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To The Real King!!
July 9th, 2001, 09:41 PM
Hi Everyone,

I would have to say that Dimedealer is either a young lad with virtually no understanding of the law and no interest either or is completely disconnected from reality as a businessman. As we all know, if any prosecution of "proceeds of Crime" is successful, assets can be seized world wide including in any so called "safe heaven." And the RCMP have all this info already and know exactly where any worldwide assets of anyone in Satellite are.

They have done across the board investigations of anyone who offers DSS products through a web site. This has been proven via Revenue Canada who have also been asked to follow up on these investigations and have done that. I am aware of lawyers in both the Cayman Islands and the Bahamas who they HAVE contacted. But I have no written proof and frankly I don't need any.

Sure we generally cannot prove this but 55 seizures were made in my case and 86 more charges of "proceeds of Crime" are being kept in what the police describe as an ongoing investigation. They have investigated me in 6 different countries. And this after I have been twice acquitted by two levels of court in Canada. And I cannot get access to many of the "informations" laid for those who know what that is because the RCMP say it would be too revealing of their investigation so all the information is "sealed."

One might wonder "what crime" since I have been acquitted twice but it is all still "sealed" as they seek other ways to try to get me and Appeal my case to the Appeals court of Quebec in the hope of reversing it.

It is also clear to those of us in the know that Excuse Vu has hired a plethora of investigators who do keep a file on all of us and even go through our garbage looking for evidence. This issue of searching our garbage has already come out in two court cases astounding even the judges. They also Have possession of other of my property seized by the police as I will be suing several entities about this. But I am aware of it and became so only recently through legal discovery.


I am sure most of you know that NDS and ExpressVu have jointly sued me and my wife and company for 100 million dollars in damages and 10 million in expenses. That's a total of 110 million and I have never even touched their signal. They feel anyone selling DirecTV® is causing them damages (I guess in this amount) and they will be suing many others as well. So any one selling DirecTV® can expect to be open to these suits and especially if BEV win in the Supreme Court. Of course the defence is that there could be no damage done if it is legal to sell DirecTV® in Canada as no law is being broken. Its very obscure but they will try, and not just against me. I am being penalized by going to the front and center for the industry. How dare I oppose the establishment.

And when people stupidly talk about Millionaire dealers it's possible that he is talking about me. I was a millionaire in the 1960's, in the 70's in the 80,s and the 90's but as DSS started in the 1994-1995 time frame my money did not come from the Satellite business. In the Past I ran a chain of 30,000 sq ft carpet warehouses and ran Canada's largest computer Manufacturer and made and lost millions in the stock market too. I earned every penny I have ever had as my dad died in poverty. The government knows all about that so what does it have to do with anything here? The Government has all my money and property seized since 1998. Today I am unemployed and live off loans by many good friends but what has that got to do with anything? This is NOT about me (I have done VERY WELL fighting my own battles thank you); its about the satellite community in Canada.

I have said it many times and I will repeat it. The money collected for the Legal-rights battle goes ONLY to fight the case of Canam satellite (whos owners I have never met and do not know) because their case is representative of many cases in Canada and we did not want ExpressVu to crush a small obscure dealer in Vancouver because he could not afford to fight the battle. And he surprisingly WON the initial round all on his own which is the REAL reason we are now supporting him. He is both a DOER and a winner.

Why did legal-rights choose this case? Because when NOBODY even knew this case was even happening, Canam pulled up a BIG WIN in the Supreme Court of BC against ExpressVu. They fought and won the excellent BRENNER ruling by themselves (and were in debt after the case) and that case reversed the direction for Bell Express Vu who had WON two injunctions against defendants in Ontario against Pas and Tedmonds. This was a VERY BIG loss for ExpressVu and the start of the reversal of the tide. Bell took that to the BC Court of Appeals and LOST again with our supporting the case financially. Because Canam had no funds for that battle, the legal-rights satellite organization agreed to underwrite it with some help from other Canadians who want to remain anonymous and this was the first PENNY that was ever spent from our trust fund held by the lawyer Mr. Ian Angus. We won the case and they, Bell ExpressVu took it to the Supreme Court of Canada and this gave us the opportunity, once and for all to get a Supreme Court Ruling on the matter for ALL Canadians. So we agreed to take over the case and support it again with the HELP of Canadians who would benefit, particularly dealers.

