Re: FMQB:Howard Stern Admits To Opie & Anthony Gag Order

[The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions]

" Velvet" <none@none.com > wrote in message
news:Xns9787D7DDE10FC2587985vt@216.77.188.18...

> Earlier in the program, Stern addressed O&A by saying, "When I'm in
business
> with a company and they hire Howard Stern imitators to go on in the
> afternoon... I don't want anyone knocking me. I have a plan every time I
go
> up against people... I analyze the competition and I think about you six
> different ways to Sunday. I turned to Mel Karmazin at the time, 'Your two
> boys that you hired, who sound identical to me, will implode. I give them
> three to four months. They're so desperate to be famous, they are going to
do
> something stupid. If they can't talk about me, they're gonna go insane.
> Watch.' He laughed since I made other predictions about radio. And I
watched
> them implode."

This is very illustrative of the Hoohoo mentality. O&A worked for the SAME
station and shared the SAME audience yet he attacked them as "competition."
The truth is that he knows the boys are much more talented and funny than he
is and, eventually, they would displace him.
But it happened anyway so fuck the bitchy old jew

--
The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Commander, Usenet OperAtions

O&A always win in the end
Hoohoo always whines in the end

[=?iso-8859-1?q?The_Cunning_Linguist_=3A=DE-?=]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:05:37 +0000, The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Cmdr. Usenet
OperAtions wrote:

>
> " Velvet" <none@none.com > wrote in message
> news:Xns9787D7DDE10FC2587985vt@216.77.188.18...
>
>> Earlier in the program, Stern addressed O&A by saying, "When I'm in
> business
>> with a company and they hire Howard Stern imitators to go on in the
>> afternoon... I don't want anyone knocking me. I have a plan every time I
> go
>> up against people... I analyze the competition and I think about you six
>> different ways to Sunday. I turned to Mel Karmazin at the time, 'Your two
>> boys that you hired, who sound identical to me, will implode. I give them
>> three to four months. They're so desperate to be famous, they are going to
> do
>> something stupid. If they can't talk about me, they're gonna go insane.
>> Watch.' He laughed since I made other predictions about radio. And I
> watched
>> them implode."
>
> This is very illustrative of the Hoohoo mentality. O&A worked for the SAME
> station and shared the SAME audience yet he attacked them as "competition."
> The truth is that he knows the boys are much more talented and funny than he
> is and, eventually, they would displace him.
> But it happened anyway so fuck the bitchy old jew

The ---s aren't particularly funny. They're........disappointing,
actually. Sadly untalented. Desperately trying to be like Stern, so they
basically make their whole show his show. They're not particularly bright,
besides not being entertaining. They're just kind of taking up space.

--
The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Commander, Usenet OperAtions

O&A always win in my end. Hey, they're violently ass-fucking me now!!!

[The Central Scrotinizer]

In article <5fASf.17408$iR1.7249@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
"The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions"
<the_witchboy@yahooX.com> wrote:

> " Velvet" <none@none.com > wrote in message
> news:Xns9787D7DDE10FC2587985vt@216.77.188.18...
>
> > Earlier in the program, Stern addressed O&A by saying, "When I'm in
> business
> > with a company and they hire Howard Stern imitators to go on in the
> > afternoon... I don't want anyone knocking me. I have a plan every time I
> go
> > up against people... I analyze the competition and I think about you six
> > different ways to Sunday. I turned to Mel Karmazin at the time, 'Your two
> > boys that you hired, who sound identical to me, will implode. I give them
> > three to four months. They're so desperate to be famous, they are going to
> do
> > something stupid. If they can't talk about me, they're gonna go insane.
> > Watch.' He laughed since I made other predictions about radio. And I
> watched
> > them implode."
>
> This is very illustrative of the Hoohoo mentality. O&A worked for the SAME
> station and shared the SAME audience yet he attacked them as "competition."
> The truth is that he knows the boys are much more talented and funny than he
> is and, eventually, they would displace him.
> But it happened anyway so fuck the bitchy old jew

What happened anyway?

I would attack anyone as competition too if they came into my backyard
and started ripping my style, THEN had the nuts to talk ---- about my
family and I.

--
The Central Scrotinizer

[Vicki]

"The Central Scrotinizer" wrote ...
> I would attack anyone as competition too if they came into my backyard
> and started ripping my style, THEN had the nuts to talk ---- about my
> family and I.

Are you familiar with the phrase that history repeats itself.

This is exactly what goblin did to Imus when they were both on NBC. Goblin
was on in the afternoons and Imus of course was on in the mornings.

Goblin certainly felt that he was the heir apparent and would eventually be
the morning man when NBC got tired of paying Imus so much money.

Goblin got fired for a stupid bit just like O&A.

He went onto mornings and destroyed Imus.

And this is exactly the reason that Infinity would not allow O&A out of
their contract when they fired them.

They understood history and realized that O&A would have moved over to Clear
Channel and destroyed the goblin.

At that time goblin was in the unfunny post jackie - Flounder era and was
susceptible to any type of actually funny morning show.

[The Central Scrotinizer]

In article <NwASf.3$KY4.2@fe08.lga>, "Vicki" <vickiwilmont@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> "The Central Scrotinizer" wrote ...
> > I would attack anyone as competition too if they came into my backyard
> > and started ripping my style, THEN had the nuts to talk ---- about my
> > family and I.
>
> Are you familiar with the phrase that history repeats itself.
>
> This is exactly what goblin did to Imus when they were both on NBC. Goblin
> was on in the afternoons and Imus of course was on in the mornings.
>
> Goblin certainly felt that he was the heir apparent and would eventually be
> the morning man when NBC got tired of paying Imus so much money.
>
> Goblin got fired for a stupid bit just like O&A.
>
> He went onto mornings and destroyed Imus.
>
> And this is exactly the reason that Infinity would not allow O&A out of
> their contract when they fired them.
>
> They understood history and realized that O&A would have moved over to Clear
> Channel and destroyed the goblin.
>
> At that time goblin was in the unfunny post jackie - Flounder era and was
> susceptible to any type of actually funny morning show.

You just hold that close to your heart and keep smiling. It's all you've
got.

--
The Central Scrotinizer

['The Real' Evil Dick Cheney]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:24:26 -0500, Vicki wrote:

> "The Central Scrotinizer" wrote ...
>> I would attack anyone as competition too if they came into my backyard
>> and started ripping my style, THEN had the nuts to talk ---- about my
>> family and I.
>
> Are you familiar with the phrase that history repeats itself.
>
> This is exactly what goblin did to Imus when they were both on NBC. Goblin
> was on in the afternoons and Imus of course was on in the mornings.
>
> Goblin certainly felt that he was the heir apparent and would eventually be
> the morning man when NBC got tired of paying Imus so much money.
>
> Goblin got fired for a stupid bit just like O&A.
>
> He went onto mornings and destroyed Imus.
>
> And this is exactly the reason that Infinity would not allow O&A out of
> their contract when they fired them.
>
> They understood history and realized that O&A would have moved over to Clear
> Channel and destroyed the goblin.
>
> At that time goblin was in the unfunny post jackie - Flounder era and was
> susceptible to any type of actually funny morning show.

Jackie was never funny. Jackie was more interesting/observational, but it
would be wrong, wrong, wrong to ever claim that Jackie was funny. Jackie
was the parallel universe version of funny. Jackie was a big black hole of
"non-funny". Jackie would inappriately laugh at stuff that wasn't funny,
making it truly awkward, embarrassing and incredibly unfunny. How Jackie
ever got on that show, I have no idea. Interesting he was (at times). To
me, Jackie was easily one of the most unfunny people I've ever heard. A
guy who desperately TRIED to be funny, but failed miserably every time.
Artie's funny. Stern's funny when he's in a funny mood. These guys are
genuinely funny. Jackie funny? As Jon Stewart would say......"Not so much."

[Michael]

The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions wrote:

> " Velvet" <none@none.com > wrote in message
> news:Xns9787D7DDE10FC2587985vt@216.77.188.18...
>
>
>>Earlier in the program, Stern addressed O&A by saying, "When I'm in
>
> business
>
>>with a company and they hire Howard Stern imitators to go on in the
>>afternoon... I don't want anyone knocking me. I have a plan every time I
>
> go
>
>>up against people... I analyze the competition and I think about you six
>>different ways to Sunday. I turned to Mel Karmazin at the time, 'Your two
>>boys that you hired, who sound identical to me, will implode. I give them
>>three to four months. They're so desperate to be famous, they are going to
>
> do
>
>>something stupid. If they can't talk about me, they're gonna go insane.
>>Watch.' He laughed since I made other predictions about radio. And I
>
> watched
>
>>them implode."
>
>
> This is very illustrative of the Hoohoo mentality. O&A worked for the SAME
> station and shared the SAME audience yet he attacked them as "competition."
> The truth is that he knows the boys are much more talented and funny than he
> is and, eventually, they would displace him.
> But it happened anyway so fuck the bitchy old jew

In NYC (home base for both shows) they were on different stations at
different times (Stern in morning drive, O&A in afternoon drive).

Michael

[Earl Campbell]

Dear Opie and Anthony Fans:

I remember, long ago, when Opie and Anthony started out in Worcester,
Massachusetts (and we're fired because they did know when to lighten
up). They were practically clones of Howard and not so good at it
either. Then they were lucky enough to become syndicated and ended up
in Boston, among other stations, on afternoon drive. They got a little
better, but it was never about them, it was about their guests: Jay
Mohr, Little J. Norton, Jim Breuer and Frank Caliendo. By themselves,
they are boring and uninspiring.

I've attempted to listen to their show on XM and I find it going back to
the trite nonsense of their Worcester days. The show is boring. They
are not funny. They have funny guests from time to time. But that's my
opinion and I keep to myself. I don't post on your newsgroups and I
don't bother pranking them, because they don't matter. Neither do you.
If you get your jollies posting on this site, maybe you need to rethink
your existence.

I'm guessing that most of you guys don't get laid. I'm also guessing
that you couldn't fight your way out of a wet paper bag. My last guess
is that you're probably too stupid do anything meaningful either. Hence,
your sense of self is derived through meaningless posts to these
bulletin boards, that are designated for posting the Howard Stern Show.

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[Hoody]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:56:39 -0800, Michael <jandm16@charter.net>
wrote:

>In NYC (home base for both shows) they were on different stations at
>different times (Stern in morning drive, O&A in afternoon drive).

