Anyone else get this email today?

[simple]

WTF?? anyone heard of these people?
I am the associate editor at a trade magazine called Satellite Broadband. I
am writing a story for the magazine about hacking DBS systems and how much
it costs the industry. I want to add a little more light on the issue and
talk to some people who do hack into it and get free access to satellite
television. I know that it is legal in Canada and I will most definitely
make that a solid point in the article. I know speaking to a reporter might
be difficult for you but I will source you in any manner you would like to
be sourced to conceal identity or even not mention your Web address in the
story. The whole point here is for me to get a grip on how this process
works and what it takes.

If you would like to make sure that I am who I say I am, go to
xxx.thebroadbandspace.com I have numerous stories there you can check out.
I even design some of the parts of the Web site. I would greatly appreciate
it if someone got back to me by the end of the week. I'm very interested in
learning about the process that allows people to pirate television.

Let's be clear that I am not judging you. If it was legal to get free
satellite TV in the U.S., I doubt there would be many, including myself, who
would not go to some extent to get it. I thank you for taking the time to
read this email and look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely,
Peter Jakel
Associate Editor
Satellite Broadband







Simple.

[RiseStar]

Ya, I got an email from them also, was going to call them and see whats its all about tomorrow

I smell a rat, but, go for it if you're brave.

[gunsmoke2]

Very unusual approach and not Professional. I have been contacted and was in several newspapers including the Nationalpost magazine. I have recently been contacted twice by wired magazine for a story scheduled for release in August. The magazine sells in many stores. Very odd and so is his comments. I would qualify him to the best you can and DON'T answer any questions until you are satisfied... think about it and DON'T respond to any questions til the next communication. Anything you say can be used in court.


GS2

[simple]

while I thank you for for this opportunity I will have to deline at this
point in time. Yes you are correct Grey/Black market DSS is legal in
Ontario, Canada and other provinces I would prefer not to draw un-needed
attention from those that are opposed to us.

Thanks!

ASKING D@#.they can give you there cost for there signal integrity division's payroll,then they can give you the cost of ecm's that kill there sub'd card's,by giving you the actual replacement cost and s/h for replacing those card's,then they can tell you if they would like how many real customer's they lost income from due to the service interruption's from the ecm's.

ok if they give you answer's on these you add them up then decide how truthfull those #'s are and multiply by that %,and you have a ballpark figure.

those are COST.

NOW IF YOU WANT TO SPECULATE AND MAKE ASSUMPTION'S;

THAT IN A PERFECT WORLD WHERE EVERYONE WHO COULD AFFORD TO PAY,and legally is required to do so ,but presntly are using alternative method's to access there programming .
but in the pefect world were suddenly unable to access there programming,AND HAD NO OTHER alternative,and you want to assume they WOULD USE THERE SERVICE,because there was no way to recieve it otherwise,THAT # YOU MAKE UP,IS A GUESSTIMATE,IT'S NOT A COST OR LOSS REVENUE,IT DOESN'T AND CAN'T SHOW UP ON THE BALANCE SHEET AS EITHER.

and article that's main intent is to quantify this COST, in print result's in continuing the mythical spin and sympathy to establish it as a fact by or for the industry .

the cost issue is played to shareholder's as one of many reason for not meeting projected goal's on revenue.

anyone wanting to do an article that examine's the cost figure's they give,and ?'s them on what they consist of
i'm sure will find some large projection of lost income from people who would otherwise be there customer's,if they were able to shut off anyone who wasn't paying,and they might as well include canadian's.

nobody will challenge there #'s,and it really doesn't make a big difference if they do.

i think there are more people out there that couldn't afford to sub to what they would like to see,they are probably getting at least a small sub from them and other's.
there not going to get any new sub's from this group,if they are successful in stopping access.

there ability to grow and get new sub's is getting tougher,the market get's smaller a time passes,and it is affected by strong competition from dish,upgrading of cable too digital that offer's all there programming except the nfl,with very attractive and competitive price's.


sorry,this issue of the phenominal cost this is to the industry,just irk's me because it's so misleading and i've never seen it challenged.

i'd like to read his article after he finish's is,see if it's a documentary or a fiction.












Originally posted by simple
WTF?? anyone heard of these people?
I am the associate editor at a trade magazine called Satellite Broadband. I
am writing a story for the magazine about hacking DBS systems and how much
it costs the industry. I want to add a little more light on the issue and
talk to some people who do hack into it and get free access to satellite
television. I know that it is legal in Canada and I will most definitely
make that a solid point in the article. I know speaking to a reporter might
be difficult for you but I will source you in any manner you would like to
be sourced to conceal identity or even not mention your Web address in the
story. The whole point here is for me to get a grip on how this process
works and what it takes.

If you would like to make sure that I am who I say I am, go to
xxx.thebroadbandspace.com I have numerous stories there you can check out.
I even design some of the parts of the Web site. I would greatly appreciate
it if someone got back to me by the end of the week. I'm very interested in
learning about the process that allows people to pirate television.

Let's be clear that I am not judging you. If it was legal to get free
satellite TV in the U.S., I doubt there would be many, including myself, who
would not go to some extent to get it. I thank you for taking the time to
read this email and look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely,
Peter Jakel
Associate Editor
Satellite Broadband







Simple.

