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birdhouse
June 26th, 2001, 01:06 PM
Ya just gotta love statistics!!

Number of physicians in the US: 700,000.

Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year: 120,000.

Accidental deaths per physician: 0.171

(US Dept. of Health & Human Services)



Number of gun owners in the US: 80,000,000.

Number of accidental gun deaths per year: (all age groups) 1,500.

Accidental deaths per gun owner: 0.0000188



Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than
gun


owners.



"FACT: Not everyone has a gun, but everyone has at least one Doctor."



Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors
before

this gets out of hand.




[Edited by birdhouse on June 26th, 2001 at 01:17 PM]

#1 Leafs Fan
June 26th, 2001, 01:14 PM
Its not the accidental gun deaths that worry me its the intentional ones. I would like to see the statistic that shows how many gun owners intentionally shot and killed someone VS. how many doctors intentionally killed oneof their patients.

jersey
June 26th, 2001, 05:13 PM
most of the intentional gun deaths were not caused by registered gun owners but rather by criminals that broke into law abiding gun owners houses and stole a gun or used one they purchased illegally from another criminal. Ban guns and only criminals will have no problem getting their hands on one.

zcubed
June 26th, 2001, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by jersey
most of the intentional gun deaths were not caused by registered gun owners but rather by criminals that broke into law abiding gun owners houses and stole a gun or used one they purchased illegally from another criminal. Ban guns and only criminals will have no problem getting their hands on one.

Well said!!!

Bullduck
June 27th, 2001, 03:10 AM
The doctor deaths are grossly underreported I know for a fact. There are many ways to cover your tracks & many inadvertant events are covered up by hospitals trying to avoid scrutiny.However gun related deaths are almost always reported. So the comparison is even more skewed.I'll give up my doctor before I give up my guns.No doctor was there to save me when some "Crack Head" tried to jack my car.But "Mr.Glock" was there for me & I didnt become a statistic.

djc33
June 27th, 2001, 07:19 AM
If the criminals are getting their guns by stealing them from Registered gun owners, if we ban guns where will they steal them from? You shot down your own theory there jersey.

later,
djc33

jersey
June 27th, 2001, 01:26 PM
drug shipment comes in it isn't much trouble to throw a few AK-47s in with it. When a containerized shipment full of whatever comes in it isn't much trouble to throw a few Barettas in the bottom. Criminals will always have guns and they will always get them in a criminal fashion. Gun control never has and never will stop them from being armed. It will only stop law abiding citizens from having the ability to protect themselves. Want a 9mm submachine gun? I was offered one once. I'm not a criminal. I got my gun with a permit. Still not much of a match for whoever wound up with the 9mm Schmeizer though is it?

djc33
June 27th, 2001, 01:46 PM
trying to make an anti gun statement. Sorry for the confusion, I was just trying to point out the contradiction in your statement.

My way to solve these problems is step up the death penalty in this country. I know alot of people will not agree with me, but I say fry'em!

Wow, I think we have totally taken the entire Jokes & Humor forum in the wrong direction!

later,
djc33

cerberus
June 27th, 2001, 02:30 PM
Well said...well said...well said birdhouse...


Did I say well said?

cerberus
June 27th, 2001, 02:32 PM
Well said...well said...well said birdhouse...


Did I say well said?

I didn't?

Well let me say this now...[yellow]well said[/b]

blcjet
June 27th, 2001, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by djc33


Wow, I think we have totally taken the entire Jokes & Humor forum in the wrong direction!

later,
djc33

:gg

Methinks you may be right! :D

Those are quite humorous statistics about the good old 'docs though.

cf
June 27th, 2001, 08:29 PM
in texas and other states that legalized concealed carry of weapons violent crime rate was drasitcally reduced. More guns equal a safer society, so go buy guns!

CalgarySat
June 27th, 2001, 08:37 PM
Well of course it went down. Let's think back to the Cold War here. Balance of Power come to mind? If you were going to use a nuke on your neighbor, he was going to use one back. So no one wanted to start anything. Same principal with guns. I say let everyone have one. And please, let us carry them here in Canada too!! :) Not that I can't get one here. I know a couple of guys I could call up and have one that afternoon. I just don't really need one and since I'm not a criminal I'm not going to get one illegally. My .08 for what it's worth.

fordruid
June 27th, 2001, 08:55 PM
Gun control works...Hitler proved that in Germany:rolleyes: (my joke for this forum)


Actually, no new laws are needed, just enforcement of existing laws. New laws only make honest people become criminals for their own safety.

jersey
June 27th, 2001, 09:16 PM
wrong direction, sorry. And I like my friends idea for the death penalty. He's a lawyer and wants the death penalty to be carried out randomly. May happen next day, may happen 15 years from now. Don't let them know until about 5 minutes beforehand.