Other markets too like DC and Philly.

[Hoody]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:19:41 -0600, Earl Campbell
<earl34@thisisfake.com> wrote:

>
>Dear Opie and Anthony Fans:
>
>I remember, long ago, when Opie and Anthony started out in Worcester,
>Massachusetts (and we're fired because they did know when to lighten
>up). They were practically clones of Howard and not so good at it
>either.

Please be specific. Which elements were "cloned." How is Bubba NOT a
clone ? Did Howie wake up one day an realize how talented the
LoveSponge is ?

>Then they were lucky enough to become syndicated and ended up
>in Boston, among other stations, on afternoon drive.

Right, they were just lucky. It's not like they got ratings and
generated money. They were on NYC radio becuase they were a
successful show.

>I've attempted to listen to their show on XM and I find it going back to
>the trite nonsense of their Worcester days.

Not like Howie's re-recording 20 year old bits.

[Boom]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:13:29 -0800, The Central Scrotinizer
<mudshark@edgewater.com> wrote:

>> The truth is that he knows the boys are much more talented and funny than he
>> is and, eventually, they would displace him.
>> But it happened anyway so fuck the bitchy old jew
>
>What happened anyway?

They displaced Howard? Spare me!

>I would attack anyone as competition too if they came into my backyard
>and started ripping my style, THEN had the nuts to talk ---- about my
>family and I.

O&A fan: "But Howard did it!"

Yes, that's right. Howard did it. O&A are not Howard, much as they
try to be.

[Leslie Moonves' Chicklet Teeth]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:02:36 +0000, Boom wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:13:29 -0800, The Central Scrotinizer
> <mudshark@edgewater.com> wrote:
>
>>> The truth is that he knows the boys are much more talented and funny than he
>>> is and, eventually, they would displace him.
>>> But it happened anyway so fuck the bitchy old jew
>>
>>What happened anyway?
>
> They displaced Howard? Spare me!
>
>>I would attack anyone as competition too if they came into my backyard
>>and started ripping my style, THEN had the nuts to talk ---- about my
>>family and I.
>
> O&A fan: "But Howard did it!"
>
> Yes, that's right. Howard did it. O&A are not Howard, much as they
> try to be.

They goddam might as well be. They do and play his show every day. Thanks
for the free Stern publicity ---s!!!

[Hoody]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:16:34 -0800, Leslie Moonves' Chicklet Teeth
<I_lost_caps_in_Julie_Chen's_twat@cbs.com> wrote:

>They goddam might as well be. They do and play his show every day. Thanks
>for the free Stern publicity ---s!!!

becuase people who hear Howie lying on XM might subscribe to Sirius.

[Ernie Joe]

"The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions" <the_witchboy@yahooX.com>
wrote in message news:5fASf.17408$iR1.7249@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> " Velvet" <none@none.com > wrote in message
> news:Xns9787D7DDE10FC2587985vt@216.77.188.18...
>
>> Earlier in the program, Stern addressed O&A by saying, "When I'm in
> business
>> with a company and they hire Howard Stern imitators to go on in the
>> afternoon... I don't want anyone knocking me. I have a plan every time I
> go
>> up against people... I analyze the competition and I think about you six
>> different ways to Sunday. I turned to Mel Karmazin at the time, 'Your two
>> boys that you hired, who sound identical to me, will implode. I give them
>> three to four months. They're so desperate to be famous, they are going
>> to
> do
>> something stupid. If they can't talk about me, they're gonna go insane.
>> Watch.' He laughed since I made other predictions about radio. And I
> watched
>> them implode."
>
> This is very illustrative of the Hoohoo mentality. O&A worked for the SAME
> station

But they were nonetheless attacking him on air. They ripped off his act,
and then tried to rip off his audience, by ripping on him. It's not like
they were team players or looking out for the good of the station -- they
were trying to build themselves up at Howard's expense and Howard blew the
whistle on them. If I had a coworker who was running me down behind my back
to our mutual clients, goddam right I would complain to my boss. Think
about it in terms of your own life -- if the guy running the register kept
telling the customers that your french fries weren't that good, you would go
to your boss, right?

> and shared the SAME audience yet he attacked them as "competition."

They weren't interested in sharing -- they were trying to steal howard's
audience and howard knew their tactics, because he'd done the same thing to
other shows in other markets. He'd done the same thing to Imus. He knew
what they were up to because he INVENTED what they were up to -- and are
still up to.

> The truth is that he knows the boys are much more talented and funny than
> he
> is and, eventually, they would displace him.

Yeah, that's Howard, all right -- he's ALWAYS quick to acknowledge other
people who he thinks have more talent than him, right? Or are you saying
that he's not the self-centered egomaniac he appears to be?

[Hoody]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:17:52 -0500, "Ernie Joe"
<ernieanastasio@gnospamail.com> wrote:

>But they were nonetheless attacking him on air.

Wrong. They were responding to him calling them "clones." and it was
nothing vicious at all. Howie was fearful of their emerging success..

>> and shared the SAME audience yet he attacked them as "competition."
>
>They weren't interested in sharing -- they were trying to steal howard's
>audience and howard knew their tactics, because he'd done the same thing to
>other shows in other markets. He'd done the same thing to Imus. He knew
>what they were up to because he INVENTED what they were up to -- and are
>still up to.

"stealing" Howard's audience didn't affect Howie's money or ratings.
It affected his ego...which is much worse.

[Tim Donohoe]

Hoody wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:19:41 -0600, Earl Campbell
> <earl34@thisisfake.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Dear Opie and Anthony Fans:
>>
>>I remember, long ago, when Opie and Anthony started out in Worcester,
>>Massachusetts (and we're fired because they did know when to lighten
>>up). They were practically clones of Howard and not so good at it
>>either.
>
>
> Please be specific. Which elements were "cloned." How is Bubba NOT a
> clone ? Did Howie wake up one day an realize how talented the
> LoveSponge is ?
>

The entire act is a clone of Stern's 25 year old act. Bubba is a
hillbilly retard as far as I can tell. If he was smarter he could pull
off copying the Stern show, but he is about 50 IQ points short.

[Tim Donohoe]

Hoody wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:16:34 -0800, Leslie Moonves' Chicklet Teeth
> <I_lost_caps_in_Julie_Chen's_twat@cbs.com> wrote:
>
>
>>They goddam might as well be. They do and play his show every day. Thanks
>>for the free Stern publicity ---s!!!
>
>
> becuase people who hear Howie lying on XM might subscribe to Sirius.

Or if people hear the clone show online and realize they would prefer
Howard.

> In NYC (home base for both shows) they were on different stations at
> different times (Stern in morning drive, O&A in afternoon drive).
>
> Michael

They both worked for Infinity. That's eating your own. That's bad buisiness.

[KK]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:25:03 +0000, Tim Donohoe wrote:

> Or if people hear the clone show online and realize they would prefer
> Howard.


Do they? Do you find a lot of O&A listeners moving to Stern?

[The Central Scrotinizer]

In article <NwASf.3$KY4.2@fe08.lga>, "Vicki" <vickiwilmont@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> "The Central Scrotinizer" wrote ...
> > I would attack anyone as competition too if they came into my backyard
> > and started ripping my style, THEN had the nuts to talk ---- about my
> > family and I.
>
> Are you familiar with the phrase that history repeats itself.
>
> This is exactly what goblin did to Imus when they were both on NBC. Goblin
> was on in the afternoons and Imus of course was on in the mornings.
>
> Goblin certainly felt that he was the heir apparent and would eventually be
> the morning man when NBC got tired of paying Imus so much money.
>
> Goblin got fired for a stupid bit just like O&A.
>
> He went onto mornings and destroyed Imus.
>
> And this is exactly the reason that Infinity would not allow O&A out of
> their contract when they fired them.
>
> They understood history and realized that O&A would have moved over to Clear
> Channel and destroyed the goblin.
>
> At that time goblin was in the unfunny post jackie - Flounder era and was
> susceptible to any type of actually funny morning show.

Our points of view are different, but results the same. Kill the fuckers
before they become a threat.

--
The Central Scrotinizer

[Boom]

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:03:12 GMT, KK <_KK_@furburger.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:25:03 +0000, Tim Donohoe wrote:
>
>> Or if people hear the clone show online and realize they would prefer
>> Howard.
>
>
>Do they? Do you find a lot of O&A listeners moving to Stern?

Complete bull---- argument, and I'll tell you why. The people who
like Stern have been listening for years. The people who listen to
O&A, unless they lived in one of the 3 or 4 markets that carried them,
had no idea who they were other than the past year and a half where
they are nationally available on XM. Stern is a known quantity and
has a giant fanbase, a very small percentage of which are rejecting
him. O&A's fanbase is basically made up of people who have rejected
Stern for whatever reason. Look at how many O&A fans in here have
said things like, "I used to listen to Howard but now I listen to
O&A." People don't naturally come to the O&A show without having an
opportunity to reject Stern first. So naturally they're not going to
get the churn going from O&A to Stern like someone who's spent 20
years in the spotlight and amassed a huge fan base, a small percentage
of which were bound to become disenchanted.

[Boom]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:07:27 -0600, <Dereck_Barker@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>
>> In NYC (home base for both shows) they were on different stations at
>> different times (Stern in morning drive, O&A in afternoon drive).
>>
>> Michael
>
>They both worked for Infinity. That's eating your own. That's bad buisiness.

No, bad business is running off the guy who makes a fortune for the
company while you only make a little bit. Don't even try to make it
sound like Howard did anything wrong. Those guys were clones,
admitted to it, then shat all over the guy who made it possible for
them to rise above playing 16 records an hour for $30,000 a year.
THAT is bad business. Tell me any different and I'll call you an
idiot of the highest caliber.

