The last WWF PPV

[scabs]

This is horrible news no more WWF PPV on D*V I am gonna die!!![Edited by scabs on August 19th, 2001 at 05:45 PM]

[Kooljim]

What do others think about this strategy? All other sat companies and cable will have WWF pay per views but not DTV.

[snowball]

World Wrestling Federation (WWF) sucks anyway. No loss.

Fake and totally ridiculous!

[allelup]

good maybe they will stop Ecming the cards :)

[scabs]

They must be loosing revenue on the big events.
It may be sign of things to come since they are looking for a big sale.
Lets just hope it isnt a sign of a total shut down of the system. Though I doubt that very seriously..

[allelup]

with a 10 million subscription base clientell i dought any shut down !

[Spree]

where did you hear this? I haven't heard that.

[scabs]

"" Spree-where did you hear this? I haven't heard that.""

From Jim Ross himself during the show..

[Ozzy]

Vince is up to something. This could be a contract ploy. I'm sure Vince is well aware that there are probably as many illigal cable boxes out there as there are D$V customers. This will just increase the revenue for cable box dealers.

[DiscoMan38]

use the bandwidth for more hi-def programing

[boogerman]

I believe that they said this would be the last PPV that would *only* be available through D*V. In the future, they will also be available through other cable and sat companies.

[abraKAdabra]

NO THIS IS THE LAST TIME U WILL SEE THE WWF PPV's on D*v.Vince nows that almost every cable Co. has steped up to digital cable,(and they don't make a black box for digital yet!!!)Or at least I don't know of one??Just think of all
the money he will generate!!!either U have cable or Dish #**
or U don't watch the PPV's. This will drop D*v stocks big time.U watch and see tomorrow!!!

[scabs]

I dont think the WWF has anything to do with this. See D*V buys the right to air the show for a said price. If D*V dont make enough orders to pay for the event then they lose money.
If it was WWF pulling the plug I would think they would pull the plug on the charlie system too.

[H20]

Maybe DTV stopped paying for the pay per views in anticipation of a sale sometime soon?? Charlie or SKY

any ideas?

[bdawg]

this was taken from wrestlezone.

The WWF has announced that the 8/19 SummerSlam PPV will be the last WWF PPV on DirecTV systems for the time being.

According to a DirecTV spokesperson, the company is going to pursue litigation with the WWF seeking money already paid to the Stamford-based promotion. Apparently the WWF is asking DirecTV to drop their financial claims so they can begin serious negotiations for a new contract.

According to an industry source, DirecTV was looking to up its stake in the WWF's PPV revenue, which is believed to be why negotiations stalled in the first place, and now since the WWF is the leader in the PPV industry, the WWF believed that it was time to start negotiating under their terms as they now have the leverage to do so.

According to a Broadcasting and Cable spokesperson, 15% of the WWF's PPV revenue comes from viewers who are with DirecTV.

More updates will follow.

[jesse]

You get in there and beat one of those big guys at their game and then you can say it's fake and or whatever, as far as it goes, I think Vince knows EXACTLY whats going on and he's the reason for it not being showed on D@#, after all, thats the only one they're not showing it on after this one so you go figure!!!

[lump]

I think you guys got it all wrong. earlier this month the World Wildlife Federation (WWF) won a court order odering the World Wrestling Federation (WWF) to stop using WWF call letters. i think they'll be back next month but with different call letters. just blowin' a little smoke. vinnie is too money hungry to just drop D*V.

[wileybill]

I saw a wrestling web site that said negotiations broke off because dtv wanted a bigger cut(big suprise) and that they would sue wwf.It also said dtv had 15% of all ppv sales.
IMHO 15% is a lot and a deal will be worked out

[LILROB]

WWF Off DirecTV After SummerSlam
Reported by: Fred Cook - August 17, 2001

WWF spokesperson Jayson Bernstein confirmed moments ago that the company's negotiations with DirecTV regarding a new distribution agreement are no longer in progress. Bernstein stressed that "until further notice," Sunday's SummerSlam event will be the last WWF pay-per-view available on DirecTV.

"Based on the numbers that DirecTV has given me, 15 percent of the WWF's pay-per-view business comes from DirecTV," John Higgins of Broadcasting and Cable Magazine said.

DirecTV's programming acquisitions vice president Michael Thorton told Higgins that there is an outstanding issue from the last deal in which DirecTV is seeking to recover money that was already paid to the WWF.

Apparently in regards to that issue, Bernstein said that, "DirecTV has chosen the litigation path instead of the negotiating path."

Higgins also reports that DirecTV officials want to sign a new deal and submit the money dispute to an arbitrator. Meanwhile, Higgins reports that the WWF is asking DirecTV to drop their financial claims before they continue negotiations on a new deal.

Earlier today, a cable industry source told told me that despite most analysts assuming that the WWF was looking to increase its pay-per-view percentage take, it was in fact DirecTV who was looking to up its percentage during the most recent negotiations

[ron111]

The followiong was taken from Cahners/TVInsite Web page.....

A dispute between World Wrestling Federation Entertainment and DirecTV is escalating with WWFE yanking PPV events away from the DBS service.


WWFE notified fans after August 12th’s 'SummerSlam' that events will no longer be available on DirecTV, and suggested they turn to EchoStar or cable to get access to September’s event.

The two companies have for months been working on renewing their existing distribution deal.

Though he wouldn’t provide details, DirecTV programming acquisitions vice president Michael Thorton said that there is an outstanding issue from the last deal in which DirecTV is seeking to recover money that’s already been paid.

DirecTV wants to sign a new deal and submit the dispute to an arbitrator.

