Can I get XM radio via my cell phone?

[me@privacy.net]

I'm in market for new cell phone..... a smart phone I'm
sure

Is it possible to get XM radio thru it?

And listen to it using a blue tooth headset while phone
slays in car next to me?

[Dr. Droo]

me@privacy.net wrote:
> I'm in market for new cell phone..... a smart phone I'm
> sure
>
> Is it possible to get XM radio thru it?
>
> And listen to it using a blue tooth headset while phone
> slays in car next to me?

XStreamXM lets you do this on Windows CE (PocketPC) based units.
However, the online service doesn't have the news/talk channels that
the regular service does. The quality of the streaming can vary as
well depending on network load on the cellular network.

http://www.xstreamxm.com/

As for the bluetooth headset part, this varies from phone to phone.
You would have to try it and see.

--D

[me@privacy.net]

"Dr. Droo" <drdroo@gmail.com> wrote:

>XStreamXM lets you do this on Windows CE (PocketPC) based units.

Does it cost?

[Dr. Droo]

me@privacy.net wrote:
> Does it cost?

Program itself is free I think but you do need to be an XM customer in
some form.

--D

[Captain Funn]

Dr. Droo wrote:
> me@privacy.net wrote:
>
>>Does it cost?
>
>
> Program itself is free I think but you do need to be an XM customer in
> some form.
>
> --D
>
I know that I am pointing out what should be obvious, but keep in mind
that you will need a data plan for the phone. The monthly prices for
data plans vary quite widely by both the carrier and the plan.

[me@privacy.net]

Captain Funn <captn-funn@usa.net> wrote:

>I know that I am pointing out what should be obvious, but keep in mind
>that you will need a data plan for the phone. The monthly prices for
>data plans vary quite widely by both the carrier and the plan.

Understood

I would probably get a Treo 700 with unlimited net
usage

[Dr. Droo]

Captain Funn wrote:
> I know that I am pointing out what should be obvious, but keep in mind
> that you will need a data plan for the phone. The monthly prices for
> data plans vary quite widely by both the carrier and the plan.

Yeah I thought about pointing that out, I'm glad you did.

People that are going to Sprint or Verizon for 'unlimited data' may
want to be aware that excessive streaming or downloading can result in
getting your wings clipped. I guess they get kinda pissy about that
sorta thing in large doses.

I played with SiriuCE on my iPaq H1945 I had sitting here BT'd to my
S-E S710a on Tmobile. It works ok, kinda pauses at some points but it
does the job, sounds decent for what it is.

--D

[me@privacy.net]

"Dr. Droo" <drdroo@gmail.com> wrote:

>People that are going to Sprint or Verizon for 'unlimited data' may
>want to be aware that excessive streaming or downloading can result in
>getting your wings clipped. I guess they get kinda pissy about that
>sorta thing in large doses.

have heard that

but any idea what constitutes "too much" data?

I mean you are paying for an unlimited Net plan, right?
So what is the beef with them?

[Dr. Droo]

me@privacy.net wrote:
> have heard that
>
> but any idea what constitutes "too much" data?

I can't answer that, I don't think they can either.. I just know people
have been slapped.

> I mean you are paying for an unlimited Net plan, right?
> So what is the beef with them?

Unmetered with restrictions.. The unlimited plan with less restrictions
is generally upwards of 80 bucks with those carriers.

I really think you're better off having a satellite radio if you want
satellite radio service, just because for the price it's cheap compared
to the headache of streaming. Ignoring entirely you don't get all the
channels if you don't get the service anyway.

--D

[me@privacy.net]

"Dr. Droo" <drdroo@gmail.com> wrote:

>I really think you're better off having a satellite radio if you want
>satellite radio service, just because for the price it's cheap compared
>to the headache of streaming. Ignoring entirely you don't get all the
>channels if you don't get the service anyway.

Point taken

Thanks!

[Bill Kraski]

me@privacy.net wrote:

> have heard that
>
> but any idea what constitutes "too much" data?
>
> I mean you are paying for an unlimited Net plan, right?
> So what is the beef with them?

