DTC100 and Locals

[technerd]

I finally did the transistor mod to my new DTC. I programmed my H card with AktivatorPlus63, but now I do not get any of the locals. I looked in the 2900's, just in case, but did not find them there either. I get channel 80 PBS, and that is about it. My firmware version is 40b, and I have the antenna set to Oval. Anyone come across this and have a fix?

[tvmike]

You need version 372 to get all the locals from 101 sat and 119 sat. ver 372 does not get 110 sat. 101 locals are from 871-999, 119 locals are from 2-99.
40b is the update they did last spring that took away the locals except for correct zipcode, just like all other 5th generation IRDs. It gives the ability to get the 110 satellite and to change your letterbox borders from gray to black. Version 372 is the original firmware when the DTC was released in 1999.

[Electron]

The DTC-100 like the other 5th Generation IRD's You only get the locals in the area allowed based on the zipcode used when programming the card. They are remapped to your local channel designators IE: NBC=2, ABC=8 Etc. ( Examples Only these may not match for your area code )

Some have said the locals can be found on 5th gen units by setting the installation menus for triple satellite installation, You could do a search for more info on this.

Electron

[technobill]

TVMike -

I have the 372 version on a pin 15 modified DTC and still can not get any of the HD channels. I had another DTC and was able to see change to the HD Channels (Couldnt see them with the standard 18" dish) but this IRD acts like it is not a plus.

Any insight would be great.

[technobill]

One more thing....

I can select either a 18" dish or an Oval Dish. But when I select oval (dont have one, but select it anyway) I do not get the option of 2 or 3 LNB's like I should....

[technerd]

I believe that the third LNB option came in update A04.2c. The 40b does not have this option.

[SYN MASTER]

I can't wait till we can re-enable that rom, so we can get all these new functions on our recievers.

But, then again I am thinking that what if we have to go back to the H for a crutch in times that the Hu is out.

I just want to be able to switch the aspect ratios on my remote easily and not have to go through a monkey mess to zoom up 4:3 HDTV

You know how it goes.

SYN

[Toidi24]

I am new, and a bit slow it seems, but I am trying to figure out how to get the locals(900's) on my RCA DTC100 and my h-card. Is there anything I can do? I have the last Rca (drd222) that still gets locals without modifying, but would like to set up the new one.

[Kool Aid]

You can't get the 900's on a DTC-100, unless it has the original v3.72 firmware, and has been modified so it doesn't take the current update.

If your H card still works, then you don't have the current update, you have the v40.b update, and can get "locals" based on the zip code on the card (if that zip code has locals on the DTV system).

Those locals are in the 0-99 range and correspond to the local "broadcast channels......ie: 8 (abc) 12 (fox) 28 (cbs) etc...

Hope this helps.

[tvmike]

Originally posted by technobill
TVMike -

I have the 372 version on a pin 15 modified DTC and still can not get any of the HD channels. I had another DTC and was able to see change to the HD Channels (Couldnt see them with the standard 18" dish) but this IRD acts like it is not a plus.

Any insight would be great.


Technobill, If you don't see HD channels with ver 372 than you are also not seeing locals from the 119 sat. on channels 2-99 (101 locals are on 871-999. In other words, you don't have an oval dish correctly pointed or a second 18 inch dish pointed at 119 with a 22khz switch box, or you have failed to activate dual LNB use in your setup menu. You should feel very fortunate if you have version 372, it is rare indeed.
Some side effects of the pin 15 mod is if you don't disconnect the transistor collector lead, it will burn up into charchol. While there are no ill effects of this, the transistor will have to be replaced if you ever need an update again. Also the receiver will lockup twice a day, during the early afternoon and early AM hours. Finally, if you try to get program info more than a few hours out it will lockup the receiver. All lockups are cleared by removing AC power or reseting with the internal pushbutton.

[technobill]

TVMike

I am still using a single standard 18" dish. And this is the second DTC 100 that I have had in this configuration. My first on took the update and is no good for testing. It was at least able to see (without any video as I would expect) the channels that HD would come down (Ch 199 and I think one in the 500 block as well as the triplesat setup channel).

