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mcsegod
January 7th, 2001, 02:49 PM
hi, i need help.
it have 97 strenght at 101 w sat. i tested the hcard at a friends house work for all channels. i took a look at his transponder from 1 to 32, all has strengh. but at my house only form 25 to 32 have strenght i tested with 2 5th gen and 3rd gen ird. i could only see channel name listed, couldnt view it. it say" waiting for satellite signal"when i select one channel. why is this please, help!
doccatv
January 7th, 2001, 06:16 PM
check lnb from what you say seems likeeither lnb problem or elvation track slowly an see if signal increases doc
KILROY
January 7th, 2001, 06:38 PM
did you select the oval dish and the dual lnb setting in your ird menu?
kilroy
mcsegod
January 7th, 2001, 09:04 PM
to kelroy, yes i did select oval shape and 2 sat. even i hook the round shape sat. i still need to select oval in the menu, otherwise there are only 100, and 5 of 840+ spanish music channel.if select oval each oval or round shape connected satellite then i get all channels. sometime i dont even get all 101+ channel. stupid "searching for satellite signal" message is annoying this is going on for weeks. iam new to this. i know what 101 w and 119 w sat is. where to point to. the problem is that i can only get signal in that direction, if i move more than 3 degree no signal. that is stange if i move then i should get at least one of the satellite. man i giving this ---- up. give me a head act.
smack
January 7th, 2001, 10:05 PM
Verify your "tilt" setting. When you put in your correct zip code or city, it should give you three pointing coordinates, Azimuth (side-to-side), Elevation (up and down) and Tilt (rotation around the pointing direction).
The Tilt setting is critical, as is having a plumb & level mount. If any of this is wrong, your satellite pointing life is gonna suck in a major way.
The Tilt adjustment bolts are on either side of the middle of the dish. Find you tilt setting, set it, then leave it alone. The tilt setting for around Chicago is "68" (for example). The West side of the dish should be lower.
If the tilt setting is off, you will NEVER get both satellites ar the same time. According to your post, it sounds like you've got the 119 nailed, but the 101 is not there (119 will show signal on XP 24 - 32, sometimes 12).
Maybe you have the "Sat A" and "Sat B" leads reversed on the multiswitch...
"Trust me"
Good Luck
Scott
[Edited by smack on January 8th, 2001 at 07:36 AM]
Iced
January 8th, 2001, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by mcsegod
hi, i need help.
it have 97 strenght at 101 w sat. i tested the hcard at a friends house work for all channels. i took a look at his transponder from 1 to 32, all has strengh. but at my house only form 25 to 32 have strenght i tested with 2 5th gen and 3rd gen ird. i could only see channel name listed, couldnt view it. it say" waiting for satellite signal"when i select one channel. why is this please, help!
I think your 101 LNB is pointed at the 119 bird. You'll have to adjust your elevation and azimuth.
Click Here (http://www.dsschat.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=44123) to see my post for which transponders are active on which bird.
mcsegod
January 8th, 2001, 10:42 AM
well you may be right that 119 is whe4re my dish is pointing to . but then why i could not get any signal with transponder 2-20 while adjusting the dish. my setting anzimand tilt is right cause i got signal from 119 w. so i guess no 101 w sat for me?
mcsegod
January 8th, 2001, 10:56 AM
is it matter where u put your dish or how high or low , i put on the roof and set anzim at 197 and elervation 54. still cant get the 101 sat
Iced
January 8th, 2001, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by mcsegod
to kelroy, yes i did select oval shape and 2 sat. even i hook the round shape sat. i still need to select oval in the menu, otherwise there are only 100, and 5 of 840+ spanish music channel.if select oval each oval or round shape connected satellite then i get all channels. sometime i dont even get all 101+ channel. stupid "searching for satellite signal" message is annoying this is going on for weeks. iam new to this. i know what 101 w and 119 w sat is. where to point to. the problem is that i can only get signal in that direction, if i move more than 3 degree no signal. that is stange if i move then i should get at least one of the satellite. man i giving this ---- up. give me a head act.
Did I read the above right? You only have a round dish? If so, you're single LNB system is pointing at the 119 bird. If so, you need to point it at the 101 bird instead of the 119 bird (ie. 18 degrees difference) so yes, 3 degree shift from your current position will result in no signal... it needs to be moved more.
Do you actually have a round dish or oval dish? If you have an oval dish, how many LNB's?
If you only have a round dish, changing your IRD setting to 'oval and 2 LNB' won't do anything for you. You'll get the channel guide but you won't get most of the channels and some not be the actual channels.
