Frear Backing Away from Wearable Deadline

[All My Shrimp Was Dead and Gone]

Once again, it sounds as though Sirius is backing away from trying to
deliver a wearable this year.

Frear said today that the wearable isn't an important market and so why
knock yourself out to produce one.

In the past, when we've heard this kind of talk, it means, "Watch Out!".

(Karmizan told us earlier that Net Income doesn't matter. It is all about
cash flow. About that time we find out they're targeting a 1.1 Billion
Dollar loss for this year. So, cash flow? Hmmmm. Why don't we prepare
financial statements on the cash basis, if that is such a good measure?)

Will Sirius have a wearable by XMAS? You have to start wondering about
it....

[Dr. Droo]

All My Shrimp Was Dead and Gone wrote:
> Frear said today that the wearable isn't an important market and so why
> knock yourself out to produce one.

Course he's going to say that, the focus before June is the Sportster4.
However, there is a wearable that's been seen twice so far and the
target is still August.

CompUSA didn't have to put a notice on their site saying that it isn't
coming soon, like they did about a certain XM receiver this past week
or so.

--D

[Rich]

Dr. Droo wrote:
> CompUSA didn't have to put a notice on their site saying that it isn't
> coming soon, like they did about a certain XM receiver this past week
> or so.
>
> --D

You mean the clearly, flawlessly executing XM management team that is
in the process of being dismantled and this "oops, sorry" from XM:

http://image.compusa.com/pdf/correction/5-21%208x11%20Apology%20Signs%20_%20National%20Only.pdf

[Dr. Droo]

Rich wrote:
> You mean the clearly, flawlessly executing XM management team that is
> in the process of being dismantled and this "oops, sorry" from XM:
>
>http://image.compusa.com/pdf/correction/5-21%208x11%20Apology%20Signs%20_%20National%20Only.pdf

Yeah the lack of a confirmed ship date is always reassuring.

--D

[Mark S.]

"All My Shrimp Was Dead and Gone" <DeadShrimp@NOMail.com> wrote in message
news:_Wpfg.32189$fb2.7275@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
> Once again, it sounds as though Sirius is backing away from trying to
> deliver a wearable this year.

If you had to choose between not having a wearable and having nearly all of
your radios recalled, which do you think is the better position to be in?
Keep in mind wearables appeal to the 10% of satrad subscribers who would
listen somewhere other than their vehicles.

[All My Shrimp Was Dead and Gone]

>
> Course he's going to say that, the focus before June is the Sportster4.
> However, there is a wearable that's been seen twice so far and the
> target is still August.

The Sirius "wearable" will not be available in August. Sorry.

> CompUSA didn't have to put a notice on their site saying that it isn't
> coming soon, like they did about a certain XM receiver this past week
> or so.

Innos and Helixes are available all over the place. If Compusa couldn't get
them perhaps their D&B is the problem.

[All My Shrimp Was Dead and Gone]

>
> Yeah the lack of a confirmed ship date is always reassuring.
>

You guys are hilarious. Innos are everywhere. Damn, it is even leading the
top sellers list...for the last month.

http://tinyurl.com/mbqsn

[All My Shrimp Was Dead and Gone]

>
> If you had to choose between not having a wearable and having nearly all
> of
> your radios recalled, which do you think is the better position to be in?
> Keep in mind wearables appeal to the 10% of satrad subscribers who would
> listen somewhere other than their vehicles.
>

I know which is a better position to be in. But I'm not sure why you think
this question is even relevant.

No radios have been recalled for either service that I'm aware of, and there
is no reason to expect that any will. Both services had problems; XM has
been more aggressive in taking care of the problems (XM chose to deal with
current inventory as well as new production, where Sirius chose only to deal
with new production); but neither is expecting to have any receivers
recalled as far as I'm aware.

Have you heard something about a recall?

One other thing, however -- the Inno and Helix devices are quite a bit
beyond anything either company has had available before. So, while they are
convenient as a "wearable", they also are also indisputably the best
receivers on the market for home use and car use. So, it isn't as though
"wearability" is the only criterion.

If you can have an Inno for $300 or, for example, an S50 which is extremely
limited (aside from being an orphaned product with a bug list the size of my
front lawn) for $200. Obviously, the Inno offers an awful lot more
capability for the money.

[Dr. Droo]

All My Shrimp Was Dead and Gone wrote:
>Obviously, the Inno offers an awful lot more capability for the money.

Yeah it can get simulcasted and digested middle-aged men that call
themselves 'the boys'.

I wonder how much more fingerbanging XM is going to do with terrestrial
radio. They're in the middle of the elephant walk with both
Clearchannel and CBS now, soon Citadel too by the sounds of it.

--D

[J. Fowler]

Dr. Droo wrote:
> All My Shrimp Was Dead and Gone wrote:
>
>>Obviously, the Inno offers an awful lot more capability for the money.
>
>
> Yeah it can get simulcasted and digested middle-aged men that call
> themselves 'the boys'.

One of their former bosses use to call them 'the b-b-boys'. Its a goof
referenced on their show. Get it?


> I wonder how much more fingerbanging XM is going to do with terrestrial
> radio. They're in the middle of the elephant walk with both
> Clearchannel and CBS now, soon Citadel too by the sounds of it.

More revenue for XM and free advertising to terrestrial radio. It's a
good deal.

It wasn't long ago that a glorified mp3 player called the s50, with all
the accessories and zero on-the-go reception of live satellite cost
$500. XM can make toys like the Inno and MyFi because they thought ahead
and built out their repeater network.

Sirius expects to deploy a significant number of additional terrestrial
repeaters in 2006. Perhaps this decision was tied to their ability to
deliver true portable receivers. How much is this build out going to
cost them?

[Dr. Droo]

J. Fowler wrote:
> One of their former bosses use to call them 'the b-b-boys'. Its a goof
> referenced on their show. Get it?

You can justify it however you want, doesn't make it any less
ridiculous.

> More revenue for XM and free advertising to terrestrial radio. It's a
> good deal.

I wonder how much they're paying.

> It wasn't long ago that a glorified mp3 player called the s50, with all
> the accessories and zero on-the-go reception of live satellite cost
> $500. XM can make toys like the Inno and MyFi because they thought ahead
> and built out their repeater network.

And these units represent a small margin of XM's overall subscribers.

> Sirius expects to deploy a significant number of additional terrestrial
> repeaters in 2006. Perhaps this decision was tied to their ability to
> deliver true portable receivers. How much is this build out going to
> cost them?

I'm sure it'll be on the sheet. Unless XM is going to come deploy
repeaters here, their coverage is always going to be lackluster
compared to Sirius without them..

--D

[CodeMonkey]

Mark S. wrote:
> "All My Shrimp Was Dead and Gone" <DeadShrimp@NOMail.com> wrote in message
> news:_Wpfg.32189$fb2.7275@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>> Once again, it sounds as though Sirius is backing away from trying to
>> deliver a wearable this year.
>
> If you had to choose between not having a wearable and having nearly all of
> your radios recalled, which do you think is the better position to be in?
> Keep in mind wearables appeal to the 10% of satrad subscribers who would
> listen somewhere other than their vehicles.
>
>

There was a radio recall? Wow. I guess I should find out when that
happened... Oh wait, it didn't! Try again...