[SapperPest19]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:17:52 -0500, "Ernie Joe"
<ernieanastasio@gnospamail.com> wrote:

>"The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions" <the_witchboy@yahooX.com>
>wrote in message news:5fASf.17408$iR1.7249@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>
>> " Velvet" <none@none.com > wrote in message
>> news:Xns9787D7DDE10FC2587985vt@216.77.188.18...
>>
>>> Earlier in the program, Stern addressed O&A by saying, "When I'm in
>> business
>>> with a company and they hire Howard Stern imitators to go on in the
>>> afternoon... I don't want anyone knocking me. I have a plan every time I
>> go
>>> up against people... I analyze the competition and I think about you six
>>> different ways to Sunday. I turned to Mel Karmazin at the time, 'Your two
>>> boys that you hired, who sound identical to me, will implode. I give them
>>> three to four months. They're so desperate to be famous, they are going
>>> to
>> do
>>> something stupid. If they can't talk about me, they're gonna go insane.
>>> Watch.' He laughed since I made other predictions about radio. And I
>> watched
>>> them implode."
>>
>> This is very illustrative of the Hoohoo mentality. O&A worked for the SAME
>> station
>
>But they were nonetheless attacking him on air. They ripped off his act,
>and then tried to rip off his audience, by ripping on him.

A lot of people have said that O&A ripped off stern's act. The only
thing anyone has been able to back that up with is that O&A have a
comedian as a regular on their show and they all talk into the mic.
People say it because stern says they ripped him off, but they cannot
offer anything to back it up.

>It's not like
>they were team players or looking out for the good of the station -- they
>were trying to build themselves up at Howard's expense and Howard blew the
>whistle on them. If I had a coworker who was running me down behind my back
>to our mutual clients, goddam right I would complain to my boss. Think
>about it in terms of your own life -- if the guy running the register kept
>telling the customers that your french fries weren't that good, you would go
>to your boss, right?
>
>> and shared the SAME audience yet he attacked them as "competition."
>
>They weren't interested in sharing -- they were trying to steal howard's
>audience and howard knew their tactics, because he'd done the same thing to
>other shows in other markets. He'd done the same thing to Imus. He knew
>what they were up to because he INVENTED what they were up to -- and are
>still up to.

Now, that is true. They are on at the same time and you are forced to
listen to one or the other. Plus, they are on different satellite
companies. Then, they were on different channels that could be picked
up by the same radio. And they were on at different times.

>> The truth is that he knows the boys are much more talented and funny than
>> he
>> is and, eventually, they would displace him.
>
>Yeah, that's Howard, all right -- he's ALWAYS quick to acknowledge other
>people who he thinks have more talent than him, right? Or are you saying
>that he's not the self-centered egomaniac he appears to be?

He is the self-centered egomaniac he appears to be. That is why he did
what he did. Knowing something and acknowledging it are 2 different
things.

[SapperPest19]

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:02:00 GMT, Boom <mmm@nnn.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:07:27 -0600, <Dereck_Barker@sbcglobal.net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>> In NYC (home base for both shows) they were on different stations at
>>> different times (Stern in morning drive, O&A in afternoon drive).
>>>
>>> Michael
>>
>>They both worked for Infinity. That's eating your own. That's bad buisiness.
>
>No, bad business is running off the guy who makes a fortune for the
>company while you only make a little bit. Don't even try to make it
>sound like Howard did anything wrong. Those guys were clones,
>admitted to it, then shat all over the guy who made it possible for
>them to rise above playing 16 records an hour for $30,000 a year.
>THAT is bad business. Tell me any different and I'll call you an
>idiot of the highest caliber.

I'm going to guess that you live in or around New York. I live in the
south. We did have O&A syndicated here for a while until the --- for
Sam incident. I started listening to them because the radio station
replaced stern with them. I think that's how it went. it was a number
of years ago. Maybe Stern was on another station, I honestly do not
remember. My point is this: I was not around for o&a's start. I can
say that I enjoyed o&a from the beginning because they were fresh
voices instead of the stale crap I was used to hearing if I listened
to stern. You can disagree but that is my opinion. O&A may have been
clones in the beginning. If so, they have moved on to have their own
identity.

[Boom]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:25:26 -0600, SapperPest19 <bob@bob.com> wrote:

>A lot of people have said that O&A ripped off stern's act. The only
>thing anyone has been able to back that up with is that O&A have a
>comedian as a regular on their show and they all talk into the mic.
>People say it because stern says they ripped him off, but they cannot
>offer anything to back it up.

You are insane.

Us:

"Here is a list of stuff they have ripped off:

The entire format
Having a comedian to riff with
Wackbag
Homeless Shopping Spree
Andrew Dice Gay
Whining about other radio show hosts"

You:

"You don't have any proof."

> No, bad business is running off the guy who makes a fortune for the
> company while you only make a little bit. Don't even try to make it
> sound like Howard did anything wrong. Those guys were clones,
> admitted to it, then shat all over the guy who made it possible for
> them to rise above playing 16 records an hour for $30,000 a year.
> THAT is bad business. Tell me any different and I'll call you an
> idiot of the highest caliber.

Same lines, over and over again. Must have that ---- memorized. Damn shame
you don't listen to Opie and Anthony. With your habit of regurgitating the
same redundant lines over and over again, you'd fit right in with the pests.
And by the way, IMUS paved a lot of the way for talk radio, INCLUDING Stern.
So why don't you give us an essay on talk radio history, Boom.

[Boom]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:36:06 -0600, SapperPest19 <bob@bob.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:02:00 GMT, Boom <mmm@nnn.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:07:27 -0600, <Dereck_Barker@sbcglobal.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> In NYC (home base for both shows) they were on different stations at
>>>> different times (Stern in morning drive, O&A in afternoon drive).
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>
>>>They both worked for Infinity. That's eating your own. That's bad buisiness.
>>
>>No, bad business is running off the guy who makes a fortune for the
>>company while you only make a little bit. Don't even try to make it
>>sound like Howard did anything wrong. Those guys were clones,
>>admitted to it, then shat all over the guy who made it possible for
>>them to rise above playing 16 records an hour for $30,000 a year.
>>THAT is bad business. Tell me any different and I'll call you an
>>idiot of the highest caliber.
>
>I'm going to guess that you live in or around New York.

Lived in Central Fla since I was 5.

>I live in the
>south. We did have O&A syndicated here for a while until the --- for
>Sam incident. I started listening to them because the radio station
>replaced stern with them. I think that's how it went. it was a number
>of years ago. Maybe Stern was on another station, I honestly do not
>remember. My point is this: I was not around for o&a's start. I can
>say that I enjoyed o&a from the beginning because they were fresh
>voices instead of the stale crap I was used to hearing if I listened
>to stern. You can disagree but that is my opinion. O&A may have been
>clones in the beginning. If so, they have moved on to have their own
>identity.

If you say so. Hey, you like O&A, I say God bless you. And you're
right...they're no longer clones. They harp and harp on Howard much
more than Howard ever harped on anyone.

[SapperPest19]

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 02:42:54 GMT, Boom <mmm@nnn.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:25:26 -0600, SapperPest19 <bob@bob.com> wrote:
>
>>A lot of people have said that O&A ripped off stern's act. The only
>>thing anyone has been able to back that up with is that O&A have a
>>comedian as a regular on their show and they all talk into the mic.
>>People say it because stern says they ripped him off, but they cannot
>>offer anything to back it up.
>
>You are insane.
>
>Us:
>
>"Here is a list of stuff they have ripped off:
>
>The entire format

People sitting around in a room, talking into mics, broadcasting over
the air. You have a point.

>Having a comedian to riff with

Comedic relief is not something that stern invented.

>Wackbag

Wackpack vs. wackbag? You mean the name? Or are you saying that o&a
ripped stern off since o&a has fans?

>Homeless Shopping Spree

I guess I missed this bit on stern. When did he do a homeless shopping
spree?

>Andrew Dice Gay

Can't find this one anywhere attributed to stern

>Whining about other radio show hosts"

I'm not supposed to take this one serious, am I?

>You:
>
>"You don't have any proof."

[Boom]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:45:24 -0600, <Dereck_Barker@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>
>> No, bad business is running off the guy who makes a fortune for the
>> company while you only make a little bit. Don't even try to make it
>> sound like Howard did anything wrong. Those guys were clones,
>> admitted to it, then shat all over the guy who made it possible for
>> them to rise above playing 16 records an hour for $30,000 a year.
>> THAT is bad business. Tell me any different and I'll call you an
>> idiot of the highest caliber.
>
>Same lines, over and over again. Must have that ---- memorized. Damn shame
>you don't listen to Opie and Anthony. With your habit of regurgitating the
>same redundant lines over and over again, you'd fit right in with the pests.
>And by the way, IMUS paved a lot of the way for talk radio, INCLUDING Stern.

Yeah, Moby Worm was fucking genius, wasn't it?

[Boom]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:50:15 -0600, SapperPest19 <bob@bob.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 02:42:54 GMT, Boom <mmm@nnn.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:25:26 -0600, SapperPest19 <bob@bob.com> wrote:
>>
>>>A lot of people have said that O&A ripped off stern's act. The only
>>>thing anyone has been able to back that up with is that O&A have a
>>>comedian as a regular on their show and they all talk into the mic.
>>>People say it because stern says they ripped him off, but they cannot
>>>offer anything to back it up.
>>
>>You are insane.
>>
>>Us:
>>
>>"Here is a list of stuff they have ripped off:
>>
>>The entire format
>
>People sitting around in a room, talking into mics, broadcasting over
>the air. You have a point.

Ever listen to talk radio before Stern? Of course not. You're too
young. I did. One guy at a mic answering phone calls. No second
person to banter with, no comedy gags, nothing but a guy and phone
calls.

>>Having a comedian to riff with
>
>Comedic relief is not something that stern invented.

How many other talk shows had even a second person to talk to before
Stern? None. It was one guy and the phones.

>>Wackbag
>
>Wackpack vs. wackbag? You mean the name? Or are you saying that o&a
>ripped stern off since o&a has fans?

Well, there's both...the concept of having goofballs and making fun of
them, and the actual name Wack Pack. O&A fans say that Wackbag is a
different concept than the Wack pack, but why would they name anything
associated with their show something so closely resembling something
so associated with Howard? It just so happens that they stole the
concept of having goofballs on the air AND stole the name Wack___ for
a different purpose. They could have called their mail segment
anything but something with the word Wack in it. Fucking dumbasses.

>>Homeless Shopping Spree
>
>I guess I missed this bit on stern. When did he do a homeless shopping
>spree?

It was on one of his early videos. Can't remember which one. Someone
else on here mentioned it. BTW, sorry, I got the name wrong...it was
Homeless Shopping Spree and Makeover.

>>Andrew Dice Gay
>
>Can't find this one anywhere attributed to stern

Of course you can. When Dice and Howard started their feud, Howard
would call him Andrew Dice Gay. Of course, that was 10 years or more
ago, back when Dice was popular. Who knew that O&A would wait until
years later when Dice was completely washed up to turn it into a full
blown bit?