Just so everyone knows the legal-rights satellite organization is the organization of all Canadians who join the battle and is run primarily by myself, GS2 and Mr. Dave Fuss of Incredible electronics in Toronto. All of us are HEAVY supporters both financially and with time and effort and WORK. Dave Fuss and GS2 are the two biggest donators having personally donated (well in excess of $10,000.00 each) and I donated $5000.00 which I borrowed as I personally still have no access to my money. Many others have donated too in varying amounts and Fixer1 who is a good friend, has raised money via his efforts in excess of $10,000.00 as well I am told. The three organizers, Dave Fuss, GS2 and myself have all been charged by the Police but Dave Fuss had BOTH his seizures overturned because they were conducted in an illegal manner and has no legal issues outstanding against him, I have been twice acquitted by courts and now will have to go to the Quebec Appeals court and GS2 has applied to appeal his ruling as well and will be doing that.

<font color="#FF0000" size="6"><strong><u>Not one RED CENT of any money collected by the Legal Rights Satellite Organization has ever gone or will ever go to any of the private cases of the organizers of Legal-rights or anyone else that we have not reported on openly. All such reports, if any, will be made on the http://www.legal-rights.org website. Thus far all monies we have collected have been spent ONLY on lawyers fees (no expenses of any kind) for the Canam battles both in the BC appeals court an now in the SUPREME COURT OF CANADA. PERIOD!! </u></strong></font>

I hope that is finally clear to everyone and including dimedealer who has made outrageous statements about millionaire dealers etc. That money will go and has gone ONLY to support the Supreme Court case in Canam and NOTHING ELSE, not even travel expenses. We pay for ALL OUR OWN travel and locations for our meetings are at David Fuss's place or at various lawyers offices. Nothing ever goes to anything except lawyers FEES for the supreme Court Battle.

So Dimedealer you have now heard it from Mr. Legal -rights if that was intended to be a reference to me.

"Just The Facts" is a man who has no satellite business and has pledged his funds that he collects to legal-rights.org and I ask him to send them to legal-rights in the Form of Mr. Ian Angus who is holding our trust account for this. He and his http://www.caffii.net/index1.html have unselfishly worked hard at raising money for the Supreme Court battle and he has no personal interest in this other than his satisfaction at not seeing Bell ExpressVu get their way with the Rights of all Canadians and insomuch as it concerns information Websites such is this one, is in the interest of the satellite community in the USA as well. The Caffii organization was formed a few years ago and have done much research to the real reason that these prosecutions have taken place and he has informed people on his website as well as had a complete article on the donations by Bell ExpressVu and Starchoice to the liberal government in Canada. Who they lobbied, who their lobbyists were and other important details that explain much of the WHY's this has happened.

Make no mistake but this is the FINAL BATTLE that will determine the rights of all Canadians as it pertains to the freedom to watch signals eminating from foreign sources anywhere. If we do NOT WIN this battle then Foreign encrypted signals will be prohibited to all Canadians and that will signal the end of DSS in Canada, the end of Web Sites such as this one and RiseStar's site or any of the sites operating in Canada and it will be the END of ANY satellite business, large dish or small that do not sell ONLY the BEV and StarChoice systems. Those will be the ONLY two allowed.

This is a time of great PERIL for the satellite community, a time when we face a "do or die" situation and I have difficulty understanding why these petty battles persist. When we formed legal-rights some 2 years ago we introduced something NEW to the lawyers across Canada that the crown already had. That was called COOPERATION. Yes, we posted all the results and benefits Much of it was forwarded to lawyers only upon their requests and we emailed them to advise them that it was available to them and these were the results of the money spent on legal fees by GS2, Myself and Dave Fuss and we attended all the court cases to get the transcripts and to KNOW what the crown witness were saying in their testimony. GS2 and David Fuss attended the BC Court of appeals at their own expense. And then this info was POSTED on Legal-right.org website to be used and shared by all other defendants in their cases.


For the first time in HISTORY we beat the Crown at there own game of SHARING INFO among the lawyers and even among the defendants themselves. We have two defendants who fought their OWN BATTLES based on this info by the names of Mr. Levin in Winnipeg and Mr. Jacques D'Argy of Drummondville Quebec and BOTH of them WON against high powered lawyers by the Crown and by WIC (Western International Broadcasting) another Canadian conglomerate.

This would not likely have happened had it not been for the vast pool of resources that we posted on the Http://www.legal-rights.org website. We even got permission from Mr. Ian Angus to post his constitutional arguments which were used in ALL of the Quebec Cases that have been won so far as well as in several Ontario cases. Specifically the 2B Factum of Mr. Ian Angus of Anguslaw, posted on legal-rights. In return and because he is the MASTER of these satellite issues in Canada I posted a banner for Anguslaw on the legal-rights.org website. Not a deal or anything just a receprocal gesture because Mr. Angus has been so helpful to many who were not even his clients.