[One Eyed Jack]

Simple someone should tell this guy to call Dave and ask him!

later,
jack

[To The Real King!!]

Hi Everyone,

I disagree that we should tell this guy to ask Dave because they will then only tell their side of the story.

In fact Canadians don't subscribe for ONLY one reason. We are NOT given the opportunity to subscribe because our government do not give DirecTV® permission to allow us to subscribe.

That is known as CENSORSHIP and is WRONG, plain and simple.

Judges in courts in Canada have ruled that the signal is NOT prohibited in Canada yet we cannot subscribe. So that leaves ONLY one way to get the signal and that is to decode it by any means we can. The judge in a recent appeal in the case of Al Gregory, the Honourable Mr. Justice Pierre Tessier said exactly that. Canadians can get this signal by any means they CAN which includes hacks and surreptitious subscriptions that use false and phony American addresses. That too is NOT against the law. So Canadians have the courts permission to "hack" this signal if that is a choice open to us by our abilities. If its not then we can purchase that ability from someone who has it to offer.

Don't let DirecTV® be the ONLY one who presents their opinion as they will call us PIRATES and THIEVES and that is NOT the case at all but that may NOT be understood by some folks.

I am going to try to contact this person but if SIMPLE wants to send me his E-mail address I will be glad to contact him on behalf of legal rights. I do this often and I will appear on "Dana Pretzer's" show this Sunday night for 45 minutes and that is available on Internet Radio.

The easiest way is to use REAL AUDIO to tune it in. Go to the web site at

http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/pretdd/index.htm

this Sunday night at 11 PM Eastern standard time.

Go there well before the show and tune it in (or go there NOW and tune in whatever is on) to be sure that your computer has all the resources to receive it. Mr. Ian Angus was there two weeks ago and I will be posting his Interview on

http://www.legal-rights.org

as soon as I can. It was a great interview and interested parties should go and listen to it on legal-rights as soon as I post it or in Dana's own archives on his site.
If you can tune those you should be able to tune the LIVE SHOW.

Don't forget 11 PM this sunday NIGHT at 11 PM.

The fact that Canadians are ALLOWED to hack the DirecTV® signal is not something to HIDE, rather we should BOAST about that right which shows just how BAD our governments censorship policy is in a supposed DEMOCRACY. They should ALLOW Canadians to subscribe to this service by AUTHORIZING the AMERICANS and letting our lousy duopoly programmers have to compete for the listener ship just like theaters, magazines, newspapers, video rental stores and other media have to do. Why should anyone in Canada be PROTECTED and given a MONOPOLY by our government when Canadians want freedom of CHOICE.

Its nothing to be ASHAMED of except for our government who SHOULD be ASHAMED of their actions in a democracy. DEMOCRACY is a little like a pregnancy folks, you cannot be a little pregnant or a little democratic. Its ONE or the OTHER all the way.

WHY the government does NOT like this fact is because it is LIVING PROOF that CANADA is NOT a DEMOCRACY so long as this last vestige of censorship standshttp://www.legal-rights.org/images/ttrk.gif

It may be astounding to Canadians to realize this but it IS FACT. And this is what reporters need to be told.

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Thanks & Good Luck,

To The REAL King!!
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[simple]

PJakel@intertec.com

Peter Jakel
Associate Editor
Satellite Broadband

[To The Real King!!]

Thanks Simple,

I sent him an E-mail and asked him to get in touch with me because I want our views put forward in his article too. It was largely based on the post above and I think that we Canadians should NOT be embarrassed about this it is our GOVERNMENT who need to hang their heads in shame.

In any case I will let you know what comes of this and if I get any response etc.

I will report back here whatever happens and we will see if we can get our point across beside the DirecTV® point of view which is entirely different. If DirecTV® has ANY brains at all they would be fighting for the same thing were are and they could benefit for YEARS to come. They could hire the current "grey market" vendors as their sales agents and even give the Canadian installations to dealers who sell cards now and as it would then become ILLEGAL in Canada only the scum people who WANT to break the law (and who do ExpressVu stuff now) would be selling DirecTV® hacks.

And they SURE would NOT be too open about it now would they.

But don't worry folks, that will NEVER EVER HAPPEN because the "old boys club" of protectionists in the liberal government would NEVER let their BUDDIES at BEV and NO Choice have to face competition. Hell they couldn't last a MONTH if that was to happen and they PAY the right people to be sure it does not happen.

So probably we will be able to hack FOREVER because the ONLY WAY to stop it is to Authorize the Americans and that will NEVER happen to those who BUY monopoly positions in this country. We have the FINEST politicians MONEY will buy and the Canadian PUBLIC seems to like it that way.

Go Know!!! :)


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Thanks & Good Luck,

To The REAL King!!
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[simple]

TTRK....


Great interview..... I hope all canadians take a listen and understand exactly what is going on here in canada concerning DTV and BEV...... Dana has placed it in the Archives section if anyone cares to take a listen.

Or you can click here....

http://www.satellitegod.com/pretzer/reg.ram


Simple.

[antiecmer]

TTRK

your a very intelligent indiviual its good to see that you are aware of All the BS Going on in Canada. But the end of the interview was cut off. I beleive the last question was will canadians have to worry about thier DT* dishes in the future? can you answer this? since it got cut off at the end.


Happy Testing!

[DaveCan]

TTRK,
Excellent interview.