>>Whining about other radio show hosts"
>
>I'm not supposed to take this one serious, am I?

Who else did it before Stern?

[SapperPest19]

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:18:53 GMT, Boom <mmm@nnn.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:50:15 -0600, SapperPest19 <bob@bob.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 02:42:54 GMT, Boom <mmm@nnn.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:25:26 -0600, SapperPest19 <bob@bob.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>A lot of people have said that O&A ripped off stern's act. The only
>>>>thing anyone has been able to back that up with is that O&A have a
>>>>comedian as a regular on their show and they all talk into the mic.
>>>>People say it because stern says they ripped him off, but they cannot
>>>>offer anything to back it up.
>>>
>>>You are insane.
>>>
>>>Us:
>>>
>>>"Here is a list of stuff they have ripped off:
>>>
>>>The entire format
>>
>>People sitting around in a room, talking into mics, broadcasting over
>>the air. You have a point.
>
>Ever listen to talk radio before Stern? Of course not. You're too
>young. I did. One guy at a mic answering phone calls. No second
>person to banter with, no comedy gags, nothing but a guy and phone
>calls.
>
>>>Having a comedian to riff with
>>
>>Comedic relief is not something that stern invented.
>
>How many other talk shows had even a second person to talk to before
>Stern? None. It was one guy and the phones.
>
>>>Wackbag
>>
>>Wackpack vs. wackbag? You mean the name? Or are you saying that o&a
>>ripped stern off since o&a has fans?
>
>Well, there's both...the concept of having goofballs and making fun of
>them, and the actual name Wack Pack. O&A fans say that Wackbag is a
>different concept than the Wack pack, but why would they name anything
>associated with their show something so closely resembling something
>so associated with Howard? It just so happens that they stole the
>concept of having goofballs on the air AND stole the name Wack___ for
>a different purpose. They could have called their mail segment
>anything but something with the word Wack in it. Fucking dumbasses.
>
>>>Homeless Shopping Spree
>>
>>I guess I missed this bit on stern. When did he do a homeless shopping
>>spree?
>
>It was on one of his early videos. Can't remember which one. Someone
>else on here mentioned it. BTW, sorry, I got the name wrong...it was
>Homeless Shopping Spree and Makeover.
>
>>>Andrew Dice Gay
>>
>>Can't find this one anywhere attributed to stern
>
>Of course you can. When Dice and Howard started their feud, Howard
>would call him Andrew Dice Gay. Of course, that was 10 years or more
>ago, back when Dice was popular. Who knew that O&A would wait until
>years later when Dice was completely washed up to turn it into a full
>blown bit?
>
>>>Whining about other radio show hosts"
>>
>>I'm not supposed to take this one serious, am I?
>
>Who else did it before Stern?

Using your logic, Dodge is ripping off Ford because Ford used the
internal combustion engine before Dodge. Too vague of a concept to
claim being ripped off.

As far as Andrew Dice Gay and the Homeless Shopping Spree, I cannot
find any references to stern when I search for these.

Wackbag? Fan clubs were around before stern. The name? No idea. That
name was around since I started listening.

[Boom]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:09:32 -0600, SapperPest19 <bob@bob.com> wrote:

>Using your logic, Dodge is ripping off Ford because Ford used the
>internal combustion engine before Dodge. Too vague of a concept to
>claim being ripped off.

You know what? I think they did.

>As far as Andrew Dice Gay and the Homeless Shopping Spree, I cannot
>find any references to stern when I search for these.

Andrew Dice Gay was a name Stern mentioned in passing.

>Wackbag? Fan clubs were around before stern. The name? No idea. That
>name was around since I started listening.

Couldn't they have named it something so non-similar to Wack Pack? Or
are they intentionally trying to confuse people?

[SapperPest19]

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:20:57 GMT, Boom <mmm@nnn.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:09:32 -0600, SapperPest19 <bob@bob.com> wrote:
>
>>Using your logic, Dodge is ripping off Ford because Ford used the
>>internal combustion engine before Dodge. Too vague of a concept to
>>claim being ripped off.
>
>You know what? I think they did.

Ok...if sirius comes out with a portable unit that can pick up a live
signal, are they ripping off xm?

>>As far as Andrew Dice Gay and the Homeless Shopping Spree, I cannot
>>find any references to stern when I search for these.
>
>Andrew Dice Gay was a name Stern mentioned in passing.

Then I would call that a stretch. Kinda like claiming that
mispronouncing someone's name is a ripoff.

>>Wackbag? Fan clubs were around before stern. The name? No idea. That
>>name was around since I started listening.
>
>Couldn't they have named it something so non-similar to Wack Pack? Or
>are they intentionally trying to confuse people?

Perhaps...I cannot comment on this one.

[joe]

Hoody <hoody@email.com> wrote in news:dfsl1291oigk852c69oto6q77p77pm1dk4
@fe05.buzzardnews.com:

> On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:19:41 -0600, Earl Campbell
> <earl34@thisisfake.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Dear Opie and Anthony Fans:
>>
>>I remember, long ago, when Opie and Anthony started out in Worcester,
>>Massachusetts (and we're fired because they did know when to lighten
>>up). They were practically clones of Howard and not so good at it
>>either.
>
> Please be specific. Which elements were "cloned." How is Bubba NOT a
> clone ? Did Howie wake up one day an realize how talented the
> LoveSponge is ?
>
>>Then they were lucky enough to become syndicated and ended up
>>in Boston, among other stations, on afternoon drive.
>
> Right, they were just lucky. It's not like they got ratings and
> generated money. They were on NYC radio becuase they were a
> successful show.
>
>>I've attempted to listen to their show on XM and I find it going back to
>>the trite nonsense of their Worcester days.
>
> Not like Howie's re-recording 20 year old bits.
>

Hey NOW!
O&A... I had XM the last year or so. Honestly I'm very dissapointed . I
used to love O&A on WNEW in NY before they were fired. But lately... They
haven't done anything funny at all. Used to love the Anthony impressions...
Used to love the prank calls and that sort of stuff. Occassionally the show
is OK... But truthfully... Howard stern is way funnier at this point. Try
listening to a few shows... Really there's no comparison... Howards much
better now. O&A needs to go back and listen to there old stuff. They were
hysterical!

[Boom]

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:02:18 -0600, SapperPest19 <bob@bob.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:20:57 GMT, Boom <mmm@nnn.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:09:32 -0600, SapperPest19 <bob@bob.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Using your logic, Dodge is ripping off Ford because Ford used the
>>>internal combustion engine before Dodge. Too vague of a concept to
>>>claim being ripped off.
>>
>>You know what? I think they did.
>
>Ok...if sirius comes out with a portable unit that can pick up a live
>signal, are they ripping off xm?

I hope not. Who wants a portable that eats batteries and overheats?

>>>As far as Andrew Dice Gay and the Homeless Shopping Spree, I cannot
>>>find any references to stern when I search for these.
>>
>>Andrew Dice Gay was a name Stern mentioned in passing.
>
>Then I would call that a stretch. Kinda like claiming that
>mispronouncing someone's name is a ripoff.

How come O&A can call themselves huge fans and admit that they ripped
off Howard's show but their fans can't?

>>>Wackbag? Fan clubs were around before stern. The name? No idea. That
>>>name was around since I started listening.
>>
>>Couldn't they have named it something so non-similar to Wack Pack? Or
>>are they intentionally trying to confuse people?
>
>Perhaps...I cannot comment on this one.

I can. They're clones.

[Boom]

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:08:51 GMT, joe <joejoe2525222@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Hey NOW!
>O&A... I had XM the last year or so. Honestly I'm very dissapointed . I
>used to love O&A on WNEW in NY before they were fired. But lately... They
>haven't done anything funny at all. Used to love the Anthony impressions...
>Used to love the prank calls and that sort of stuff. Occassionally the show
>is OK... But truthfully... Howard stern is way funnier at this point. Try
>listening to a few shows... Really there's no comparison... Howards much
>better now. O&A needs to go back and listen to there old stuff. They were
>hysterical!

If you say so. I've yet to hear one funny thing they've done, but
that's not why I wrote. Call XM and tell them you're cancelling
because you're getting Sirius instead and they'll give you a year of
XM for $3 a month, and they may even throw in a free radio.

[SapperPest19]

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:16:50 GMT, Boom <mmm@nnn.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:02:18 -0600, SapperPest19 <bob@bob.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:20:57 GMT, Boom <mmm@nnn.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:09:32 -0600, SapperPest19 <bob@bob.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Using your logic, Dodge is ripping off Ford because Ford used the
>>>>internal combustion engine before Dodge. Too vague of a concept to
>>>>claim being ripped off.
>>>
>>>You know what? I think they did.
>>
>>Ok...if sirius comes out with a portable unit that can pick up a live
>>signal, are they ripping off xm?
>
>I hope not. Who wants a portable that eats batteries and overheats?

Way to avoid the question. I'll take that as a yes. My MyFi does
neither. The original battery had a problem but replacements were sent
out. I received a replacement without having to request one.

>>>>As far as Andrew Dice Gay and the Homeless Shopping Spree, I cannot
>>>>find any references to stern when I search for these.
>>>
>>>Andrew Dice Gay was a name Stern mentioned in passing.
>>
>>Then I would call that a stretch. Kinda like claiming that
>>mispronouncing someone's name is a ripoff.
>
>How come O&A can call themselves huge fans and admit that they ripped
>off Howard's show but their fans can't?

I must have missed that show.

>>>>Wackbag? Fan clubs were around before stern. The name? No idea. That
>>>>name was around since I started listening.
>>>
>>>Couldn't they have named it something so non-similar to Wack Pack? Or
>>>are they intentionally trying to confuse people?
>>
>>Perhaps...I cannot comment on this one.
>
>I can. They're clones.

Now the fans are clones too. Nice.

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[Tim Donohoe]

KK wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:25:03 +0000, Tim Donohoe wrote:
>
>
>>Or if people hear the clone show online and realize they would prefer
>>Howard.
>
>
>
> Do they? Do you find a lot of O&A listeners moving to Stern?

I don't really find anything but it is another option.

