Legal in Canada?

[taximan]

Does anyone know if this is legal in Canada?...This is the scenario, a company called hpsat ( London ) sells direct tv subscriptions to customers for $25/month. You put down a deposit on the card, and then pay $25 month for the service. They have a US legit subscription complete with $50 pre paid movies, and pbviously clone that account. Is selling a monthl subscription legal ? They have a store, but you don't see this " deal " posted anywhere, maybe there's a reason for that eh?

[Lager]

It would seem to me that the RCA would prevent them from being allowed to do this. In esscence they are acting as a provider. I am sure someone with a better explanation will go into more detail.

Lager

[gunsmoke2]

So are you saying basically that they are cloning a subscription and programing your card with the clone ?


GS2

[taximan]

Hi Gunsmoke, you put down a $175 deposit, they provide the hu card with the cloned package. Then you pay them $25 a month. My friend signed up for this, and I asked him how he feels about being limited to $50 worth of pay movies per month, and paying $300 each and every year. He replied well at least he is protected from ecm worries. It got me wondering though if this monthly fee is legal in Canada, I haven't seen anyone else offering this type of service.

Protected from an ECM? Maybe. Protected for continuing TV forever and ever? Hardly! If this is a scam, the operators may well take the money and run after a few weeks or months. If DirecTV discovers, inadvertently or intentionally, which "subscriber" is involved, everyone's cheap TV goes down and goes down hard.

[chipdoo]

Its funny you say that..... I saw a website today that offers XVu to the US for a monthly charge!
Is this legal? I thought XVu has no privledges in the US. It wasnt them directly, but they have package offerings!!!
-Chip

Unsure we're talking about the same thing, here. The Bell ExpressVu address brokers who offer programming packages in the U.S. were not cloning access cards were they? My understanding is that each subscriber is merely using the address broker to subscribe, but "appear" to B.E.V. to be in merry ol' Canuckland. There've been similar arrangements for Canadians to subscribe to DirecTV, too, haven't there? The scheme "taximan" uncovered adds an interesting twist - a "subscription" with a hacked card to a presumably legitimately subscribed card. Given recent Canadian Superior Court rulings on hacking "unauthorized" signals, it might hold up. It'll take a sharper legal mind than mine (not an especially unlikely possibility) to figure this one out.

[gunsmoke2]

They should can sure ECM clones.. and it looks like take your money and run..programming US cards in Canada is legal but fraud is illegal.


GS2

[GhostDog]

Sounds very suspect... the whole scenerio. Don't waste $$$ on that.

Dime

[LastRide]

I heard of the same thing happening in other parts of Canada.My friend who works for FedEx just ran into someone who subscribes monthly for $53 Canadian a month plus $80 a year fee.This person got hit by the recent hashing and had to send his card back and they in turn would send him another card back.The cards I believe are dummy cards or something because he says their is no picture of a football player or H card satellite pic. on it.The fee you pay covers the overnight shipping too and from whenever you go down.The person says he gets all the channels at that price.I just heard of this myself recently.Anyways,this doesn't sound like its too legit to me.This person has been subscribing like this for around a year or two from what I believe.