Need Help with Oval Antenna Setup

[edwin]

I originally (had) installed a sony oval dish in anticipation of receiving HD at some point in the future. Had 4 rg6 lines coming in the house, two connected directly to two sony recvrs. Just bought a proscan 105, but don't have any documentation as to how to wire in the multiswitch which came with the sony dish, but wasn't used or needed up until now. Can anybody point me to wiring diagrams and/or a description of how to get this setup to work correctly. I get all the prior channels ok, but cannot get the hd stations at 199 and 509.

Thanks, Edwin

[smack]

It should be connected like this:

The four coax leads from the LNBs should connect to the input of the multiswitch (there should be four inputs: two for "Sat A" and two for "Sat B"). "Sat A" will be the main satellite at 101, "Sat B" will be the satellite at 119.

It doesn't matter which of the two coax leads (from a given LNB)attaches which of the two input ports (they may be labeled "LHCP" / "RHCP" or "+13VDC" / "+18VDC"), as long as they are kept on the correct port group (sat A or Sat B).

Each of your IRDs should connect to the outputs of the multiswitch. None of the IRDs should be directly connected to the Dish. Any IRD can be connected to any of output ports.

The multiswitch can usually be mounted directly on the back of the dish, or the multiswitch can be located inside the house...as long as the coax comes directly from the dish (LNBs) and is attached to the inputs of the multiswitch.

If you're using non-plus IRDs, they will only be able to receive the programming from the main (101) satellite. Only "Plus" IRDs (Fifth Gen or higher) have the ability to receive programming from both satellites at the same time. You can mix-and-match "Plus" and "non-Plus" IRDs on the same multiswitch, no problem.

Good Luck, repost if you have any problems or questions.


Scott

[KILROY]

it wont be long b4 my new oval dish will be here. now fron the begenning after i set it up and everything i go in and get my az el and tilt out of my ird. now what transponder do i use so i can get my strength on my 101 and 119 sat. i know on the dish pointing menu you have the 101 strength and the 119 strength below it i was just making sure i would be on the right transponder to get both the 101 and 119 signal!!!


kilroy

[smack]

For the 119, use XP 24 or higher. Any of the lower transponders will work OK for the 101.

Once you have the signal peaked on one transponder, you may want to switch to another, then back, to "even out" the signal strengths on the 101.

There's usually some compromise in peaking the 101 against the 119; you may have to give up some signal strength on the 101 side to get acceptable strength on the 119 side.

Good Luck

Scott

[Iced]

Originally posted by KILROY
it wont be long b4 my new oval dish will be here. now fron the begenning after i set it up and everything i go in and get my az el and tilt out of my ird. now what transponder do i use so i can get my strength on my 101 and 119 sat. i know on the dish pointing menu you have the 101 strength and the 119 strength below it i was just making sure i would be on the right transponder to get both the 101 and 119 signal!!!


kilroy

101 Bird uses transponders 1-32
110 Bird uses transponders 28,30,32
119 Bird uses transponders 22-32

When you get a signal on your IRD, check which transponders are active... then you'll know which bird you're pointing at. A problem during a recent install was I had the 119 LNB on an elliptical dish pointing to the 110 bird thus the 101 LNB didn't get a signal. Knowing that I was only getting transponders 28,30,32 on the 119 LNB told me I was pointing at the wrong bird. Hope this info helps! Good Luck! (:

[mcsegod]

i have the same situation, where all my 3 good know tested rid only have strenght at 24-32 transponder. so i guess i point to wrong 119w sat. but then why i set it to 2( which is best)transponder and adjust the dish and i get nothing no signal at all tried other 2-20 still dont have signal. that mean i cant get 101w sat at my place. zip 77064
thanx for helping

[KILROY]

so the receiver will reconize that the oval dish is hooked up right? but the main thing is when i find the 119 bird that means ive locked into the 101 bird is that correct?

kilroy

[Iced]

Originally posted by KILROY
so the receiver will reconize that the oval dish is hooked up right? but the main thing is when i find the 119 bird that means ive locked into the 101 bird is that correct?

kilroy

You may get the 119 bird but you may have to do some fine tuning to lock in the 101 (and 110 if applicable).

If you have a 3 LNB setup its probably easiest to max the 110 signal, lock the azimuth and elevation... and then play with the tilt to find the 101 and 119.

If you've only got a 2 LNB setup, perhaps find the 119 first, verify you get the correct transponders on the 119 signal strength setup screen then switch to the 101. Hopefully you'll get a signal right away if your tilt setting is accurate.

Good luck and hope this helps!

You may find the channel map by bird and transponder helpful. It's been posted here (http://www.dsschat.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=44182).

[KILROY]

thanks for your help!!!!!!!



kilroy

[Iced]

Originally posted by KILROY
thanks for your help!!!!!!!



kilroy




No problem, it's nice to actually help someone for a change... Keep us posted on how it goes! :)

[edwin]

Tried the suggestion made by Smack... Thanks, but now new problem. With the multiswitch in-line, I only get the even transponders on the 101 sat. All odd transponders have 0 strength. I get good signal strength on even and odd transponders on the 119 sat, and now get 199 and 509. Old setup with direct lnb connection through block gets signal on both even and odd transponders. Likely I'm doing something stupid, but appreciate any suggestions to correct!

Edwin

[smack]

More often than not, it's a bad cable or connector. If you have a/some spare cable, try swapping...are thre cables you use whith the multiswitch that you didn't use on the direct connection?

If you have long runs, or are using rg/59, you could be losing enough voltage going to the LNBs that it's not switching.

Good Luck

Scott

[SA-DSS]

Just make sure(AND THIS IS A MUST) Make sure the base is absolutely level. Use a torpedo level. Everytime I use a mast that someone else has mounted it takes forever to get both signals, When it is level and I set all 3 cordinates I get good signal first time.

[KILROY]

http://207.250.164.17/dish.htm CHECK THIS OUT MAYBE IT WILL HELP WITH SOME HOOK UP PROBLEMS!!!!!!!



KILROY

[KILROY]

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