail on who what when where how and why
i am deeply concerned over this issue
If there is some proof to these alligations lets see it please
otherlywise i will take it that someone has a personal issue with the fellows listed above and ignore this
if whomever stated these facts can step foreward and provide proof i would love to see it
thank you so much
CG

[gunsmoke2]

I just got a PM about this and wasn't aware of it til now. This is not my site and I don't have access to that area or don't know how to access it.


First I want to apologize to the offended parties. I don't approve of such allegations without anything to back it up. I have been the receiver of false allegations and understand how you feel. I want to go on record that as myself I am very disappointed to see that written and make no excuses for it. I will go on record to say I have voiced my disapproval before on similar articles written in that same section before in Private but looks like it went to deaf ears.



I will do my best to contact Risestar about this and hope he removes it asap. I really can't do more then that. Please be patient as mentioned before I was just recently contacted about it and I will bring this up to the attention of Risestar as quickly as possible.



GS2

[gunsmoke2]

Strange....ArticWind and SATKAT never post on the forums....who are they?



ArticWind has posted before under a different nick. I personally also am ashamed that this person writes such serious allegations under another nick. Totally without courage to face the people who the allegations are directed to. ArticWind if you are reading this contact me asap. Dude that's gutless to use a hidden nick.




GS2

[CLONEGOD]

GS-2
Sir i thank you for your attention to this matter. I know you will help find the facts and truly appreciate your prompt response. Thank you again i look forward to the resolution of this matter.
I did send pms to 6 of the Top admins here at this site as i have has some experience with some of them and they are all outstanding men who have in my opinion impeccable reputations. In less than 1 hour i recieved a response from GS-2.
I am not taking any sides in this matter, i just want the truth if there is any to be found here.
Thank you to the admins of this site and i hope this all works out for the best
CG

[gunsmoke2]

I have contacted and spoke to Risestar. It should be removed within 3 to 4 hours.


Again I apologize to the offended parties. Once again I have expressed that any articles should be approved first before being posted. The only difference now is that I am stating it in Public.



GS2

[Jhawkerman]

I have contacted and spoke to Risestar. It should be removed within 3 to 4 hours.


Again I apologize to the offended parties. Once again I have expressed that any articles should be approved first before being posted. The only difference now is that I am stating it in Public.



GS2

I want to say Thank you for your attention in this matter and your remarks as well, it rewarding to see there are still some caring people around who like I, want to stop this mudslinging and uncalledfor attacks on perfectly good IRC's that don't deserve this type of treatment.. I hope that we can still get to the bottom of this .. I, as an IRC ADMIN, take my responsibility in PROTECTING our members information very seriously, and I want any data that can clear this up quickly .. I very much appreciate yours and anyone elses help in this matter ..

[gunsmoke2]

Hi Jhawkerman & CLONEGOD,



I really don't know anything about this other then the possibility of innocent folks being accused of behavior that could extend to their reputations being tarnished unwarranted. I believe that not to be the case since there is nothing with substance that shows that conduct.



Jhawkerman let me if you would like this thread to stay open for discussion or if you prefer I close it or trash it out of the Public view.



Best Regards



GS2

[ed12]

thk-u gs2 :):)
my 2%
regards
ed


btw is this over ?

i for 1 hope so

[Johnny_HU]

Gentlemen,
Thank you for ur commets and help. i also take our irc and security very serious and the protection of our members comes 1st. I hope all this is over and im am truly sorry for someone bringing it to ur forums. If we can ever do anything for u u know where we are again thank you.

[ArcticWind]

I find it laughable that Johnny_Hu and Wizard would have the "balls" to post complaints here about this issue since they are the admin that are directly involved in the scandal to begin with. Anyone wanting to verify the information should contact any admin at elitecoders. I have not contacted the other server involved this morning to get their permisssion to post thier server name here yet. I see that someone took it upon themselves to delete my post so I will spend the rest of the morning getting it reposted. What took place is not only REAL buit verified and proven. There is no way they can deny what they did....the server admin involved have logs of EVERYTHING!

[prissygal]

Hello To all it may concern I am a admin on the server who got hit in this manner. And yes the allegations which were stated here were true. A few admin of Dsstrust did use passwords of their members.I don't know alot of you that have posted here. Have not saw you at Elitecoders. So it makes me wonder how u know what goes on. I was spammed and badgered every day. Johnny HU went to a neutral server and banned me from my own rooms while i wasn't identifyed. I have no reason to lie. I think its best forgotten for now. But please don't post here and act like a angel. And for those of you who haven't been there. Why are u posting. Jhawker I do not claim it was you who abused these things in Dsstrust. But they were abused.

[ArcticWind]

i own Dsstrust and i agree with Jhawker show me proof i will gline whoever is doing it dont make these posts unless u have proof myself i think its just rumors but if it is a fact true email me proof i will handle it Johnny_HU1@hotmail.com

I find it laughable that Johnny_Hu and Wizard would have the "balls" to post complaints here about this issue since they are the admin that are directly involved in the scandal to begin with. Anyone wanting to verify the information should contact any admin at elitecoders. I have not contacted the other server involved this morning to get their permisssion to post thier server name here yet. I see that someone took it upon themselves to delete my post so I will spend the rest of the morning getting it reposted. What took place is not only REAL buit verified and proven. There is no way they can deny what they did....the server admin involved have logs of EVERYTHING!