[Tim Donohoe]

SapperPest19 wrote:

>
>
> A lot of people have said that O&A ripped off stern's act. The only
> thing anyone has been able to back that up with is that O&A have a
> comedian as a regular on their show and they all talk into the mic.
> People say it because stern says they ripped him off, but they cannot
> offer anything to back it up.
>

A lot of people still say it, and it is true. They do a copy of Stern's
show. All you need to do is listen and you can see for yourself that
they do the same act Stern has been doing for 25 years.

[Tim Donohoe]

SapperPest19 wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:02:00 GMT, Boom <mmm@nnn.com> wrote:
>
>
>>On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:07:27 -0600, <Dereck_Barker@sbcglobal.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>In NYC (home base for both shows) they were on different stations at
>>>>different times (Stern in morning drive, O&A in afternoon drive).
>>>>
>>>>Michael
>>>
>>>They both worked for Infinity. That's eating your own. That's bad buisiness.
>>
>>No, bad business is running off the guy who makes a fortune for the
>>company while you only make a little bit. Don't even try to make it
>>sound like Howard did anything wrong. Those guys were clones,
>>admitted to it, then shat all over the guy who made it possible for
>>them to rise above playing 16 records an hour for $30,000 a year.
>>THAT is bad business. Tell me any different and I'll call you an
>>idiot of the highest caliber.
>
>
> I'm going to guess that you live in or around New York. I live in the
> south. We did have O&A syndicated here for a while until the --- for
> Sam incident. I started listening to them because the radio station
> replaced stern with them. I think that's how it went. it was a number
> of years ago. Maybe Stern was on another station, I honestly do not
> remember. My point is this: I was not around for o&a's start. I can
> say that I enjoyed o&a from the beginning because they were fresh
> voices instead of the stale crap I was used to hearing if I listened
> to stern. You can disagree but that is my opinion. O&A may have been
> clones in the beginning. If so, they have moved on to have their own
> identity.

Yes we believe that you didn't even know if Stern was on the radio yet
you knew he was doing stale crap. You can have an opinion without
backing it up with lies.

[Michael]

Vicki wrote:

> "The Central Scrotinizer" wrote ...
>
>>I would attack anyone as competition too if they came into my backyard
>>and started ripping my style, THEN had the nuts to talk ---- about my
>>family and I.
>
>
> Are you familiar with the phrase that history repeats itself.
>
> This is exactly what goblin did to Imus when they were both on NBC. Goblin
> was on in the afternoons and Imus of course was on in the mornings.
>
> Goblin certainly felt that he was the heir apparent and would eventually be
> the morning man when NBC got tired of paying Imus so much money.
>
> Goblin got fired for a stupid bit just like O&A.

What bit did Hmus get canned over?

Michael

[Michael]

'The Real' Evil ---- Cheney wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:24:26 -0500, Vicki wrote:
>
>
>>"The Central Scrotinizer" wrote ...
>>
>>>I would attack anyone as competition too if they came into my backyard
>>>and started ripping my style, THEN had the nuts to talk ---- about my
>>>family and I.
>>
>>Are you familiar with the phrase that history repeats itself.
>>
>>This is exactly what goblin did to Imus when they were both on NBC. Goblin
>>was on in the afternoons and Imus of course was on in the mornings.
>>
>>Goblin certainly felt that he was the heir apparent and would eventually be
>>the morning man when NBC got tired of paying Imus so much money.
>>
>>Goblin got fired for a stupid bit just like O&A.
>>
>>He went onto mornings and destroyed Imus.
>>
>>And this is exactly the reason that Infinity would not allow O&A out of
>>their contract when they fired them.
>>
>>They understood history and realized that O&A would have moved over to Clear
>>Channel and destroyed the goblin.
>>
>>At that time goblin was in the unfunny post jackie - Flounder era and was
>>susceptible to any type of actually funny morning show.
>
>
> Jackie was never funny. Jackie was more interesting/observational, but it
> would be wrong, wrong, wrong to ever claim that Jackie was funny. Jackie
> was the parallel universe version of funny. Jackie was a big black hole of
> "non-funny". Jackie would inappriately laugh at stuff that wasn't funny,
> making it truly awkward, embarrassing and incredibly unfunny. How Jackie
> ever got on that show, I have no idea. Interesting he was (at times). To
> me, Jackie was easily one of the most unfunny people I've ever heard. A
> guy who desperately TRIED to be funny, but failed miserably every time.
> Artie's funny. Stern's funny when he's in a funny mood. These guys are
> genuinely funny. Jackie funny? As Jon Stewart would say......"Not so much."

And that's why Stern stopped being so quick-witted with the departure of
Jackie.

Michael

[Michael]

Ernie Joe wrote:

> "The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions" <the_witchboy@yahooX.com>
> wrote in message news:5fASf.17408$iR1.7249@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
>>" Velvet" <none@none.com > wrote in message
>>news:Xns9787D7DDE10FC2587985vt@216.77.188.18...
>>
>>
>>>Earlier in the program, Stern addressed O&A by saying, "When I'm in
>>
>>business
>>
>>>with a company and they hire Howard Stern imitators to go on in the
>>>afternoon... I don't want anyone knocking me. I have a plan every time I
>>
>>go
>>
>>>up against people... I analyze the competition and I think about you six
>>>different ways to Sunday. I turned to Mel Karmazin at the time, 'Your two
>>>boys that you hired, who sound identical to me, will implode. I give them
>>>three to four months. They're so desperate to be famous, they are going
>>>to
>>
>>do
>>
>>>something stupid. If they can't talk about me, they're gonna go insane.
>>>Watch.' He laughed since I made other predictions about radio. And I
>>
>>watched
>>
>>>them implode."
>>
>>This is very illustrative of the Hoohoo mentality. O&A worked for the SAME
>>station
>
>
> But they were nonetheless attacking him on air. They ripped off his act,
> and then tried to rip off his audience, by ripping on him.

How do you rip off the audience of a show that airs at a completely
different time of day?

> They weren't interested in sharing -- they were trying to steal howard's
> audience

I gotta ask again: How do you steal the audience of a show that airs at
a completely different time of the day?

> and howard knew their tactics, because he'd done the same thing to
> other shows in other markets. He'd done the same thing to Imus. He knew
> what they were up to because he INVENTED what they were up to -- and are
> still up to.

So Stern tried to stop the "comes around" part of "what goes around
comes around".

>>The truth is that he knows the boys are much more talented and funny than
>>he
>>is and, eventually, they would displace him.
>
>
> Yeah, that's Howard, all right -- he's ALWAYS quick to acknowledge other
> people who he thinks have more talent than him, right? Or are you saying
> that he's not the self-centered egomaniac he appears to be?

Just because someone knows that there are people more talented than they
are doesn't mean they aren't an raving egomaniac.

Michael

[Michael]

Dereck_Barker@sbcglobal.net wrote:

>>In NYC (home base for both shows) they were on different stations at
>>different times (Stern in morning drive, O&A in afternoon drive).
>>
>>Michael
>
>
> They both worked for Infinity. That's eating your own. That's bad buisiness.

Some would say a DJ feud is good for business, even one that's made up.

Michael

[Tim Donohoe]

Michael wrote:

> Vicki wrote:
>
>> "The Central Scrotinizer" wrote ...
>>
>>> I would attack anyone as competition too if they came into my backyard
>>> and started ripping my style, THEN had the nuts to talk ---- about my
>>> family and I.
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you familiar with the phrase that history repeats itself.
>>
>> This is exactly what goblin did to Imus when they were both on NBC.
>> Goblin was on in the afternoons and Imus of course was on in the
>> mornings.
>>
>> Goblin certainly felt that he was the heir apparent and would
>> eventually be the morning man when NBC got tired of paying Imus so
>> much money.
>>
>> Goblin got fired for a stupid bit just like O&A.
>
>
> What bit did Hmus get canned over?
>
> Michael

Not sure, but I think it was Das Luv Buut

[SevenSomething]

>... But truthfully... Howard stern is way ***GAYER*** at this point. Try
>listening to a few shows... Really there's no comparison...

TOO MUCH MAN ---/NAKEDNESS

[Boom]

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:10:32 -0800, Michael <jandm16@charter.net>
wrote:

>Dereck_Barker@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>>>In NYC (home base for both shows) they were on different stations at
>>>different times (Stern in morning drive, O&A in afternoon drive).
>>>
>>>Michael
>>
>>
>> They both worked for Infinity. That's eating your own. That's bad buisiness.
>
>Some would say a DJ feud is good for business, even one that's made up.

It's not good for business if the DJ making all the money leaves
because you didn't shut down the DJ's making a little money.

[SapperPest19]

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 15:49:15 GMT, Tim Donohoe <tdonohoe@aol.com>
wrote:

>SapperPest19 wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:02:00 GMT, Boom <mmm@nnn.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:07:27 -0600, <Dereck_Barker@sbcglobal.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>In NYC (home base for both shows) they were on different stations at
>>>>>different times (Stern in morning drive, O&A in afternoon drive).
>>>>>
>>>>>Michael
>>>>
>>>>They both worked for Infinity. That's eating your own. That's bad buisiness.
>>>
>>>No, bad business is running off the guy who makes a fortune for the
>>>company while you only make a little bit. Don't even try to make it
>>>sound like Howard did anything wrong. Those guys were clones,
>>>admitted to it, then shat all over the guy who made it possible for
>>>them to rise above playing 16 records an hour for $30,000 a year.
>>>THAT is bad business. Tell me any different and I'll call you an
>>>idiot of the highest caliber.
>>
>>
>> I'm going to guess that you live in or around New York. I live in the
>> south. We did have O&A syndicated here for a while until the --- for
>> Sam incident. I started listening to them because the radio station
>> replaced stern with them. I think that's how it went. it was a number
>> of years ago. Maybe Stern was on another station, I honestly do not
>> remember. My point is this: I was not around for o&a's start. I can
>> say that I enjoyed o&a from the beginning because they were fresh
>> voices instead of the stale crap I was used to hearing if I listened
>> to stern. You can disagree but that is my opinion. O&A may have been
>> clones in the beginning. If so, they have moved on to have their own
>> identity.
>
>Yes we believe that you didn't even know if Stern was on the radio yet
>you knew he was doing stale crap. You can have an opinion without
>backing it up with lies.

Let me try to explain it like you are 8 years old. At some point in
history, one of the local radio stations pick up O&A. They either
replaced stern on that channel or they complimented him on another
channel. I do not remember what happened to stern after that point in
history. I do remember that the time I tried to listen to stern before
that time in history I did not find him too entertaining. When I heard
o&a, they were fresh voices instead of the stale crap I was used to
hearing if I listened to stern.