This DTC does not "see" anything more than a DRD222. I have 2 other IRD's that can see the 900 block and dont watch much of the other stations anyway. I even have a DRD420 that can "see" 199.... Again "see" meaning Info Bar but no video.

I would gladly loose the 900 block to be able to get some of the other functions back.

I have already done the "Collector Clip" mode and run the lead back to ground...

[Kool Aid]

Point your single dish at the other satellite, and let it "aquire" those channels, and it will add them to the line up.

The receiver won't show channels in the lineup that it doesn't know exist.

After you get the new channel lineup, set the dish back to the other satellite, and you will get the header for 199.

Good luck.

[Faque]

I can buy a new in the box DTC-100 that has a Manufacture date of Jan. 10,2000. Do you think it would still be at version 372? when did the update come out? how much do you think it it worth?

[mjlessor]

Faque, I have Nov 9, 1999 manufacture of DTC-100 and it came with software 40b I would like to trade for ver A04.2c
which was available in early Nov 2000. Chances are the one you are looking at has 40b which is HD functional but lacks
broad locals of version 372 but 372 lacked HD.

[tvmike]

Technobill,
There are no HD signals on the satellite you are pointed at. Channel 199 is on both the 101 satellite and the other channel 199 is HD and is on the 119 satellite. The other HD channel is HBO east on ch. 509. This channel is only on the 119 satellite. There is a third HD channel at channel 901 again on the 119 satellite. The channel 901 on the 101 sat is the local channel ordering info.

The way duplicate channels work using the oval or two dish system is they will all appear in the guide properly descibed. The first 199 will be in the PPV area from the 101 satellite, the second 199 will be the HD demo channel from the 119 satellite. The receiver knows this channel 199 is on the 119 satellite, so when you select it in the guide, your receiver generates a 22khz signal that cause your switchbox to change to your second LNB or dish.

Duplicate channels occur on the same satellite also. The locals that are on the 119 satellite are duplicated many times. This is because all markets are represented by their actual channel number. Therefore, you have maybe four channel 2s, three channel 3s, five channel 4s and so on. Each duplicate channel is from another city. The locals on the 101 satellite appear like earlier generation receivers on channels 871-999.

Hope this helps you. To others reading this post remember this description of locals only works with version 372 firmware. The 40b firmware treats locals just like any other 5th generation receiver. And of coarse the firmware updates comming down twice a day for the past 6 weeks will eliminate the use of your H card.

[tvmike]

Originally posted by mjlessor
Faque, I have Nov 9, 1999 manufacture of DTC-100 and it came with software 40b I would like to trade for ver A04.2c
which was available in early Nov 2000. Chances are the one you are looking at has 40b which is HD functional but lacks
broad locals of version 372 but 372 lacked HD.

MJlessor, Your wrong about version 372. It has HD just fine. The only thing 372 won't do is give you the 110 satellite, it only allows 101 and 119. Also, it doesn't allow you to turn the letterbox borders from gray to black. Because 119 is where the HD is, it picks them up fine and outputs the HD signal through the VGA port, and the same video in NTSC format through the S video or composite out port, depending on the status of the front panal button.

The first update that took away locals occured in March 2000. Anything manufactured before that date is fine. I bought one in the summer of 2000 and it was a proscan model that had version 372.

[Kool Aid]

As a side note ~

v372 does not get the Spanish lineup or the NASA channel.

[Faque]

Now I am really confused, mjlessor you tell me you have Nov 9, 1999 manufacture of DTC-100 and it came with software 40b and tvmike you tell me The first update that took away locals occured in March 2000. Anything manufactured before that date is fine. I still need to know if I should by the unit with a Jan. 10 , 2000 date on it or what update would be on it.

[cabra]

Faque,

I bought two DTC-100 just last week. One had manufacture date of 1-11-2000 and the other 1-13-2000. Both came with the original software version 3.72. Both have been modified with the transistor center pin ground and are still up an running with version 3.72.

Cabra

[Faque]

Well I went and bought the DTC 100 with date Jan. 10 2000 and it has upgrade 40B on it.I will just have to live with that.Thanks any way

[teklock]

I just got a DTC-100 made on Jan. 13 2000 and it has 3.72 as the version..