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gunsmoke2
May 31st, 2001, 10:34 PM
Was in court today and had the bad ass judge. He has a twin and you never know which one will show up. Although we set a date for June 7th for a hearing to reopen his wrongful decision the bad ass judge said he would not reversed it. He blasted my lawyer and myself for not taking up his suggestion in last Oct to wait for a Superior court decision as we told him we didn't want to wait. He considered our motion as an abuse of process on our part. What a turd

Why should we have waited.? With over $100,000 in seized in inventory..with two wins in my province already..with the judge saying that if CBC was doing the same thing it would have to aquit me.. when the judge said to my lawyer that he should minize costs regarding a formal charter motion ( in other words we didn't need one ) why should I have waited. Did the judge tell us how he was going to rule in Oct.

What he did say in Oct that he would be *bound * by a higher court ruling..and that's exactly what has happen..but he what's to deny me that right and send me on appeal that might not happen til next year.

He proudly announced it had his sentence ready today which is scheduled for June 7th.. he wouldn't let me sit with my lawyers today. He was a raving lunatic.

What did he expect from was going to happen at the higher court ? did he really think his piss poor judgement was going to be a hit. Well now the decision makes him look stupid as the higher court judge said that with the two court of appeals decision and his it was now the law of the land reserving judgement only on a Canadian Supreme Court ruling. My bad ass judge got put down bigtime and now instead of justice or doing the right thing he has taken this personally and seems bent on punishing me more.

I was on the phone with 5 lawyers tonight and they are so mad that I don't have to mention a personal agenda anymore..

No justice because of a bad ass judge.. only can hope that his twin shows up next Thursday.

GS2

ELF-CO
June 1st, 2001, 08:33 AM
GS2, so where does that leave you at this point? Does that mean that the appeal is out the window completely, and you have to seek a higher court? (Maybe I mis-understood... but I cannot see how this judge could ignore a higher court's existing ruling... which you now have!)

Sounds to me like this judge is looking for an early retirement from the bench, or looking to go out with a bang. Taking this personal is simply pathetic... as the law is supposed to be a standard for one & all, not individuals. I hope we hear better news soon for you that this. Justice it ain't!

June 1st, 2001, 11:02 AM
Agree. Something definitely does not smell right about this.

gunsmoke2
June 1st, 2001, 02:13 PM
We filed an application to reverse the decision before the higher court ruling came. When it was told the the twin judge on the phone with my lawyers and the crown he was ok with it and said that's interesting.

We didn't know we would have the higher court ruling and our application or motion was based on the Ontario Court of Appeals decision which the judge did not the opportunatly to see it before his decision.

We were naturally so happy to receive the higher court ruling and mention it yesterday in court. The bad ass judge said he "knew all about it" and instead of doing the right thing in justice or law he decides to say screw off I'm going to rule against you and fine you. He has to hear the motion because he already agreed to it. He is *bound* by the higher court ruling and even said he would have to be in last Oct. Instead he wants to get rid of me.. sentence me and send me to to higher court which might go into next year with the summer coming.

The bad ass judge knows it doesn't matter if we didn't take his offer to wait last Oct and it is not relevent. We are actually not re-opening the case as it is still ongoing until he renders his sentence which he said he had already... why did he say that when its not due til June7th ? intimination ? We have already filed an appeal to the higher court within the proper timeframe however its not needed if he would do the right thing as *bound* by law.

He is on some personal agenda and he will only look more riduculas when we end up in the higher court as they will see he didn't followed law and wasted taxer's payer money and only caused more unnecessary damage to me. What a turd.

GS2

2612596
June 1st, 2001, 05:03 PM
GS2, sorry to hear about this. You are right this judge is
a complete turd! A joke to say the least, he knows the case will be tosed. He must have a real problem, tormenting you must give him some sick pleasure. As I said the last time, keep your head up. It will all work out in the wash.

June 1st, 2001, 05:46 PM
he was counting on a backing by other judge's that read his statement, that he would abide by the higher court's decision, and felt they would keep that in mind when other ruling's were made after he made that statement so as not to make him look bad.

apparently his ruling is so indefensible they didn't want to be put in the position of siding with something they felt would end up being overturned eventually because they don't see the slightest justification in his ruling that would stand up after all is scrutinized.


it was big of him to agree to abide by a higher court's decision,NOT.

i think most judge's when they make a ruling wouldn't make a hypothetical comment on what they will do if----


it's unfortunate but obvious he doesn't want to do the right thing and is in a position to cause more aggravation ,cost's and time, which is something in sort supply with your condition.


i guess there must not be a precedent on releasing,necessary fund's for your living and health cost,from the seized asset's.

just a suggestion,there are financial company's/FACTOR'S that might take a look at the case you have and make a cash advance based on the risk factor AND YOUR ASSET'S.

it's not cheap,but it is possible. if they are really convinced of the a legal outcome in your favor,you might even be able to spread the charge they want by assigning them a piece of a civil suit for malicious prosecution or whatever you would do legally to get retribution for damage's suffered,in the event the case is won by you and all appeal's are exhausted.

if you want to explore the factoring angle,let me know and i'll do some research.

gl

ELF-CO
June 1st, 2001, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by gunsmoke2
He is on some personal agenda and he will only look more riduculas when we end up in the higher court as they will see he didn't followed law and wasted taxer's payer money and only caused more unnecessary damage to me. What a turd.

GS2

Well... just what we need... another waste of taxpayer's $$. I agree with EAO though, as some form of compensation should be filed for if the judge decides not to set aside the verdict based on (yet another) case siding in your favour!