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In article <vmko12ldtt99kd89e9prg9jpv5cdiurk4a@4ax.com>,
SevenSomething <SevenSomething@Hotmail.com> wrote:

> >... But truthfully... Howard stern is way ***GAYER*** at this point. Try
> >listening to a few shows... Really there's no comparison...
>
> TOO MUCH MAN ---/NAKEDNESS

The Stern Show is definitely not for those who are insecure with their
---uality.

--
The Central Scrotinizer

[The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions]

"joe" <joejoe2525222@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns978ABAFF723Fjoejoe2525222hotmail@69.28.186.158...
> Hoody <hoody@email.com> wrote in news:dfsl1291oigk852c69oto6q77p77pm1dk4
> @fe05.buzzardnews.com:
>
> > On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:19:41 -0600, Earl Campbell
> > <earl34@thisisfake.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Dear Opie and Anthony Fans:
> >>
> >>I remember, long ago, when Opie and Anthony started out in Worcester,
> >>Massachusetts (and we're fired because they did know when to lighten
> >>up). They were practically clones of Howard and not so good at it
> >>either.
> >
> > Please be specific. Which elements were "cloned." How is Bubba NOT a
> > clone ? Did Howie wake up one day an realize how talented the
> > LoveSponge is ?
> >
> >>Then they were lucky enough to become syndicated and ended up
> >>in Boston, among other stations, on afternoon drive.
> >
> > Right, they were just lucky. It's not like they got ratings and
> > generated money. They were on NYC radio becuase they were a
> > successful show.
> >
> >>I've attempted to listen to their show on XM and I find it going back to
> >>the trite nonsense of their Worcester days.
> >
> > Not like Howie's re-recording 20 year old bits.
> >
>
> Hey NOW!
> O&A... I had XM the last year or so. Honestly I'm very dissapointed . I
> used to love O&A on WNEW in NY before they were fired. But lately... They
> haven't done anything funny at all. Used to love the Anthony
impressions...
> Used to love the prank calls and that sort of stuff. Occassionally the
show
> is OK... But truthfully... Howard stern is way funnier at this point. Try
> listening to a few shows... Really there's no comparison... Howards much
> better now. O&A needs to go back and listen to there old stuff. They were
> hysterical!

Take your XM radio, flush it down the toilet, and go fuck your mother

--
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O&A always win in the end
Hoohoo always whines in the end

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"The Central Scrotinizer" <mudshark@edgewater.com> wrote in message
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> The Stern Show is definitely not for those who are insecure with their
> homo---uality.

You got that right, Central Scrotumlicker

--
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O&A always win in the end
Hoohoo always whines in the end

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"Ernie Joe" <ernieanastasio@gnospamail.com> wrote in message
news:441b1a3a$0$1834$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...

> But they were nonetheless attacking him on air. They ripped off his act,

How did they rip off his act?
And forget that "they both talk into microphones" level argument

--
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O&A always win in the end
Hoohoo always whines in the end

[The Central Scrotinizer]

In article <ifkTf.29597$ty4.14484@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
"The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions"
<the_witchboy@yahooX.com> wrote:

> "The Central Scrotinizer" <mudshark@edgewater.com> wrote in message
> news:mudshark-5EB4B7.12473118032006@news.giganews.com...
>
> > The Stern Show is definitely not for those who are insecure with their
> > homo---uality.
>
> You got that right, Central Scrotumlicker

Just because you've got cock on the brain, doesn't make it okay to edit
my posts. It gets old, like your douche bag.

FYI the original said "insecure with their ---uality".

--
The Central Scrotinizer

[lab~rat >:-)]

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:37:36 -0800, 'The Real' Evil ---- Cheney
<evil_----@heart_attack_on_a_stick.com> puked:

>On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:24:26 -0500, Vicki wrote:
>
>> "The Central Scrotinizer" wrote ...
>>> I would attack anyone as competition too if they came into my backyard
>>> and started ripping my style, THEN had the nuts to talk ---- about my
>>> family and I.
>>
>> Are you familiar with the phrase that history repeats itself.
>>
>> This is exactly what goblin did to Imus when they were both on NBC. Goblin
>> was on in the afternoons and Imus of course was on in the mornings.
>>
>> Goblin certainly felt that he was the heir apparent and would eventually be
>> the morning man when NBC got tired of paying Imus so much money.
>>
>> Goblin got fired for a stupid bit just like O&A.
>>
>> He went onto mornings and destroyed Imus.
>>
>> And this is exactly the reason that Infinity would not allow O&A out of
>> their contract when they fired them.
>>
>> They understood history and realized that O&A would have moved over to Clear
>> Channel and destroyed the goblin.
>>
>> At that time goblin was in the unfunny post jackie - Flounder era and was
>> susceptible to any type of actually funny morning show.
>
>Jackie was never funny. Jackie was more interesting/observational, but it
>would be wrong, wrong, wrong to ever claim that Jackie was funny. Jackie
>was the parallel universe version of funny. Jackie was a big black hole of
>"non-funny". Jackie would inappriately laugh at stuff that wasn't funny,
>making it truly awkward, embarrassing and incredibly unfunny. How Jackie
>ever got on that show, I have no idea. Interesting he was (at times). To
>me, Jackie was easily one of the most unfunny people I've ever heard. A
>guy who desperately TRIED to be funny, but failed miserably every time.
>Artie's funny. Stern's funny when he's in a funny mood. These guys are
>genuinely funny. Jackie funny? As Jon Stewart would say......"Not so much."
>

Jackie's act wasn't funny, but he brought funny to the show.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

[Boom]

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 13:27:58 GMT, "lab~rat >:-)" <chase@cheeze.net>
wrote:

>>Jackie was never funny. Jackie was more interesting/observational, but it
>>would be wrong, wrong, wrong to ever claim that Jackie was funny. Jackie
>>was the parallel universe version of funny. Jackie was a big black hole of
>>"non-funny". Jackie would inappriately laugh at stuff that wasn't funny,
>>making it truly awkward, embarrassing and incredibly unfunny. How Jackie
>>ever got on that show, I have no idea. Interesting he was (at times). To
>>me, Jackie was easily one of the most unfunny people I've ever heard. A
>>guy who desperately TRIED to be funny, but failed miserably every time.
>>Artie's funny. Stern's funny when he's in a funny mood. These guys are
>>genuinely funny. Jackie funny? As Jon Stewart would say......"Not so much."
>>
>Jackie's act wasn't funny, but he brought funny to the show.

Only the pathetic "Boy, what a douchebag Jackie is with his products
and his goofy wife" funny. Otherwise he's not funny at all.

[Hoody]

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:54:16 GMT, Boom <mmm@nnn.com> wrote:
kie's act wasn't funny, but he brought funny to the show.

>Only the pathetic "Boy, what a douchebag Jackie is with his products
>and his goofy wife" funny. Otherwise he's not funny at all.

From you, the arbiter of good taste.

[KK]

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:28:35 +0000, Boom wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:03:12 GMT, KK <_KK_@furburger.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:25:03 +0000, Tim Donohoe wrote:
>>
>>> Or if people hear the clone show online and realize they would prefer
>>> Howard.
>>
>>
>>Do they? Do you find a lot of O&A listeners moving to Stern?
>
> Complete bull---- argument, and I'll tell you why. The people who
> like Stern have been listening for years.

Right. Lots of them, like me, have chosen O&A over him.



> The people who listen to
> O&A, unless they lived in one of the 3 or 4 markets that carried them,


They were on more than "3 or 4 markets", silly. Keep downplaying their
audience, their syndication, their ratings. Maybe you're convincing
yourself that they don't matter, but you don't seem really hard to
convince.

You're certainly not convincing the rest of us.


> Stern is a known quantity and
> has a giant fanbase,

Giant and shrinking. What's the argument now - if he even brought a
million subs to Sirius? Let's say he *did*. Let's say he brought
*double* that, just for argument's sake. That's still only 1/10 of his
"giant fanbase" (even less according to his own inflated numbers). Yeah,
some real loyalty there.


> a very small percentage of which are rejecting
> him.

90% isn't "a very small percentage".



> O&A's fanbase is basically made up of people who have rejected
> Stern for whatever reason.


So, your big revelation is that people that listen to O&A are people who
like listening to O&A. Wow - you see things so clearly.

> Look at how many O&A fans in here have
> said things like, "I used to listen to Howard but now I listen to
> O&A."

Right. We've upgraded.

[Boom]

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:03:32 GMT, KK <_KK_@furburger.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:28:35 +0000, Boom wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:03:12 GMT, KK <_KK_@furburger.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:25:03 +0000, Tim Donohoe wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or if people hear the clone show online and realize they would prefer
>>>> Howard.
>>>
>>>
>>>Do they? Do you find a lot of O&A listeners moving to Stern?
>>
>> Complete bull---- argument, and I'll tell you why. The people who
>> like Stern have been listening for years.
>
>Right. Lots of them, like me, have chosen O&A over him.

More like a few, but whatever.

>> The people who listen to
>> O&A, unless they lived in one of the 3 or 4 markets that carried them,
>
>
>They were on more than "3 or 4 markets", silly. Keep downplaying their
>audience, their syndication, their ratings. Maybe you're convincing
>yourself that they don't matter, but you don't seem really hard to
>convince.
>
>You're certainly not convincing the rest of us.

Oh, I'm sure they matter greatly to you. Just not most of the free
world.

>> Stern is a known quantity and
>> has a giant fanbase,
>
>Giant and shrinking. What's the argument now - if he even brought a
>million subs to Sirius? Let's say he *did*. Let's say he brought
>*double* that, just for argument's sake. That's still only 1/10 of his
>"giant fanbase" (even less according to his own inflated numbers). Yeah,
>some real loyalty there.

Well after today's announcement that Sirius is over 4 million now,
there's no question that he brought well over a million, probably
closer to 3 million. Regardless of how you want to spin the numbers,
that's well over enough to pay for himself. But yes, his hardcore
fanbase is down from what it used to be on free radio. No doubt about
it. But some are waiting for a true portable, some are waiting for
internet streaming, some just simply don't feel that they should have
to pay for it. Big deal...he's still drawn way more subs by himself
than anyone else on the market.