Thorton said that WWFE want give up on the issue or DirecTV won’t get any more programs.

'They’ve said `we’re not going to go forward with you if your don’t drop it,’' Thorton said. 'Contrary to what they’re saying, they’re not negotiating.'

WWFE President Stuart Snyder said that 'It’s regrettable that DirecTV has resorted to litigation' and that in order to keep its fans happy the company will help and encourage them in finding 'alternate means to get our September event.'

That match, 'Unforgiven', is scheduled for Sept. 23.

[smokin420]

Originally posted by snowball
World Wrestling Federation (WWF) sucks anyway. No loss.

Fake and totally ridiculous!
well what about this guys,,,, maybe Vince lost his ass on what was known to be the XFL,,,,, now known as the ex-FL???????
well just a thaught but i agree wwf sucks and is bad for our youth 2,,,,,, just my peace of mind ....

[smokin420]

Originally posted by abraKAdabra
NO THIS IS THE LAST TIME U WILL SEE THE WWF PPV's on D*v.Vince nows that almost every cable Co. has steped up to digital cable,(and they don't make a black box for digital yet!!!)Or at least I don't know of one??Just think of all
the money he will generate!!!either U have cable or Dish #**
or U don't watch the PPV's. This will drop D*v stocks big time.U watch and see tomorrow!!!

black digital boxes are available !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jesse]

I agree about it not being the best for the youth, but it's still entertanment and if we as a whole enjoy it then it shouldn't be looked apon as such! And by the way, do you think that "THE SMOKE" is any better for the youth smokin420? I'm not a dumb***, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about so what are you talking about? You don't mind "Intercepting" D@#'s signal apparently so what do YOUR "youth" think, what do you think? "JJ"

[smokin420]

Originally posted by jesse
I agree about it not being the best for the youth, but it's still entertanment and if we as a whole enjoy it then it shouldn't be looked apon as such! And by the way, do you think that "THE SMOKE" is any better for the youth smokin420? I'm not a dumb***, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about so what are you talking about? You don't mind "Intercepting" D@#'s signal apparently so what do YOUR "youth" think, what do you think? "JJ"

First of all i think we all are initialed to our opinions. 2nd i never insinuated anything to our youth about 420, if u know what it means then great for u . No 1 is calling u a dumb***. 3rd there have been a lot of recent deaths related to wrestling moves performed by unskilled youth (trying to be badd asses), if u don’t know what im talking about then read up on some news and last but not least I never said that i liked or disliked wwf i just gave an opinion so plEasE back off the ***. Oh by the way I am also over the age of 18 and who ever said anything about Intercepting D@#'s get ur facts straight.......keep on Smokin

[jesse]

They're not that available unless you know someone VERY personally! As a matter of fact, you need to get your "stories" straight before you post such a thing again because I'm sure alot of people are getting tired of reading such s#$@ as you're posting about this subject! That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it!

[smokin420]

Originally posted by jesse
They're not that available unless you know someone VERY personally! As a matter of fact, you need to get your "stories" straight before you post such a thing again because I'm sure alot of people are getting tired of reading such s#$@ as you're posting about this subject! That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it!

Look Get off my A**, Yes all of us are intiatled to stick 2 our opinions but before u run ur mouth u get ur facts straight,,,YES THEY r available so why wont u get ur SH** straight, P***

[jesse]

O,K., so you have your points and I have mine so being that we ,re ultimatly in this together, I see your point of view! I'll be more understanding and, understanding if you can at the same time see my point of view?! Thanks for the arguement in advance, it helps relieve tension!

[jesse]

Hey man, you're always one post ahead, but I'm simply trying to say that I understand where you're coming from, but where in the he#@ are you seeing that there is a digital cable box? Everywhere I've looked there all still being tested and are still not sure the outcome?!

[jesse]

Please don't call me a P***, That really does'nt appeal to my liking! Thanks in advance!

[smokin420]

Originally posted by jesse
Hey man, you're always one post ahead, but I'm simply trying to say that I understand where you're coming from, but where in the he#@ are you seeing that there is a digital cable box? Everywhere I've looked there all still being tested and are still not sure the outcome?!

Hey man no harm done its all good but like u said, maybe i know someone VERY personally. maybe i dont ????????
go to yahoo and do a search on digital descramblers.... u might find some interesting facts on there [Edited by smokin420 on August 19th, 2001 at 10:22 PM]

[jesse]

Right on, well good fortune for you all the same, but I'm still waiting on the "Word" from the ones I'm familiar with to know that the "Digital Cable" is actually "On The Go", so, yes, it's all good all the same, but I'm still waiting for those in which I'm familiar with, in which I'm sure you understand!? Thanks for your input!

[antiecmer]

The digital cable boxes are available just not on the net(if they are I stand corrected) I now a couple of people who are using them but they are kept private because of legal issues. Even on of my electronics instructors has modded a regular one to open all channels!!

[orvil01]

Originally posted by jesse
You get in there and beat one of those big guys at their game and then you can say it's fake and or whatever, as far as it goes, I think Vince knows EXACTLY whats going on and he's the reason for it not being showed on D@#, after all, thats the only one they're not showing it on after this one so you go figure!!!

okay dude i think your getting into that ---- a little bit to much. its all staged sure the wrestling part could be a work out, its still all staged. come on now admit it.

[scabs]

I am gonna close this thread it has gotten way out of hand.
I appreceate the people that submitted info on why this is the last PPV.
I didnt open the thread to hear about everybodys opinion on wrestling. Just to get the facts.
Sorry to the mods for letting this get way out of hand.
Scabs