The strange thing is because of the site and the help we have given to all the defedants their lawyers regularly call Myself and GS2 and Dave Fuss to share info and to offer up rulings the moment they get them and even to ask opinion and cooperate in how we go about appeals and court proceedings, something previously UNHEARD OF in Canada among lawyers. We have earned this credibility by what we have done and none of us has ever received nor asked for one red penny for this. We do it all voluntarily while fighting our own cases at great personal expense as well.

So Dimedealer any impression that you had that this was some kind of "pool" for Canadian dealers is a figment of your imagination and I have made thousands of posts here and on RiseStars site and on DR7 before its demise and I have explained that this is NOT THE CASE at least 100 times or more. I would BET you that most people reading this KNOW THAT and I have been afraid to say it more often lest I bore people with being repetative.

You should have known that and not been under any false impression because it has been said often enough on all the sites.

I have NOT benefitted by ONE RED CENT nor has any other member of legal rights and in fact we have pooled all the info we have paid for and given it freely to legal-rights so that it can benefit all other Canadians. We have done NOTHING BUT GIVE to this organization and I spent $250,000.00 in my case alone (and that of my wife) and I have shared all that info.

In addition I spend virtually 50 hours a week minimum researching and gathering information for both the Legal-rights website which I alone maintain AND for the website of SCAC the Satellite Communications Association of Canada whose web site I have also maintained single handedly for the past year or so. Its at http://WWW.SCACANADA.COM/index.html and is the official association that has represented Canadian Satellite dealers for the past 18 years or so since 1983. These organizations have credibility in Canada and I also do and maintain their website for free.



So I give all I can and more as do all the organizers of legal-rights so please understand when someone else like yourself does not cooperate in any way, to us that makes you nothing but an uncaring person who is ONLYa taker from the industry and who is not willing to give anything back. There are many members such as (I wont mention names as there are too many to mention and I might forget a name) but these people have no money yet still work unceasingly to contact web sites and get our banner put up and to post articles and help us in every way they can.

So its not ONLY about money and many who have no means at all and are unemployed still work their bippy's of for us. And personally I respect that and the efforts of those Canadians and Americans who have little money and have sent in $20.00 or $50.00 to assist all Canadians. Every penny helps and I know that some who have sent in $20.00 have had a more difficult time sending that than others who have sent $1000.00 or even $5,000.00 because they are unemployed, dont have any money and have still made an effort, a supreme effort.

Those are the REAL people whose efforts I greatly respect. They are the people who will be talked of in 20 years when people tell their grandchildren how the Canadian Government tried to turn Canada into a non-democracy and that Canadians came together and fought the government and WON in the Supreme Court and thats why we are able to have the freedom to receive foreign signals today.

The Crumms, the GS2's, the TTRK's the Dave Fuss's, the Just The Facts and all the very many people who pitch in an work hard to assist, these are the people who will make history in Canada and who will help to keep our Country Free.

And I guess dimedealer that you will go into obscurity as one who turned up your nose at helping anyone but yourself as a greedy dealer and I am sure it does not bother you. I know it does not bother me either as I know there is no success without some small failures and there will always be some people who have little value to society as a whole and I respect your right to be that person. That is what a free country is about, the right to be somebody who cares or the right to sink into obscurity with nothing at all to be proud of. And noboy else will ever know either Dimedealer, except yourself.

If you ever want to change your mind because I have been polite enough to give you a detailed explanation, you are very welcome to but if you don't I understand that too. It wont be my first failure and it wont be my last. The only way to avoid failure is to do ABSOLUTELY nothing like you and when you actually do anything there is always the risk of failure. But I have lots of successes as well and thats because I am a DOER and thats always the way it will be. Doing has both the risk of failure and the wonderful pleasures of success and that's the way I like things.

Sorry Folks for the long post but hell, I am NOT known for short ones.

Thanks & Good Luck,

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GhostDog
July 10th, 2001, 01:54 AM
LOL TTRK, you really want me to start with you mr. 'angel' yourself. Haven't you ever heard the expression, 'People in Glass Houses don't throw Stones'? Well you sir, live in the biggest Glass House on the planet!!!!! I need not say anymore....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Dime

crzywhtboy
July 10th, 2001, 07:39 AM
I'm pretty new to all this...but I really appreciate the updates and I follow closely the reports from GS2 and TTRK. Maybe there is something I am missing here but it seems these two stand for Canadians everywhere in their battles with the Crown. If Dime Dealer would take the time to explain his position maybe I would see it differently than someone I would never spend a "dime" with.

Arrogant ***hole

Maybe I'm wrong, but it's easy to feel this way with your reply Dime Dealer.