>> a very small percentage of which are rejecting
>> him.
>
>90% isn't "a very small percentage".

Are they rejecting him or the technology? Some are indeed rejecting
him. But again, name one single show that's brought more subs to
satellite than him.

>> O&A's fanbase is basically made up of people who have rejected
>> Stern for whatever reason.
>
>So, your big revelation is that people that listen to O&A are people who
>like listening to O&A. Wow - you see things so clearly.

Wow, you really got me there, didn't you? Yes, I suppose you are
right. People who listen to O&A like listening to O&A. Don't ask me
why, but I guess they do.

>> Look at how many O&A fans in here have
>> said things like, "I used to listen to Howard but now I listen to
>> O&A."
>
>Right. We've upgraded.

Upgraded from a funny show to an unfunny show? OK, whatever you say.

[Buzzer]

Boom <mmm@nnn.com> wrote in news:77st12l4a82hfau3h7u82h32bo2v5bm1ej@
4ax.com:

> , probably
> closer to 3 million.

puff puff pass jimmy puff puff pass.

[misty]

In article <dfsl1291oigk852c69oto6q77p77pm1dk4@fe05.buzzardnews.com>,
hoody@email.com says...
> On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:19:41 -0600, Earl Campbell
> <earl34@thisisfake.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Dear Opie and Anthony Fans:
> >
> >I remember, long ago, when Opie and Anthony started out in Worcester,
> >Massachusetts (and we're fired because they did know when to lighten
> >up). They were practically clones of Howard and not so good at it
> >either.
>
> Please be specific. Which elements were "cloned." How is Bubba NOT a
> clone ? Did Howie wake up one day an realize how talented the
> LoveSponge is ?
'Cloned elements'--how about the whole format. First hour talk about
what you did the day before and what's going on in current events, bitch
about your latest pet peeve. Second and third hours have guests (and
ask them provocative questions) or do outrageous bits or play phony
phone calls. Last hour recap the day, and maybe do some news. This is
O&A's MO and they basically ripped it from Stern. And I guess I
wouldn't have a problem with it, if O&A and their fans weren't so hung
up with Stern. You know, they don't even compete against each other,
but you flies have a hard-on for Stern.

BTW--You'll get no argument for me on the Bubba show. I am not a fan,
and I think Howard's a hypocrite, because he was critical of the guy in
the past. I am not a fan of everything Stern does. I think the toilet
humor and some of the other ---- take away from his interviews and
observations on what's happening in the world. There were times last
fall that I was prepared to stop listening to the guy, because it became
so base and unintelligent. But I think he's rebounded a bit on Sirius.
If anything, it allows Artie to freelance more and he's a funny
motherfucker.

> Then they were lucky enough to become syndicated and ended up
> >in Boston, among other stations, on afternoon drive.
>
> Right, they were just lucky. It's not like they got ratings and
> generated money. They were on NYC radio becuase they were a
> successful show.

They were a lucky. They never owned any share of the market when they
were in Worcester (by the way the station they were on had a strong
signal and could be heard in most of Eastern Massachusetts). They had a
cultish following, but never carried #1 in their market. They were
lucky in that Mel Karmazin took a shine to them and thought they would
work. They were hardly a proven commodity. Getting on Infinity gave
them some clout and their guests became better. The show was definitely
better when they moved to Infinity. Their guests were top-notch too.
So they were able to ramp it up with resources.

> >I've attempted to listen to their show on XM and I find it going back to
> >the trite nonsense of their Worcester days.
>
> Not like Howie's re-recording 20 year old bits.

Again, I am not a big fan of everything Stern does, and freely admit it.
I agree that doing the old bits was a reach. I could do without it.

I have Direct TV and get O&A free as part of their digital music
package. I've tried to listen, but it's really boring. I've downloaded
the show and same thing. It reminds me of their Worcester days in that
the entire show depends a lot on the two guys and I don't think either
is capable enough. Hell, if it were just Stern and Fred, I'd probably
be bored by that too.


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[Hoody]

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:28:09 GMT, Boom <mmm@nnn.com> wrote:


>Well after today's announcement that Sirius is over 4 million now,
>there's no question that he brought well over a million, probably
>closer to 3 million.

Wrong. Don't forget those empty cars !

[Michael]

Boom wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:03:32 GMT, KK <_KK_@furburger.net> wrote:
>
>
>>On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:28:35 +0000, Boom wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:03:12 GMT, KK <_KK_@furburger.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:25:03 +0000, Tim Donohoe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Or if people hear the clone show online and realize they would prefer
>>>>>Howard.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Do they? Do you find a lot of O&A listeners moving to Stern?
>>>
>>>Complete bull---- argument, and I'll tell you why. The people who
>>>like Stern have been listening for years.
>>
>>Right. Lots of them, like me, have chosen O&A over him.
>
>
> More like a few, but whatever.
>
>
>>>The people who listen to
>>>O&A, unless they lived in one of the 3 or 4 markets that carried them,
>>
>>
>>They were on more than "3 or 4 markets", silly. Keep downplaying their
>>audience, their syndication, their ratings. Maybe you're convincing
>>yourself that they don't matter, but you don't seem really hard to
>>convince.
>>
>>You're certainly not convincing the rest of us.
>
>
> Oh, I'm sure they matter greatly to you. Just not most of the free
> world.
>
>
>>> Stern is a known quantity and
>>>has a giant fanbase,
>>
>>Giant and shrinking. What's the argument now - if he even brought a
>>million subs to Sirius? Let's say he *did*. Let's say he brought
>>*double* that, just for argument's sake. That's still only 1/10 of his
>>"giant fanbase" (even less according to his own inflated numbers). Yeah,
>>some real loyalty there.
>
>
> Well after today's announcement that Sirius is over 4 million now,
> there's no question that he brought well over a million, probably
> closer to 3 million.

Based on what Sirius' number of subs was when Stern announced the jump,
doesn't that "closer to 3 million" start to go into the unsold cars
demographic?

Seriously the "Stern's brought in close to 3 million of the 4 millikon
listeners Sirius currently has" is the biggest pile of dung I've seen in
a while.

Michael

[Michael]

Hoody wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:28:09 GMT, Boom <mmm@nnn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Well after today's announcement that Sirius is over 4 million now,
>>there's no question that he brought well over a million, probably
>>closer to 3 million.
>
>
> Wrong. Don't forget those empty cars !

We all know people will buy cars specifically so they can hear Stern!

Michael

[Hoody]

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:03:50 -0800, Michael <jandm16@charter.net>
wrote:

>Based on what Sirius' number of subs was when Stern announced the jump,
>doesn't that "closer to 3 million" start to go into the unsold cars
>demographic?
>
>Seriously the "Stern's brought in close to 3 million of the 4 millikon
>listeners Sirius currently has" is the biggest pile of dung I've seen in
>a while.

Sirius counts unsold cars as subscriptions
Sirius signs a new car deal
Magiaclly they get over the 4 million mark.
Coincidence ?

Is this the revolution ?

[Hoody]

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:03:50 -0800, Michael <jandm16@charter.net>
wrote:

>Seriously the "Stern's brought in close to 3 million of the 4 millikon
>listeners Sirius currently has" is the biggest pile of dung I've seen in
>a while.

Doesn't say much for the quailty of Sirius content or their ability to
attract non-Howie subscribers.

[The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions]

"The Central Scrotinizer" <mudshark@edgewater.com> wrote in message
news:mudshark-7C3511.14420519032006@news.giganews.com...
> In article <ifkTf.29597$ty4.14484@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
> "The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions"
> <the_witchboy@yahooX.com> wrote:
>
> > "The Central Scrotinizer" <mudshark@edgewater.com> wrote in message
> > news:mudshark-5EB4B7.12473118032006@news.giganews.com...
> >
> > > The Stern Show is definitely not for those who are insecure with their
> > > homo---uality.
> >
> > You got that right, Central Scrotumlicker
>
> Just because you've got s huge cock doesn't make it okay to edit
> my posts. It gets old like my douche bag.
>

Yes it does

> FYI the original said "insecure with their homo---uality".

We know. We read it

--
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Hoohoo always whines in the end

[Boom]

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:03:50 -0800, Michael <jandm16@charter.net>
wrote:

>Boom wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:03:32 GMT, KK <_KK_@furburger.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:28:35 +0000, Boom wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:03:12 GMT, KK <_KK_@furburger.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:25:03 +0000, Tim Donohoe wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Or if people hear the clone show online and realize they would prefer
>>>>>>Howard.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Do they? Do you find a lot of O&A listeners moving to Stern?
>>>>
>>>>Complete bull---- argument, and I'll tell you why. The people who
>>>>like Stern have been listening for years.
>>>
>>>Right. Lots of them, like me, have chosen O&A over him.
>>
>>
>> More like a few, but whatever.
>>
>>
>>>>The people who listen to
>>>>O&A, unless they lived in one of the 3 or 4 markets that carried them,
>>>
>>>
>>>They were on more than "3 or 4 markets", silly. Keep downplaying their
>>>audience, their syndication, their ratings. Maybe you're convincing
>>>yourself that they don't matter, but you don't seem really hard to
>>>convince.
>>>
>>>You're certainly not convincing the rest of us.
>>
>>
>> Oh, I'm sure they matter greatly to you. Just not most of the free
>> world.
>>
>>
>>>> Stern is a known quantity and
>>>>has a giant fanbase,
>>>
>>>Giant and shrinking. What's the argument now - if he even brought a
>>>million subs to Sirius? Let's say he *did*. Let's say he brought
>>>*double* that, just for argument's sake. That's still only 1/10 of his
>>>"giant fanbase" (even less according to his own inflated numbers). Yeah,
>>>some real loyalty there.
>>
>>
>> Well after today's announcement that Sirius is over 4 million now,
>> there's no question that he brought well over a million, probably
>> closer to 3 million.
>
>Based on what Sirius' number of subs was when Stern announced the jump,
>doesn't that "closer to 3 million" start to go into the unsold cars
>demographic?
>
>Seriously the "Stern's brought in close to 3 million of the 4 millikon
>listeners Sirius currently has" is the biggest pile of dung I've seen in
>a while.

Prove me wrong.

[Hoody]

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:48:55 GMT, Boom <mmm@nnn.com> wrote:

>Prove me wrong.

Prove that your kids will not be failures since you spent their
college money on Sirius stock.