It's kind of like the cable companies that cut your service if you
exceed an unspoken, unwritten level of usage. In both cases the
carrier has a limited amount of bandwidth. If your usage starts to
regularly effect the access or speed others have, you can be sure
they'll find ways to limit your usage.

--
Bill K

[me@privacy.net]

"Bill Kraski" <Bill.Kraski.NoSpam@verizon.invalid>
wrote:

>
>It's kind of like the cable companies that cut your service if you
>exceed an unspoken, unwritten level of usage. In both cases the
>carrier has a limited amount of bandwidth. If your usage starts to
>regularly effect the access or speed others have, you can be sure
>they'll find ways to limit your usage.

I see

I just wish they would put it in plain words like your
above so everyone knows exactly what they mean. <g>

[Bill Kraski]

me@privacy.net wrote:

> I just wish they would put it in plain words like your
> above so everyone knows exactly what they mean. <g>

I think some of the cell carriers may be a bit more honest about it.
But I've yet to hear of a cable company that will admit to limits till
after you've gone over them. But whether it's huge downloads or long
periods of streaming audio (or video), until more radio spectrum is
allocated, what you want to do has to impact the ability of others to
use the cell network. There's only so much spectrum & so much
equipment to handle it all. Whereas the live satellite feed is the
only thing assigned to the given frequencies, with all those having
proper receivers able to listen without infringing on the ability of
others to tune in, as well.

--
Bill K

[me@privacy.net]

"Bill Kraski" <Bill.Kraski.NoSpam@verizon.invalid>
wrote:

>me@privacy.net wrote:
>
>> I just wish they would put it in plain words like your
>> above so everyone knows exactly what they mean. <g>
>
>I think some of the cell carriers may be a bit more honest about it.
>But I've yet to hear of a cable company that will admit to limits till
>after you've gone over them. But whether it's huge downloads or long
>periods of streaming audio (or video), until more radio spectrum is
>allocated, what you want to do has to impact the ability of others to
>use the cell network. There's only so much spectrum & so much
>equipment to handle it all. Whereas the live satellite feed is the
>only thing assigned to the given frequencies, with all those having
>proper receivers able to listen without infringing on the ability of
>others to tune in, as well.

Understood

Do you think this is where mesh networking might be a
solution?

[Dr. Droo]

me@privacy.net wrote:
> Understood
>
> Do you think this is where mesh networking might be a
> solution?

Mesh networking compounds the problem, not solves it.

--D

[me@privacy.net]

"Dr. Droo" <drdroo@gmail.com> wrote:

>me@privacy.net wrote:
>> Understood
>>
>> Do you think this is where mesh networking might be a
>> solution?
>
>Mesh networking compounds the problem, not solves it.
>
>--D

really

I thought mesh networking made each machine a server as
well as client

[Dr. Droo]

me@privacy.net wrote:
> really
>
> I thought mesh networking made each machine a server as
> well as client

That's a great idea certainly but you can reduce the amount of
available bandwidth by doing that.. It's more for availability, not
for decent use of spectrum. It also adds latency to the situation, so
after several 'hops' your link can degrade dramatically in some
situations.

Data over cellular is a nice idea and will evolve, but unless cellular
carriers are going to have a broadcast component (multicast, etc.) on
their towers for certain resources, things like streaming media are
going to be a bad use of resources for a while. They have enough
trouble managing the voice traffic.

--D

[me@privacy.net]

"Dr. Droo" <drdroo@gmail.com> wrote:

>That's a great idea certainly but you can reduce the amount of
>available bandwidth by doing that.. It's more for availability, not
>for decent use of spectrum. It also adds latency to the situation, so
>after several 'hops' your link can degrade dramatically in some
>situations.
>
>Data over cellular is a nice idea and will evolve, but unless cellular
>carriers are going to have a broadcast component (multicast, etc.) on
>their towers for certain resources, things like streaming media are
>going to be a bad use of resources for a while. They have enough
>trouble managing the voice traffic.

I see

Good explanation and now I understand better

Thanks so much!