GhostDog
July 10th, 2001, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by crzywhtboy
If Dime Dealer would take the time to explain his position maybe I would see it differently than someone I would never spend a "dime" with.


I will say this 1 time and 1 time only:

I HAVE TOO MUCH RESPECT FOR THIS SITE, ITS MEMBERS, AND THE OTHER ADMINS TO GET INVOLVED IN A 'WAR OF WORDS' WITH TTRK HERE.

I'm not sure where he gets his information, and I dont really care. I come to this site with good intentions, and my 'legal-rights' posts are generally limited to discussions on US laws and dealer raids. My posts on this forum are 100% non-political and I try to help people with DSS issues here and on IRC as best I can. I am not a politician, I sell DSS hardware.

What TTRK has mentioned is a personal matter between us, and I wish that he would have kept it as such. I do have email and I do have a phone and would feel much more comfortable discussing it this way.

This is one issue I don't care to discuss here. If TTRK had any tact he would email (or call me) with his concerns about whatever is bothering him. As an Admin. here TTRK should understand that this forum is not for bashing or fighting, and this is totally unprovoked here. I do not start fights here, and I will not be party to them either.

I come to learn, help and maybe sell some products along the way. Fighting TTRK is certainly not why I visit Pirate's Den.

TTRK, please bash me to your heart's content, cause I am ignoring you and this issue when it is addressed to me on this forum in this manner. I will discuss it by phone or email anytime however. Post what you want because I'm not getting into a fight with you here over this, under these conditions

Dime

PS. You are pretty new you are correct 'crzywhtboy', so I do forgive your off-hand remarks, If you would like to hear me 'explain my postition' feel free to PM or email me as I would be happy to explain. This is just not the place for it and TTRK knows better than that.

To The Real King!!
July 11th, 2001, 01:38 AM
Hi Dimedealer,

First of all I was not aware we were having a fight or a WAR and I don't consider it that at all. If you do, that's a shame. I was simply making clear something you have challenged PUBLICLY, not privately in the forum listed below and so because you are apparently suspended on the other forum, I posted here as well so you would see what I posted and the position I believed I was quite polite enough to explain to you in detail. Probably too MUCH detail for the average member who may not like my long posts (sorry Guys & Gals) .

So where do you get this private stuff?

Do you believe that Innermatrix's PUBLIC forums are somehow private.

No you challenged me by saying that the http://www.legal-rights.org was a "pool" of money for dealers who had been charged and I am certainly quite justified in clearly defending my position as there is NO TRUTH to that or your comment about millionaire dealers.

Anyone who does not believe me can simply click here


http://www.innermatrix.net/members/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4724


and read the PUBLIC thread and see who challenged who publicly.

But dimedealer only a child thinks a debate and a clear explanation is a "FIGHT" and I don't consider it that at all. And if you would grow up a little you too would understand that you just do not accuse something or someone falsely and then waltz away from it like you are trying to do here.

You and I are both members of both sites and do you not think many other members are too. As you cant answer right now on Innermatrix due to your suspension, one would think that you would welcome the opportunity to read what I have to say and to challenge it if you have some part of to take to task.

So a fight is one thing, this is a debate and a reply to what YOU said.

Reply or NOT I want it clear as to what legal-rights.org is and even if you are not a Canadian resident and so it does not concern you that much, Its a VERY important battle in the Supreme Court of Canada and I am sure your Toronto partner knows that. As I said above, this is the FINAL battle and it is a time of great peril to the Satellite community. So the LAST THING we need is a misinformation campaign by you or anyone and in a mistaken belief as you said, or otherwise. People need to know the TRUTH and not any false statements that are later said to be "mistaken beliefs". You can't use that "excuse" anymore after this clear post.

I have respected your right to think a certain way but you too should respect my rights to state the TRUTH of what legal-rights is and the fact that not one red penny has EVER gone to any of its directors or their legal cases. As I explain above, its quite the opposite. I simply do NOT believe you can use the "EXCUSE" of a mistaken belief any more after my very clear posthttp://www.legal-rights.org/images/ttrk.gif

And I like to be CLEAR, unambiguous and quite in the OPEN with what I have to say as this issue concerns the ENTIRE SATELLITE COMMUNITY and especially those Legal-rights supporters who might be mislead by your false beliefs.

Private ISSUE my ASS!!!

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Thanks & Good Luck,

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simple
July 11th, 2001, 05:36 AM
TTRK thanks for the caffii link... interesting reading.


Simple.

RiseStar
July 11th, 2001, 03:19 PM
Ok guys, this is closing before it gets ugly.

Thanks