View Full Version : Time to fight back..
Daveee
December 9th, 2001, 12:05 PM
Where I live.. I can find that every other dish is DTV or Dish. Most of these guys are just users. I bet their dealer didnt tell them, or they dont know about what is going on in the courts. For some reason the liberals got into office again.. and they are ripping our country apart. They are letting big biz dictate to them how things should be done.
I wrote to my cities paper and printed out 20 copies of the three press releases I have found here and at innermatrix. I dropped them into the mail boxes just around my block. Im simply informing them of whats happening.. what can happen later and encourage them to write and voice their feelings. Also mentioned that they should inform their friends.
I have no idea if any of you think this is a good idea.. but its my way of trying to help.
1 CRAZY CANUCK
December 9th, 2001, 12:43 PM
WELCOME ABOARD!!! Daveee...
"ALL THE MORE THE BETTER!". You're on the right track; and, TTRK;GS2; and, RiseStar; plus, ALL of the "other" great leaders of this rapidly growing membership of Soldiers for the Freeedom of Choices; will be contacting you. Myself, I'm just a "stubborn" Limie [pure Canadian! LOL!]willing to help spread the wisdom of these "Fore-Fathers" to the masses. I'm just a "Foot-Soldier" willing to do what I can; because, the "Bosses" already have alot on their plates. - eh! Be glad to share the responsibilities for the "CAUSE!" with you, Daveee.
But, one thing for sure there is enough to be shared.
TestCardStore
December 9th, 2001, 01:43 PM
I have posted the article on the first page of my site and have finished writing to all Alberta papers and universitiy papers. I think everyone has to get on this. The more people send emails..etc.. the more willing a journalist will take it up. With even the estimated number of people watching US dss we make a formidable demographic that could certainly sway any election. We need to spread awareness!
CVU
December 9th, 2001, 04:26 PM
Wrote to Vancouver Sun paper........also emailed Sheila and Liberal Party. Keep doing it!
TestCardStore
December 9th, 2001, 04:59 PM
Someone should write up a blurb with all the details of how this will affect us..etc.. Then we could all cut it and email to the newspaper columnists in our are as well as any MP's in our provinces. I would, but won't pretend to know all the details that would pique a reporters interest to pursue a story. I will certainly help distribute it.
Leetch66
December 9th, 2001, 06:03 PM
Well I have been busy too ! I hit all my Provincial MP's and the Provincial papers and CBC local as well . Plus now I'm putting the info into every person's hands in the opposition that these MP's beat out in the last election . It's very enjoyable !
If we YELL loud and often enough we will be heard . I suggest you keep the comments clean to the media so that they won't consider us radicals . Let's keep it going everyone !
TestCardStore
December 9th, 2001, 09:42 PM
What is the most read paper in Canada, and what does anyone think it would take to get a full page? We united and donated towards the supreme court, certainly we could make enough for a full page add outlining a few key points of the Liberal gov'ts strategy to bring our freedom more in line with communist China.
1 CRAZY CANUCK
December 9th, 2001, 10:22 PM
Now you're talking! This would be a definite goal; even, short-term.
In my opinion, I would like to recommend that Legal-Rights Satellite Organization be the "platform" to address the public, on behalf of the membership. This way we avoid any potential "power struggles"; or, hurt feelings, for it would be an across the DSS network MEMBERSHIP, effort!
If so, than count "Crazy!" in. - eh! And, I think a new topic [thread] should be started; addressing membership's "voice", in this page "Awareness to the Public!"
This is my $.02 worth.
Itchy
December 9th, 2001, 10:52 PM
I too have been writing my A$$ off this weekend, I fired off letters to Sheila, Jean Crouton, all the Liberal MPs in my province and just finished a series of emails to Stockwell and the rest of the Alliance members in Manitoba. Copps' comments are outragous, can you imagine if a member of the Senate or House of Representatives in the US made comments such as this before the release of a Supreme Court decision? This woman has stuck her foot in that fly trap of hers too often, I must say I will be curious to hear Tobin's reply to her statement's, I mean this guy plans on running for Prime Minister next election and if the public outcry is near what I hope it will be, I think he will want to separate himself for her on this.
Everyone keep this up, this is the easiest thing we have ever had to do in the satellite community, just write a letter! You need emails for any member of Parlaiment, let me know here or any of the other posts I have written on, I will get them for you in a snap.
:K
gunsmoke2
December 10th, 2001, 12:07 AM
Its time to think about a PR firm for press releases except we would need to ask for Donations again.
GS2
To The Real King!!