[The Central Scrotinizer]

In article <vNETf.29706$ty4.23050@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
"The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions"
<the_witchboy@yahooX.com> wrote:

> "The Central Scrotinizer" <mudshark@edgewater.com> wrote in message
> news:mudshark-7C3511.14420519032006@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <ifkTf.29597$ty4.14484@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
> > "The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions"
> > <the_witchboy@yahooX.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "The Central Scrotinizer" <mudshark@edgewater.com> wrote in message
> > > news:mudshark-5EB4B7.12473118032006@news.giganews.com...
> > >
> > > > The Stern Show is definitely not for those who are insecure with their
> > > > homo---uality.
> > >
> > > You got that right, Central Scrotumlicker
> >
> > Just because you've got s huge cock doesn't make it okay to edit
> > my posts. It gets old like my douche bag.
> >
>
> Yes it does
>
> > FYI the original said "insecure with their homo---uality".
>
> We know. We read it

I'll take that as a victory. You can't stand on truth and logic, so you
must alter my posts when you respond.

--
The Central Scrotinizer

[Ricky Ticket]

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:48:55 -0500, Boom wrote
(in message <aacu129vequg3qvke4k1qrk85s24mj8i4u@4ax.com>):

>>> Well after today's announcement that Sirius is over 4 million now,
>>> there's no question that he brought well over a million, probably
>>> closer to 3 million.
>>
>> Based on what Sirius' number of subs was when Stern announced the jump,
>> doesn't that "closer to 3 million" start to go into the unsold cars
>> demographic?
>>
>> Seriously the "Stern's brought in close to 3 million of the 4 millikon
>> listeners Sirius currently has" is the biggest pile of dung I've seen in
>> a while.
>
> Prove me wrong.

He just did dufus. :D

You also impeached your own credibility long ago by showing your willingness
to lie and manipulate (poorly) to ease your embarrassment related to Sterns
constant failures. :o)

Usenet chew toy says what? :D

--
"I'm totally with Boom and though I wouldn't invite him to Sunday dinner at
my church, he ended up proving everything he said and all you guys who didn't
like what he said could do is make up stuff in retaliation."
--django12x@aol.com (AKA Boom)

[Hoody]

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:17:09 GMT, Ricky Ticket <not@given.com> wrote:

>>> Seriously the "Stern's brought in close to 3 million of the 4 millikon
>>> listeners Sirius currently has" is the biggest pile of dung I've seen in
>>> a while.
>>
>> Prove me wrong.
>
>He just did dufus. :D
>
>You also impeached your own credibility long ago by showing your willingness
>to lie and manipulate (poorly) to ease your embarrassment related to Sterns
>constant failures. :o)

Rememeber his entire defense of Stern is that he spent his kids
college money on Sirius stock. 7000 shares when they were 9 bucks. He
NEEDS Howie to succeed so his kids do not end up being washed up
failures and doo wop musicians like him, in the gutter.

[Michael]

Boom wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:03:50 -0800, Michael <jandm16@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Boom wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:03:32 GMT, KK <_KK_@furburger.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:28:35 +0000, Boom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:03:12 GMT, KK <_KK_@furburger.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:25:03 +0000, Tim Donohoe wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Or if people hear the clone show online and realize they would prefer
>>>>>>>Howard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Do they? Do you find a lot of O&A listeners moving to Stern?
>>>>>
>>>>>Complete bull---- argument, and I'll tell you why. The people who
>>>>>like Stern have been listening for years.
>>>>
>>>>Right. Lots of them, like me, have chosen O&A over him.
>>>
>>>
>>>More like a few, but whatever.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>The people who listen to
>>>>>O&A, unless they lived in one of the 3 or 4 markets that carried them,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>They were on more than "3 or 4 markets", silly. Keep downplaying their
>>>>audience, their syndication, their ratings. Maybe you're convincing
>>>>yourself that they don't matter, but you don't seem really hard to
>>>>convince.
>>>>
>>>>You're certainly not convincing the rest of us.
>>>
>>>
>>>Oh, I'm sure they matter greatly to you. Just not most of the free
>>>world.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Stern is a known quantity and
>>>>>has a giant fanbase,
>>>>
>>>>Giant and shrinking. What's the argument now - if he even brought a
>>>>million subs to Sirius? Let's say he *did*. Let's say he brought
>>>>*double* that, just for argument's sake. That's still only 1/10 of his
>>>>"giant fanbase" (even less according to his own inflated numbers). Yeah,
>>>>some real loyalty there.
>>>
>>>
>>>Well after today's announcement that Sirius is over 4 million now,
>>>there's no question that he brought well over a million, probably
>>>closer to 3 million.
>>
>>Based on what Sirius' number of subs was when Stern announced the jump,
>>doesn't that "closer to 3 million" start to go into the unsold cars
>>demographic?
>>
>>Seriously the "Stern's brought in close to 3 million of the 4 millikon
>>listeners Sirius currently has" is the biggest pile of dung I've seen in
>>a while.
>
>
> Prove me wrong.

Prove your statement correct.

Michael

[Boom]

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:24:32 -0800, Michael <jandm16@charter.net>
wrote:

>>>Seriously the "Stern's brought in close to 3 million of the 4 millikon
>>>listeners Sirius currently has" is the biggest pile of dung I've seen in
>>>a while.
>>
>>
>> Prove me wrong.
>
>Prove your statement correct.

Mel K thinks that Howard brought in most of the subs. It's obvious
that the vast majority of the subs in the first quarter are a direct
result of Howard coming since they had over 180,000 attempted new
signups the day before Howard started. Bridge Reports credits Howard
with 65% of subs in 2005. And it's a fact that before Howard came,
Sirius didn't even have a million subs. So prove them and all that
empirical evidence wrong.

[Michael]

Boom wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:24:32 -0800, Michael <jandm16@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>>>Seriously the "Stern's brought in close to 3 million of the 4 millikon
>>>>listeners Sirius currently has" is the biggest pile of dung I've seen in
>>>>a while.
>>>
>>>
>>>Prove me wrong.
>>
>>Prove your statement correct.
>
>
> Mel K thinks that Howard brought in most of the subs. It's obvious
> that the vast majority of the subs in the first quarter are a direct
> result of Howard coming since they had over 180,000 attempted new
> signups the day before Howard started. Bridge Reports credits Howard
> with 65% of subs in 2005. And it's a fact that before Howard came,
> Sirius didn't even have a million subs. So prove them and all that
> empirical evidence wrong.

Show the numbers and the math.

As I see it in VERY rough estimates:

Before Stern Sirius had something like 750,000 subs IIRC.

Since the date Stern announced the move up to today, they've got just
over 4,000,000, leaving 3,250,000.

Mel K can say what he likes, but "most of the subs" is a bit too vague.

Bridge reports 65% of the subs in 2005 were due to Stern. I'll just go
with that and apply the 65% to everything since Stern announced.

65% of 3,250,000 = 2,112,500. A far cry from "close to 3 million".

And that's without factoring in the unsold car numbers.

Michael

[Ricky Ticket]

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:45:37 -0500, Hoody wrote
(in message <r15u12pniv2b3icqnm6hf7p1lb753kkaic@4ax.com>):

> From: Hoody <hoody@email.com>
> Reply-To: hoody@email.com
> Newsgroups: alt.fan.howard-stern, alt.radio.satellite
>
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:03:50 -0800, Michael <jandm16@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Based on what Sirius' number of subs was when Stern announced the jump,
>> doesn't that "closer to 3 million" start to go into the unsold cars
>> demographic?
>>
>> Seriously the "Stern's brought in close to 3 million of the 4 millikon
>> listeners Sirius currently has" is the biggest pile of dung I've seen in
>> a while.
>
> Sirius counts unsold cars as subscriptions
> Sirius signs a new car deal
> Magiaclly they get over the 4 million mark.
> Coincidence ?
>
> Is this the revolution ?

For retards like Boom it is. For the rest of us it's just FREE entertainment
watching them scramble around looking for a positive to hang on Stern. ;o)

--
"I'm totally with Boom and though I wouldn't invite him to Sunday dinner at
my church, he ended up proving everything he said and all you guys who didn't
like what he said could do is make up stuff in retaliation."
--django12x@aol.com (AKA Boom)

[The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions]

"Hoody" <hoody@email.com> wrote in message
news:mlou121vkrd4535ntccf3a89sge9pj8v1s@fe03.buzzardnews.com...
> On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:17:09 GMT, Ricky Ticket <not@given.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Seriously the "Stern's brought in close to 3 million of the 4 millikon
> >>> listeners Sirius currently has" is the biggest pile of dung I've seen
in
> >>> a while.
> >>
> >> Prove me wrong.
> >
> >He just did dufus. :D
> >
> >You also impeached your own credibility long ago by showing your
willingness
> >to lie and manipulate (poorly) to ease your embarrassment related to
Sterns
> >constant failures. :o)
>
> Rememeber his entire defense of Stern is that he spent his kids
> college money on Sirius stock. 7000 shares when they were 9 bucks. He
> NEEDS Howie to succeed so his kids do not end up being washed up
> failures and doo wop musicians like him, in the gutter.

Or worse, Hoohoo fans

--
The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Commander, Usenet OperAtions

O&A always win in the end
Hoohoo always whines in the end

[The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions]

"Buzzer" <none@email.org> wrote in message
news:Xns978C8B230E59A1@207.115.17.102...
> Boom <mmm@nnn.com> wrote in news:77st12l4a82hfau3h7u82h32bo2v5bm1ej@
> 4ax.com:
>
> > , probably
> > closer to 3 million.
>
> puff puff pass jimmy puff puff pass.

Sears could save a lot of money by just closing down all of those other
channels and just broadcasting Hoohoo, since he is all that Sear subscribers
listen to.

--
The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Commander, Usenet OperAtions

O&A always win in the end
Hoohoo always whines in the end

[The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions]

"The Central Scrotinizer" <mudshark@edgewater.com> wrote in message
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> In article <vNETf.29706$ty4.23050@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
> "The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions"
> <the_witchboy@yahooX.com> wrote:
>
> > "The Central Scrotinizer" <mudshark@edgewater.com> wrote in message
> > news:mudshark-7C3511.14420519032006@news.giganews.com...
> > > In article <ifkTf.29597$ty4.14484@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
> > > "The Cunning Linguist :Þ- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions"
> > > <the_witchboy@yahooX.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "The Central Scrotinizer" <mudsh