SMOKER
June 30th, 2001, 03:42 AM
We don't need the death penalty at all. Every one should be against it.How soon after will they start killing for parking tickets.Alright thats pushing it a little , but think about it, what will they add to their list of acceptable crimes to push that needle in your leg. Satallite piracy?

travis_cornell
June 30th, 2001, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by SMOKER
We don't need the death penalty at all. Every one should be against it.How soon after will they start killing for parking tickets.Alright thats pushing it a little , but think about it, what will they add to their list of acceptable crimes to push that needle in your leg. Satallite piracy?

The death penalty is surely a topic which will elicit alot of debate. The death penalty has already been abolished once and brought back again. I do not think society here in the U.S. will ever allow the death penalty for crimes which do not incur the death of another person. I cannot see it happening. I think your argument on that point is weak. Perhaps in the past, but today, in the information age, it aint gonna happen. Smoker you might be different than alot of us but I can tell you one thing about myself. If someone tortured and murdered a family member of mine, no way a life sentence would ever satisfy me that justice had been done. That's just me. Personally, I feel safer knowing that some monsters are forever removed society with no possibility of ever harming anyone again. I hope you don't think I am starting a pissing contest, just expressing my opinion as you did.

birdhouse
June 30th, 2001, 08:13 AM
Could this please be moved to another Forum.

Thank you

megados
July 1st, 2001, 06:21 AM
birdhouse, the thread started with a joke, and turned to a debate. I'll leave it here, as long as it stays "in bounds".

I would have to agree with TC on this one. How many of you would leave some criminal who had harmed, or killed one of your loved ones to live in jail, knowing for years the #@$%^ was alive while your loved one(s) were dead? I know I couldn't leave it at that.

tinkr
July 1st, 2001, 10:45 AM
While the death penalty may not
stop anyone from killing someone
it sure keeps them from doing it
again.

I personally don't want these
people out here arround my family
and don't really want to feed and
house them for years.I have enough
problems doing this for the ones I
love.

Maybe we could make the care of these
people the responsibality of the people
that are against the death penalty.

lookn4u
July 2nd, 2001, 06:45 AM
Here in TX it cost just over $24,000 a year to house each inmate. I think all people in jail for life without the possibility of parole should be put to death. I have potholes on my street and my kids use six year old textbooks because these people do not have to work and have a constitutional right to air-conditioning, cable T.V., a free college education (which they will never get out to use) The list of tax payer funded freebies goes on and on. So I say kill them all and put the rest on a chain-gang fixing the potholes on my street.

travis_cornell
July 2nd, 2001, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by tinkr

Maybe we could make the care of these
people the responsibality of the people
that are against the death penalty.

I kind of like the way the Chinese do it. They execute them then send their families a bill for the bullet.

tinkr
July 2nd, 2001, 04:17 PM
The thing is,just because they get a
"life" sentence doesn't mean they won't
get out.
If it is premeditated,gas um and ya don't
have to worry about them getting out.
I am also in Texas,ya think it's something
in the water?
BTW,I consider DWIs premeditated. If
you didn't think about killing someone
with your actions,you SHOULD have.

mascdr
July 3rd, 2001, 08:32 AM
There was a horrible mistake at our local hospital. A man who was scheduled for a vasectomy was instead given a --- change operation. The doctors gathered at his bed afterward to tell him the bad news.

Ohhhh no!! the patient wailed, “I’ll never be able to experience an erection again!”

“Of course you’ll still be able to experience an erection,” replied one surgeon, only it will have to be someone else’s.

……………nyuk-nyuk-nyuk

zcubed
July 3rd, 2001, 09:08 AM
:D

jd3
July 8th, 2001, 02:10 PM
AND NOW FOR SOME STATISTICAL INFO

Number of physicians in the US: 700,000.

Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year: 120,000.

Accidental deaths per physician... 0.171

(U.S. Dept. of Health & Human Services)


Number of gun owners in the US: 80,000,000.

Number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups) 1,500.

Accidental deaths per gun owner: 0.0000188


Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times

more dangerous than gun owners.


"FACT: Not everyone has a gun, but everyone has at least one Doctor."



Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We

must ban doctors before this gets out of hand.


As a Public Health Measure I have withheld the

statistics on Lawyers for fear that the shock could

cause people to seek medical aid.
>>

BugMan
July 9th, 2001, 10:05 AM
TC is wrong about one thing. The death penalty can be incurred for a crime where there was no murder. The only crime that I know of that has a death penalty sentence other than murder is treason!

SammyBoy
July 9th, 2001, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by Bullduck
The doctor deaths are grossly underreported I know for a fact. There are many ways to cover your tracks & many inadvertant events are covered up by hospitals trying to avoid scrutiny.

What's even worse is when they screw up and the person doesn't die, but is left with brain damage and unable to care for themselves. This also happens much more than is reported.