December 10th, 2001, 03:43 AM
Hi Everyone,
I am not sure how many of you have seen the newspaper article below and what our Minister Shiela Copps thinks of Democracy as it concerns the Satellite Community in Canada but I hope it makes our collective blood boil. This totally undemocratic stance makes MOCKERY of the fact that the satellite community has raised a LOT of money and has done the right thing in having confidence in our Supreme Court. I believe that this article will greatly offend the Supreme Court and may even make them rule quickly in this matter. I assure everyone that this will NOT affect them negatively and that it will only serve to piss them off, liberals included, in that a minister of the Government is depreciating the role of the RULE of law in Canada.
Overall this cannot be bad for us and if we make use of it, by complaining to all our politicos and the press, then it could BENEFIT us bigtime.
The important thing here is that we DO NOT let this die on the vine. I am asking every ONE of YOU to take this letter, place your name on it and customize it slightly to fit YOUR SITUATION (as a dealer, viewer or whatever) and E-mail it to ALL of Canada's politicians. I have posted lists of these for ease of E-mailing at the following addresses.
For those who are unsure of HOW to do a MASS MAILING all you have to do is CUT and PASTE around 50 names at a time into the BCC header on your E-mail and address it to someone, preferably the Prime Minister.
If you Don't have a BCC then just Cut and Paste them into the normal ADDRESS HEADER or TO: in the E-mail. As long as they are separated by Commas "," then the letter will be sent to all the people whose addresses you have included. It may take 5 or 10 letters to get them out to everyone on the lists.
NEVER EVER has something been so VERY IMPORTANT and I implore and BEG you all to take a half-hour of your time and DO THIS. It is really critical and will be a tremendous opportunity missed to catch a MP making a very undemocratic statement and do NOTHING. This is MORE important than ANY DONATION and it does NOT cost you a single penny. All it takes is a few moments of your time. I have spent some 20 hours making up these mailing lists so that all you need to do is Cut and Paste so please don't let this chance pass. We have been screwed continuously by the government on this issue, PLEASE DO NOT LET it HAPPEN AGAIN.
Your letters, coming from many sources, will open a LOT of EYES and scare people into realizing that their support will diminish by statements like this. I have spent half the day sending this to the media and PRESS all across Canada and to all politicians but while the press need only be told ONCE, the more often the politicians get this from different people the MORE they are FORCED to PAY ATTENTION.
Please folks, take the time and DO IT.
The letter is also available here as are all the Mail lists.
http://www.Legal-rights.org/lettrepost.html
http://www.Legal-rights.org/Documents/liberals.html
http://www.Legal-rights.org/pclist.html
http://www.Legal-rights.org/alliance.html
Note: There is a problem with the legal-rights website tonight that prevents me uploading but this should NOT be the case by tomorrow morning :)
Dear Sirs or Madam,
The following is an article from the National Post on December 8, 2001. This comes only days after the Supreme Court of Canada heard the appeal of Bell Expressvu v. Can-Am which concerns all Canadians. I am one of those affected by this forthcoming decision and live under the rule of law in Canada.
How can a Minister of the Government disregard our Supreme Court so openly when the “rule of law in“ Canada requires just the opposite stance?
This stance clearly puts the system of justice in Canada into disrepute and I will work with many other Canadians to make this point with the public and point out that the citizens last recourse between the Government and the law is now non-existent due to the liberal government stance. It is also an affront to other members of parliament who may not act in such an un-democratic and autocratic manner. This is a clear example of how democracy can fail when one party has such tremendous electoral power and in view of this many Canadians may well change their political allegiance after this point is made.
Mr. Richard Rex, the owner of Ca-Am now finds that he has been dragged through the entire justice system in Canada, first in the B.C. Superior (supreme) courts where he won, then to the B.C. Appeals court where he won again, all at great cost and difficulty to be then appealed to the Supreme Court of Canada. Now only 4 days after presenting his case there at a cost of approaching $100,000.00, he is told that the law in Canada is meaningless and this Minister Shiela Copps as well as Mr. Brian Tobin will decide against him REGARDLESS of what the Supreme Court of Canada rules. This in support of one of Canada’s richest communications companies who obtained that position by operating a Government mandated monopoly phone company for many years in this country. This is an outrage and an affront to all of us who live under the “rule of law” and the system by which Canadians have lived throughout our history.
I urge you to take action and bring this to the fore and to ensure that Canadians have the protection conferred on them by our parliament and which we have always had the comfort of. Rejecting our law in support of a commercial interest like Bell Expressvu can encourage Canadians to believe that there is no law in Canada and that only MONEY counts and possibly act accordingly. That is a Canada that could sink into anarchy giving up all that our forefathers have fought for over the last 100 years or more.