[REAL_PRODUCER]

Hello:
Well Gentlemen Seems This Is The 2nd Time My Identity Has Been Stolen And Used For Mischeif: I Never Claim To Be Of Superior Intelegence In And Around These Irc Chnls:
But For Me To Be Used Again Just Sux. I Am An Op In Elitecoders,and Once Again I Have Been Used... Its Just Not Fair To Be Used Like This Again. Last Time This Happened Was In Dsstrust. And I Was Held Accoutable There As I Was At Elitecoders. So.... Whoever Is Doing It.. Your Hurting Me. Not The Server Or There Owners
It Should Be Noted That The Only People To Have My Login And Passwords Were At Dsstrust And Elitecoders. Since The Attack Was On Elitecoders That Leaves Only One Possible Source Of The Account Information *dsstrust*. The Account Information Is Accessible Only To Server Admin Which Means That One Or More Of The Admin At Dsstrust Is Responsible Dont You Think? ALSO I CANT EVEN LOG IN HERE AS PRODUCER,AS SOME ELSE ALREADY HAS MY NICK IN HERE...

[gunsmoke2]

I see that someone took it upon themselves to delete my post so I will spend the rest of the morning getting it reposted



That someone was Risestar who owns this site as you know.



ALSO I CANT EVEN LOG IN HERE AS PRODUCER,AS SOME ELSE ALREADY HAS MY NICK IN HERE...



So are you saying you use the same password here as you do on IRC ? did you request a new password via email recovery here to your email addy you used here ?



GS2

[gunsmoke2]

ALSO I CANT EVEN LOG IN HERE AS PRODUCER,AS SOME ELSE ALREADY HAS MY NICK IN HERE...



There isn't one single post by Producer. The last visit by Producer was in June, 2003. So what would be the purpose for someone to take over your identity here. ?



GS2

[XMyth]

Odd that this site becomes you guy's battlegrounds....

[Johnny_HU]

as i said i have not seen any proof and again im sorry for this being the place it was started as u see prissygal is the root of the problem she is just mad cause she was glined at my server and with good reason as u see she is just a trouble maker and always has been and she has her lil friends coming here to help her this will be my last post for i will not lower my self to there level of stupidity again i am sorry BRING ME PROOF (not prissys password) lmao or her little robots like articwind rofl elitecoders needs to stfu cause they are jealous and banned is no need to take trash about our server

[Akana]

Just to give everyone a heads up....ArcticWind is also Rocksolid,Chewbacca and corky. Corky is an admin and pays the server bills at Elitecoders. Funny how he would come here and post spam. Sounds like a personal vendetta to me. This Arcticwind is also the one that ratted out a few people in the past...namely JRcool.

[Jhawkerman]

I find it laughable that Johnny_Hu and Wizard would have the "balls" to post complaints here about this issue since they are the admin that are directly involved in the scandal to begin with. Anyone wanting to verify the information should contact any admin at elitecoders. I have not contacted the other server involved this morning to get their permisssion to post thier server name here yet. I see that someone took it upon themselves to delete my post so I will spend the rest of the morning getting it reposted. What took place is not only REAL buit verified and proven. There is no way they can deny what they did....the server admin involved have logs of EVERYTHING!

:( I just find it sad that you, ArcticWind, would slander an IRC Server and some of our admins with the comment that " the server admin involved have logs of EVERYTHING" .. How dumb are you? LOGS are like a Word file ... They can be altered to say anything that the person wants .. GIVE ME A BREAK !!!
I have come here with a genuine desire to get to the bottom of this and I have asked for any information that can help .. I have to this point .. Received NOTHING from you or anyone else... I am coming to the conclusion that this is just a disgruntled ex-member of Dsstrust who happens to be an Admin or OP at elitecoders...( I don't go there so I really dont know HER status ) I find this whole thing as nothing but a purposeful effort to discredit a very fine IRC ( Dsstrust ) and some of its fine admins. I want to leave my Private message box open - if you have PROOF .. I Want it .. if you have altered logs light a bonfire with them. Sad isn't it that some people just out of jealousy or a private vendetta against a member of Dsstrust IRC have to use this forum to try and destroy an IRC.... SAD!!

[gunsmoke2]

Hi Jhawkerman



I haven't seen any real evidence of the alledgations and think that you coming here defending yourself and seeking answers while not getting any to me shows you to be creditable and sincere about your members. So while folks read the alledgations they also read what you have to say.




GS2

[Akana]

makes u wonder how credible this site is when they leave that garbage posted in the headline news!!!!

[gunsmoke2]

If it was my decision I would not have left it up as I already voiced that in this thread. It was taken down once and then rewritten and put up again not something I endorsed.



GS2