Since he acknowledges full well that he "knew all about it"... then he is merely prolonging the outcome needlessly, and at yours and ours (taxpayers) expense. This behaviour should not go unpunished as they are supposed to be above this... and "PRIDE" shouldn't enter into it. Respecting the law should always come first.
(Isn't that what they are 'supposed' to be there for!? To make rulings based on existing laws!??) Sheesh.

To The Real King!!
June 1st, 2001, 11:24 PM
HI GS2,

While I was VERY SAD to hear that the "hanging judge" HUNG you up again, remember that he DID say and I was there that day, that if the CBC was doing this too (which later testimony by them admitted they were) that he would have to ACQUIT YOU. So of what importance is a supposed deal made subsequent to that when he did NOT do what he said he would.

Of COURSE you would push him, after all he SAID that he would ACQUIT you. Why should you be out $100,000.00 or more of inventory when ALL OF US expected an acquittal in your case whether a early ruling or a much later one. This is similar to the way he tricked you on the 2B deal as well.

All I can say is that while its hard to believe, he really IS BOUND LEGALLY by the Superior Court ruling and once he calms down he may NOT want to look like a total idiot and may reconsider and do the right thing and acquit you. I know that sounds far out but he DOES have a boss that he must answer to.

Fortunately (and I know waiting is hard to do) he will see a conviction overturned by your appeal and perhaps there is some way you can be compensated for his wrongful ruling and not have to suffer financially for it. I know you are suffering the indignity of a loss (if that happens) and that the indignity is as BAD or WORSE than the financial hardship. Hopefully Alan, with all his experience, will have a way to complain to the justice minister at this injustice and that it can be rushed ahead to minimize the indignity and damages you are suffering.

If these http://www.legal-rights.org/images/tukas.gif were to sit in OUR SHOES for just one MONTH never mind the almost 3 years it has been so far, they would have a taste of what it is like.

The WORST part is you are very aware that they asked Guy right at the beginning if you or I could stand up and fight right the way to the Supreme Court of Canada. That tells me that they CLEARLY KNEW that we were NOT breaking the law and that we COULD go all the way if we had the financial resources. You CANNOT get there if you are convicted and lose the appeals so they KNOW we would NOT LOSE. And HOW would a lousy RCMP officer KNOW or CARE about that if it was NOT a CONSPIRACY. They don't usually tell the GOFERS that kind of stuff!!!

So they always KNEW we were acting lawfully and someone or something was PUTTING them up to this and they sought to DESTROY US and break our BACKS if they could. Its NOT about the LAW but about some sort of POLITICAL INTERFERENCE that's is totally improper. Perhaps we should pursue the questions asked of Guy in a civil action??

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gunsmoke2
June 2nd, 2001, 12:55 AM
Hi TTRK,

The bad ass judge has said alot of things. I have the transcript here where he says that if CBC is doing the same that he would have to aquit the accused. He also says he has to apply the law equally in regards to CBC.

The stuff about not waiting is TOTAL BULL---- as we don't have crystall balls and how was ANYONE to know how the Superior Court would rule last Oct.? All he said that he would be bound by a superior decision either way. In fact as you know the Crown tried to put the Superior court appeals on hold til the Supreme Court ?. What if this happened ? where would I be now ? waiting another year and a half. There is no relevence to to ask for a decision in Oct versus waiting til when ? and what that decision would have been. Could ANYONE know that.

Un fortunatly we can't force him to to do the right thing while the case is STILL ongoing and he has the opportunatly until he gives a sentence. The bad ass judge I will insist that my lawyers take off their gloves or don't come to court. As I want to show as much as possible how wrong this turd is for Superior court by every argument given that he rejects. What a turd.

GS2

ed12
June 3rd, 2001, 03:39 AM
thk's for the metion in legal-right's.org
i am one of the ontario {win's}
may-29-2001 everything was returned
though i was not in this country when it happened
it still did happen
this could be a long post but there is no need
here is a short brief for thoese who need to know
the ONTARIO CROWN'S are saying they want nothing to do with
the R.C. act
the RCMP are saying the same thing.
the olny people who are BITCHING right now are the PAID-FOR'S at BELL-CANADA...and they tried..
as to that i told MR.IAN.ANGUS show the judge these cards
one blue<dishnetwork> one red/white<dishnetwork>
one blue/white/yellow <bell-express-vu-lp.echostar>
judge said all but anything that said just that goe's back
the BITCH bell paid for was jaw to the floor.
and he said straight to the point
the LAW is what matters NOT YOUR PAY CHK
my 2%
regards

powder
June 4th, 2001, 02:53 PM
ITS TIME FOR EVERYONE TO COMPLAIN TO THEIR MEMBERS OF PARLIMENT,FOR WASTING TIME AND MONEY TO PROTECT THE INTERESTS OF BEV & STARCHOICE, FIRST CHOICE ETC.WHO HAVE NO PRODUCT BUT FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE CRTC.TTRK SHOULD DESIGN A QUICK LINK LETTER THAT COULD BE SENT OUT TO THE SITTING AND OPPOSITION MEMBERS OF PARLIMENT

ed12
June 5th, 2001, 01:46 AM
to the nick that sent me a e-mail
the mail adm is down
so without futher delay
ian angus
1-905-753-2500
i hope this helps
adm's pl let this one stand
thks in advance
my2%
regards

ed12
June 5th, 2001, 01:49 AM
mr ian angus
sorry
my2%
regards