Yours truly,
YOUR NAME HERE
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Ottawa will dog grey-market satellite firms
Ian Jack
Financial Post
December 8, 2001
OTTAWA - The federal government will continue efforts to block grey-market satellite distributors from doing business in Canada regardless of a Supreme Court of Canada decision expected by next spring, sources say.
Ottawa is considering issuing a public statement before Christmas backing Bell ExpressVu and other licensed Canadian operators, and will change the legislation governing satellite distribution if the Supreme Court rules in favour of a small company that sells direct-to-home decoders that receive U.S. signals, sources said.
Sheila Copps, the Heritage Minister, told a Canadian industry group this week she will ensure the government's interpretation of the Radiocommunications Act, which is that it bans grey market satellite distribution, is upheld regardless of the court ruling.
She told the group she wants to issue a statement jointly with Brian Tobin, the Industry Minister, in the coming weeks.
Mr. Tobin would be prepared to sign off on such a statement, a source said.
The government's signaling of its intention is a blow to Can-Am Satellites of Maple Ridge, B.C., and other grey marketers. Can-Am has won two cases in provincial appeal courts, arguing the issue is freedom of expression and unfettered access to public airwaves. Both courts concluded it does not violate the Act, as written, to sell decoders in Canada.
ijack@nationalpost.com
Cut and paste the parts between the lines and then paste all the names in the mail lists into the BSS header if you have one or into the TO: normal e-mail address space if you don't. Either will send the letter but using the BCC field will NOT make it look like a chain letter or SPAM. Each one is addressed individually when its in the BCC as though they were sent a CARBON COPY. BCC means BLIND Carbon Copy because they do NOT see who you sent it to, just the adressee (the PM) and them. The PM's E-mail address is:
"Mr.Jean Chrétien"<pm@pm.gc.ca>
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M_DeRuKe
December 11th, 2001, 08:40 PM
GS2, have you gotten a rough idea of how much a PR firm wants? Any chance of tv viewers in the PR industry putting forth a plan to spreaad the word in the best fashion?
Mr. Richard Rex, the owner of Ca-Am now finds
Edit for Can-Am Satellites .
I hope Tobin rethinks signing this, he's a Newfie so I thought he would be my choice as the next PM, but I could NOT vote for a man who backs Sheila on this..
1 CRAZY CANUCK
December 11th, 2001, 09:03 PM
GS2 has anybody gotten intouch with you about working on a "full page" campaign blitz? I'd have no problem going after donations, if we had an idea of what it would cost and an idea of what this FREEDOM "advisory" will say for the members as well as the public's interest!
TestCardStore
December 13th, 2001, 09:09 AM
LETS NOT LET THIS DIE! TestCardStore will open this up with a 1000$us donation to get newspaper ads rolling and challenges other dealers to do the same. These relatively don't cost much, and even donations by individuals will have a huge impact. We need to work fast before the statement by Copps and Tobin is released laced with their fine doublespeak. We need someone to be trusted to be the gatherer of funds, and the spokesperson for the media when they come calling. We need something straighforward in common terms that every Joe in Canada can read and understand. I think emailing is a good idea, but after a while it will just become an irritant, even to someone sympathetic, to come in to work and have your mailbox full of the same thing. A huge full or half page ad in a MAJOR paper is a story! What reporter would not jump at the opportunity to write about such a huge grass roots movement? This would be a serious embarassment to Copps and Tobin if he is 'prepared to sign off' on her statement if this comes out beforehand.
TrailerTrash
December 13th, 2001, 09:27 AM
Crazy I got a bottle of crown royal sitting here that needs some tending too. Where are you when I need you most? :gg Nice too see you rallying the troops up. Keep up the great work CC.
1 CRAZY CANUCK
December 13th, 2001, 10:01 AM
Thanks! For your offer TrailerTrash, I'll meet you back at the park. he! he!
TestCardStore opens it with a major donation! Seriously, we know it's the Holiday Seasons for the majority of the "Faiths!". So, It could mean "nickel and diming" for a few bucks; that being the lowest scenario. Tens; Twenties?? Heck they WORK! Imagine what 100 Fives can add up to; and, how quickly they can be gathered? Hmmmmm!
So, now where do we direct these donations to- "IN TRUST OF :" [again, Legal-Rights gets my vote; but, that's up to TTRK and you, the members.]
Next biggie is who [or, whom?] shall be this awesome task of "writing; editing; and, finishing" this MASTER-PEICE.
There is alot of great "authors" among us who have a 'nak' of keep it all in LAYMAN [lazy-man] terms!
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