Here's a list I downloaded from somewhere... It may be a little bit old but should be helpful for debugging. The active transponders won't change, however a few channels may have moved.
Channel Map 7-16-00
101 bird
1 - 151 205 265 327 358 399 527 529 638 812 814 822
2 - 128 229 231 249 262 273 280 282 370
3 - 110 113 152 220 245 384 521 623 647 753 808 811 841 863 902
4 - 244 254 269 350 351 360 404 917 936 938
5 - 115 362 368 382 624 626 641 838 839 840 860 875 904
6 - 111 112 150 178 180 230 251 252 354 607
7 - 108 134 165 309 313 375 380 526 802 816 817 818 903
8 - 200 266 333 594 909 910 911 912 914 915 937
9 - 121 290 520 522 533 645 856 857 858 864
10 - 100 109 203 233 240 248 294 297 500 966
11 - 125 145 260 296 325 366 390 605 629 819 823 824 865 900
12 - 255 291 301 335 642 755 756 757 916 920 923 924 925 926
13 - 102 120 140 243 250 264 386 528 531 630 801 821 825 828 861 906
14 - 142 331 931 932 933 934 948 949 950 951
15 - 106 130 183 329 339 353 620 632 636 649 754 829 833 842 862
16 - 213 253 292 317 372 595 913 918 919 921 935
17 - 105 116 135 138 171 207 402 523 634 639 755 804 805 830 831
18 - 652 944 945 946 947 952 974 975 976 977
19 - 101 122 148 168 170 242 315 355 373 604 637 813 834 836 843
20 - 236 307 312 356 377 598 979 980 981 983
21 - 201 278 299 311 530 532 581 621 643 720 806 859
22 - 114 208 258 295 298 300 550 596 653
23 - 117 190 202 204 651 654 897 898 908 954
24 - 502 507 514 537 957 958 992 993 994 995
25 - 119 209 212 246 247 597 608 628 700 901
26 - 505 508 547 549 942 959 970 971 972 973
27 - 103 107 155 160 613 907 953
28 - 503 513 539 540 544 940 960 961 962 963
29 - 182 206 256 388 895 896 905 939
30 - 504 512 929 930 941 943 988 989 990 991
31 - 118 364 381 383 387 389 899 955 956 964 965 967 968 982
32 - 501 538 542 545 927 928 984 985 986 987
110 bird
8 (28) - 564 565 566 567
10 (30) - 90 560 561 3004
12 (32) - 562 563
119 bird (Plus and Non-Plus Combined)
22 - 438 439
23 - 189
24 - 193
25 - 190 199
26 - 194
27 - 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 332 333 334 335 336 337 338
339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356
357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 401 405 406 407 417 418 421 2925
2926 2927 2928 2929 2930 2931 2932 2933 2934 2935 2936
28 - 100 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 960 961 962 963 964
29 - 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 290 291 292 367 368 369 370
371 372 373 374 375 377 379 400 408 410 422 423 425 2913 2914 2915 2916
2927 2918 2929 2920 2921 2922 2923 2924
30 - 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 968 969 970 971 972
31 - 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 403 409 413 416 419 420 2901
2902 2903 2904 2905 2906 2907 2908 2909 2910 2911 2912 3002 3005 9999
32 - 480 481 667 668 669 670 976 977 978 979 980
mcsegod
January 9th, 2001, 09:13 AM
let me try the adjust one more for the last time. i think the neightbor are sick of me wondering what the heck am i doing on the roof everyda for last weeks. cheese yeh i had a wonderful holiday.thanx
mcsegod
January 9th, 2001, 11:37 AM
i have both, it is now connected to oval with one lnb, and is 101 w sat, i am not spanish so no need for 119 sat. i got this for $6.if i use round dish and selected in setup menu it only give 5 channels. if i choose oval with 2 sats, then i get all channels that sucks, yeah?
i will adjust the tilt later after work around 3 or 4pm central so i will let you know!
mcsegod
January 9th, 2001, 05:24 PM
guess what ?
yes i got the signal.
this is what is did
i went and find out the correct setting from the web site for the 101 w sat azimuth and elevation.
the setting from the rid was wrong, elevelation was off by 4 degree. i now have all channels thanx everyone helping me.
i put on transponder 2 for locked at 97 strength. i went and recheck all the transponder every single one of them get signal.
stupid 3 of the reciever gave me the wrong elevation. couldnt watch tv for whole holiday. thanx again all
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